Rangers at flyers

[mrmel29]

If they play as listless as last night they will not only get beat bad on the scoreboard but they'll get physically manhandled all over the ice while Mr. bubblegum blows more bubbles.

 

[theProdigy223]

In my opinion it's as close to a must-win as you can have in January. Maybe not a must-win, but must-play-well. I dont want to get smacked again, and then have Columbus dance on our grave this weekend as they set the record.

 

[Ranger71]

I don't understand about the not prepared statement..i think it was more a lack of effort and sluggishness. X and Os i think they know what they have to do game to game.

 

[Ranger71]

The New York Flatfoots

 

[Stepupstepan]

I thought they played a good road period. 8.5 milllion usually shows up against the flygirls. He played well. It's amazing that they haven't had a fully healthy squad all year and we are already in January.

 

[RangersFan]

The Rangers need to get healthy...period.

You can play for small stretches missing players and say next man up, but when you go WEEKS without 3 of your top 7 or 8 forwards you will feel that.

Ziban has missed 6 weeks and 22 games already.
Buch has missed 7 weeks and 31 games already.
Nash has played 3 games in a month and has missed 11 games.

You cannot overcome that over the long haul. Need to start getting these guys back. And I expect Nash back for CBJ or worst case after the bye week. Sounds like Buch will be back after the bye week, worst case misses 2 or 3 more games. And Ziban maybe misses 4 or 5 more games overall with the bye week after the CBJ game factored in. So getting close upfront.

Now we have Staal out on D, and they already said out against CBJ, so who knows. AV said back after the break, so maybe only 2 games, but we'll see.

 

[Ranger71]

If they can get 3 pts out of these next 2 that would be good. If Buch isn't back right after the week off then i don't know what they're doing with him.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Hold on to the puck for way too long when they have a chance to shoot. The only team that does this on the consistent basis. Pirri is pretty useless at this point. Other than that, they've played a good road game so far.

 

[mrmel29]

Kreids somehow outfights 2 flyers and manages to beat the goalie for number 16 and more importantly a 2-0 lead

 

[Messiah717]

Good bounce back win after last night's disaster. Maybe it was just me but watching on NBC you would've thought they were the Flyers home announcers.

 

[Lillie]

Nice win for the Rangers. It's good to see the Offense stepping up. Off to watch Golden State after the Knicks lose yet again for their 6th straight. Why do I even bother???

 

[RangersFan]

NBC is a joke. Very few of their people have any love for the Rangers. Tough when NBC is the network for the NHL. Hard to listen to.

Very good win. Couldn't lose both tonight and at CBJ. Good to get these points and bounce back after a throw out no effort game against the Sabres. Few days off and tough CBJ game. Then a nice break and maybe some more health.

 

[Ranger71]

Hopefully Puempel can get over the constant concussion issues, as I think he's a very useful piece. I have a feeling it may dog him the rest of season.

 

[Stepupstepan]

You thought it was a funeral the way the whole NBC crew sounded after it became 4:1 God forbid, they play the pens. It will be way worse if it is even possible.

 

[kreidertime]

Buchnevich out this many games is absurd. I think the team basically realized he wasn't physically ready for the NHL yet. Either way. Good win. Team needs to commit to bringing Graves up now and get him as much experience as possible.

 

[theProdigy223]

Buchnevich out this many games is absurd. I think the team basically realized he wasn't physically ready for the NHL yet. Either way. Good win. Team needs to commit to bringing Graves up now and get him as much experience as possible.

Didn't I read he ended up having a disc issue? Hopefully it was bulging and not herniated, but either way those are not good injuries at all for an athlete. They are like concussions in that you can feel fine, push it on the ice, and then wake up the next day almost incapacitated. The core strengthening around that is more accurately described as physical therapy exercises to push the disc back in so it stops pressing on nerves. Like I said, if it was bulging and not herniated he should be ok when he gets back and I'm not surprised it took this long. If it was herniated, one big hit and he's going to the operating table and we'll see him next year.

