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As some posters said here Talbot is bad with rebounds. You really appreciate how good Hank is with rebound control when you look at some of these other goalies.
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No doubt that is his biggest issue. I said it before he took over for Hank. As he tries to become a # 1 somewhere after next season, that needs to be his focus...improve rebound control. Can't ever be a big starter if he doesn't improve his rebound control.
His numbers have not been good, BUT he is winning games. Sure we are scoring a lot to help him win those games, but he has also made a lot of big timely saves. Winning is all that matters, so I tip my cap to him for that and for making big saves when needed.
I was concerned about him once it was announced Hank would be out, and that concern has been right on numbers wise (I thought 3 gaa +/- and .900 sv% +/- and the numbers have been worse actually). But since we are winning games the concern has turned out to not be a huge issue. Get points and move on, and he is giving us a chance to do that. I also think the O has stepped up knowing they need more without Hank, and we have played a few lesser teams which helps as well.
Overall Cam is winning, so that is good for us and him.
His numbers have not been good, BUT he is winning games. Sure we are scoring a lot to help him win those games, but he has also made a lot of big timely saves. Winning is all that matters, so I tip my cap to him for that and for making big saves when needed.
I was concerned about him once it was announced Hank would be out, and that concern has been right on numbers wise (I thought 3 gaa +/- and .900 sv% +/- and the numbers have been worse actually). But since we are winning games the concern has turned out to not be a huge issue. Get points and move on, and he is giving us a chance to do that. I also think the O has stepped up knowing they need more without Hank, and we have played a few lesser teams which helps as well.
Overall Cam is winning, so that is good for us and him.
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I like Cam but I don't see him as more than a backup.
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I tend to agree, but it is not a finished book yet. He can improve still. That is why he resigned for next year, he knows he's not ready yet.
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wasn't that Al Montoya's issue as well?
Glad we got that monkey off our back with a huge comeback win. the non call could have gone either way....I think the rangers did get a way with things that would have been called if they played say the Pens...everyone in the world knows if that was cindy skating over the blue line and fell it would have been a double major spear lol....
with all the feel good...lets remember they were two inches from tying the game in the final seconds...
Glad we got that monkey off our back with a huge comeback win. the non call could have gone either way....I think the rangers did get a way with things that would have been called if they played say the Pens...everyone in the world knows if that was cindy skating over the blue line and fell it would have been a double major spear lol....
with all the feel good...lets remember they were two inches from tying the game in the final seconds...
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Al, Josh Bailey thought he had the tying goal in the last seconds.
So did I. The whole right side of the net was open.
Both goalies were erratic. Talbot, known to be a good puck handler,
really needs to rethink his game. Was giving the puck up. Needs to
play through and hold on to the puck. Isles and other big teams
have too much savvy not to pounce on those big rebounds.
So did I. The whole right side of the net was open.
Both goalies were erratic. Talbot, known to be a good puck handler,
really needs to rethink his game. Was giving the puck up. Needs to
play through and hold on to the puck. Isles and other big teams
have too much savvy not to pounce on those big rebounds.
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Cam had the best numbers among rookie goalies last year and now in his sophomore year he gets unexpectedly thrust into the starting spot battling for first in the Metro and goes 5-1-1 but I guess the jury remains out for some. Winning percentage trumps all in this situation unless you're looking to point out that a backup goalie puts up worse numbers that one of the best in the world. That was the best NHL game of the season so far. The Islanders are probably one of the few teams that AV has to dress Glass (not that he needs an excuse).
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The jury for sure still remains out on him. His sv% and gaa are both below average for a starter.
Not sure where you are coming from here panzer, or what you are missing. We are speaking of Cam AS A STARTER. He is starting for us right now. We have already clearly established, and all acknowledged, he is a very good backup goalie. We are talking about him as a starter bro. And not in comparison to Hank, but to other starters.
He has a better than .900 sv% 1 out of 7 games. He has allowed 3 goals or more in 5 of the 7 games. Those are real numbers.
Like I said earlier, 100% the bottom line is he's 5-1-1 in his 7 starts and he has made some big saves when needed, and has kept us in games as well. So tip of the cap like I said earlier, and good for him and us. BUT if you cannot see that he has allowed MANY goals he should have stopped in 7 games, and you cannot understand that AS A STARTER the jury is still out, I am just not sure what to say bro.
If you are basing your comments off of him as a backup, we agree. But as a starter, which he is for us right now and what we are dicussing for him and his future, the jury 100% is still out.
And that is not a knock on him at all. He is young and growing. As I said the book is not fully written yet on Cam. He has plenty of time to grow and get better. But he is not ready to be a good starting goalie in the NHL right now. May change over the course of the next few weeks, but right now that's the way it is.
No one is saying he can't or won't get to that level, but he isn't there now.
Not sure where you are coming from here panzer, or what you are missing. We are speaking of Cam AS A STARTER. He is starting for us right now. We have already clearly established, and all acknowledged, he is a very good backup goalie. We are talking about him as a starter bro. And not in comparison to Hank, but to other starters.
He has a better than .900 sv% 1 out of 7 games. He has allowed 3 goals or more in 5 of the 7 games. Those are real numbers.
Like I said earlier, 100% the bottom line is he's 5-1-1 in his 7 starts and he has made some big saves when needed, and has kept us in games as well. So tip of the cap like I said earlier, and good for him and us. BUT if you cannot see that he has allowed MANY goals he should have stopped in 7 games, and you cannot understand that AS A STARTER the jury is still out, I am just not sure what to say bro.
If you are basing your comments off of him as a backup, we agree. But as a starter, which he is for us right now and what we are dicussing for him and his future, the jury 100% is still out.
And that is not a knock on him at all. He is young and growing. As I said the book is not fully written yet on Cam. He has plenty of time to grow and get better. But he is not ready to be a good starting goalie in the NHL right now. May change over the course of the next few weeks, but right now that's the way it is.
No one is saying he can't or won't get to that level, but he isn't there now.
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I agree, Talbot is a very good backup at this point. He must fix that rebound control if he wants to be a starter.
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round and round......
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We go...where we stop no one knows...
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He likes to use the pads but leaves to many chances off his pads right in front of him.
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One thing I noticed, he drops a lot of pucks out of his glove. Seems to struggle catching pucks. Weird to me.
