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Re: Random Thought Thread
[quote name='peg182'][quote name='huevonkiller'][quote name='BG7 Lavigne'][quote name='The Legend']
Just a quick question, me and my friends were arguing about it at lunch.</p>
If Kobe had the same exact Cavs team last year, in last year's finals. Could Kobe have won 1 game unlike LeBron? IMO, yes, He would probably score 60+, just to win one game by himself. </p>
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He could have probably won one game in the finals, but he wouldn't win 50 games in the regular season like Lebron did.</p> [/QUOTE]
And how did you come to this conclusion? Kobe was the more productive offensive player last year, LeBron regressed.</p> [/QUOTE]
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that's tough to debate. kobe and lebron are two pretty different players. who knows if kobe would have gelled with the other cavs playrs, and who knows how cleveland's team defense would have been with kobe there instead of lebron.</p>
also, lebron is a better rebounder, and racks up more assists, and his 6-8 250 lb frame is very different from kobe, and gives him much more versatility...so the whole cleveland gameplan would've probably been different with kobe there instead.</p>
also, kobe isn't that good vs. the nets(20 ppg, 32% fg, but 10.5 apg in 2 games, about 40mpg) or detroit(18.5 ppg, 42% fg in 2 games, about 40 mpg), so who knows if he would've even made it past either of them.</p>
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Well Quadruple poster, what are you trying to say about defense? The only thing I learned about you in your last post is that you must have not seen the Lakers last year. LeBron isn't a better defender than Kobe, nor was he the reason they were fourth in defensive efficiency.</p>
You're talking about a small sample size of games, don't even bring up pointless information like that. </p>
Kobe excels in the more important categories in offense. Go to wikipedia.org and look up PER. Kobe's Rebound rate is comparable enough to LeBron's, and Bryant is an underrated passer. Kobe blew away LeBron last year in efficiency despite being injured the first half of the season. He's easily the more valuable offensive player.</p>
LeBron- 24.5 PER</p>
Kobe- 26.1 PER</p><pre>*A Year For the Ages: 35.0*Runaway MVP Candidate: 30.0*Strong MVP Candidate: 27.5*Weak MVP Candidate: 25.0*Bona fide All-Star: 22.5*Borderline All-Star: 20.0*Solid 2nd option: 18.0*3rd Banana: 16.5*Pretty good player: 15.0*In the rotation: 13.0*Scrounging for minutes: 11.0*Definitely renting: 9.0*On next plane to Yakima: 5.0</pre>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Efficiency_Rating</p>
PER is the best fashion to measure overall offensive output. </p>
[quote name='peg182'][quote name='huevonkiller'][quote name='BG7 Lavigne'][quote name='The Legend']
Just a quick question, me and my friends were arguing about it at lunch.</p>
If Kobe had the same exact Cavs team last year, in last year's finals. Could Kobe have won 1 game unlike LeBron? IMO, yes, He would probably score 60+, just to win one game by himself. </p>
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He could have probably won one game in the finals, but he wouldn't win 50 games in the regular season like Lebron did.</p> [/QUOTE]
And how did you come to this conclusion? Kobe was the more productive offensive player last year, LeBron regressed.</p> [/QUOTE]
</p>
that's tough to debate. kobe and lebron are two pretty different players. who knows if kobe would have gelled with the other cavs playrs, and who knows how cleveland's team defense would have been with kobe there instead of lebron.</p>
also, lebron is a better rebounder, and racks up more assists, and his 6-8 250 lb frame is very different from kobe, and gives him much more versatility...so the whole cleveland gameplan would've probably been different with kobe there instead.</p>
also, kobe isn't that good vs. the nets(20 ppg, 32% fg, but 10.5 apg in 2 games, about 40mpg) or detroit(18.5 ppg, 42% fg in 2 games, about 40 mpg), so who knows if he would've even made it past either of them.</p>
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Well Quadruple poster, what are you trying to say about defense? The only thing I learned about you in your last post is that you must have not seen the Lakers last year. LeBron isn't a better defender than Kobe, nor was he the reason they were fourth in defensive efficiency.</p>
You're talking about a small sample size of games, don't even bring up pointless information like that. </p>
Kobe excels in the more important categories in offense. Go to wikipedia.org and look up PER. Kobe's Rebound rate is comparable enough to LeBron's, and Bryant is an underrated passer. Kobe blew away LeBron last year in efficiency despite being injured the first half of the season. He's easily the more valuable offensive player.</p>
LeBron- 24.5 PER</p>
Kobe- 26.1 PER</p><pre>*A Year For the Ages: 35.0*Runaway MVP Candidate: 30.0*Strong MVP Candidate: 27.5*Weak MVP Candidate: 25.0*Bona fide All-Star: 22.5*Borderline All-Star: 20.0*Solid 2nd option: 18.0*3rd Banana: 16.5*Pretty good player: 15.0*In the rotation: 13.0*Scrounging for minutes: 11.0*Definitely renting: 9.0*On next plane to Yakima: 5.0</pre>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Efficiency_Rating</p>
PER is the best fashion to measure overall offensive output. </p>
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