 

[theProdigy223]

Clayton Kershaw was able to come back from a disc injury with no surgery after about 6 weeks last season, but obviously the physical demands on a pitcher are much different than those on a hockey player.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Lol I know wtf Happened with Buch. I've seen young kids come in and play. This guy was like a pencil

 

[kreidertime]

Said it from the day I saw that photo of him. He was not nearly ready physically to play in the NHL. So, better off he plays less until he puts on at least 25 to 30 pounds of muscle which is going to take a long time to do. Not sure why Graves hasn't been called up. They need to get him up here. I have zero confidence in Girardi or Klein for the playoffs. None whatsoever.

 

[theProdigy223]

He can put on all the muscle he wants, until they can get the disc off the nerve he's not going to be able to do anything. Ironically when you have that type of injury it prevents you from moving any of the heavy weight you need to add significant muscle. And there is no way he is adding 25 pounds of muscle. You can give him 3 years he won't add that unless you start pumping him full of steroids.

 

[kreidertime]

Not sure about that Prod. A lot of these kids in Russia eat like crap and don't even work out. They just care about scoring and skating. Different game there. It was obvious the kid never lifted a weight in his life. You can put on quite a bit of muscle as a 18 year old over 2-3 years if you have never trained properly before and your metabolism just doesn't burn weight. McIlrath was 212 when he was drafted. Now he's 236. It all depends just how little weight training you have done. Buchnevich obviously hasn't done any.

 

[theProdigy223]

Not sure about that Prod. A lot of these kids in Russia eat like crap and don't even work out. They just care about scoring and skating. Different game there. It was obvious the kid never lifted a weight in his life. You can put on quite a bit of muscle as a 18 year old over 2-3 years if you have never trained properly before and your metabolism just doesn't burn weight. McIlrath was 212 when he was drafted. Now he's 236. It all depends just how little weight training you have done. Buchnevich obviously hasn't done any.

Right, don't get me wrong I agree he can definitely bulk up and put on some weight. But 25 to 30 pounds of pure muscle is unrealistic. McIlrath was drafted as an 18 year old. A teenager. And in 6 years he's up 22 pounds, which I assure you is not all muscle. Buch will be 22 soon. He trained in North America the past few summers under the watch of Rangers coaches. He's not a complete novice in that area. He does need to get bigger and stronger, but the main focus should be not irritating that disc injury which may mean no heavy weights until the offseason. From my experience he's probably doing a ton of yoga poses, medicine ball exercises and body weight stuff. Anything more and that disc could shoot out, and then he's done for the year. Subban is dealing with one now and he's been held off the ice for a few weeks now.

 

[cagedlion]

NBC is a joke. Very few of their people have any love for the Rangers. Tough when NBC is the network for the NHL. Hard to listen to.

Very good win. Couldn't lose both tonight and at CBJ. Good to get these points and bounce back after a throw out no effort game against the Sabres. Few days off and tough CBJ game. Then a nice break and maybe some more health.

What the New York area got was the Flyers sportscasters doing the game. Of course, there was a definite slant
to their broadcast. Typical Ranger negativity.......that seems to be NBCSN across the board.
They prefer "name players" teams............and we all know which teams those are!

 

[Stepupstepan]

This is just a speculation on my part. Sounds like it is a chronic back issue with Buch. He must've had this issue in Russia at some point and did not tell the rangers medical staff. Probably thought that it is no big deal and it would go away on its own. Rangers and these Russian prospects. They never have any luck with them.

 

[theProdigy223]

This is just a speculation on my part. Sounds like it is a chronic back issue with Buch. He must've had this issue in Russia at some point and did not tell the rangers medical staff. Probably thought that it is no big deal and it would go away on its own. Rangers and these Russian prospects. They never have any luck with them.

Would not surprise me at all. Regardless of when it started I'm sure that given his slight frame and the rigors of the NHL it got worse and worse to the point that he had to shut it down. Let's just hope he avoids the surgery because it's a difficult one.

 

[theProdigy223]

Buch in a regular jersey at practice today, and was just assigned to the Pack for a conditioning stint. He'll probably stay down there through the bye week next week, and hopefully be ready to rock on Jan 13 along with Rick Nash.

Finally some good news.

 

[Messiah717]

Genetics play a big role as well. Some just can't add muscle to that degree. Body builders that do for example are usually not do so naturally.