Rank our players

[wizenheimer]

It's like people take him for granted.

no they don't...they just realize that CJ's entire resume means more than some cherry-picked games. And they also realize that CJ's offense is offset by how much he gives away on the other end of the floor

 

[illmatic99]

no they don't...they just realize that CJ's entire resume means more than some cherry-picked games. And they also realize that CJ's offense is offset by how much he gives away on the other end of the floor

Fucking Gary Trent is not a better player than CJ. People are actually saying this. Gimme a break. It's not cherry picked games. His playoff stats are on par or better than Dame's in his career depending on the year.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Fucking Gary Trent is not a better player than CJ. People are actually saying this. Gimme a break. It's not cherry picked games. His playoff stats are on par or better than Dame's in his career.

Yea, the gary trent hype is unreal....calm down

 

[illmatic99]

Yea, the gary trent hype is unreal....calm down

And he's a far bigger black hole than CJ. Dude never ever makes the extra pass. I love Gary, but he's got a ways to go before he gets to CJ's level.

 

[wizenheimer]

Fucking Gary Trent is not a better player than CJ. People are actually saying this. Gimme a break. It's not cherry picked games. His playoff stats are on par or better than Dame's in his career depending on the year.

I didn't say it

 

[illmatic99]

last year's team ranking in various 'advanced' categories:

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maybe, 2018-19 is more appropriate because Portland had a much deeper bench that season than last season:

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I didn't do rebounding or assist rates because those vary so much positionally

I'd put Nurkic ahead of CJ as both a better player and a more valuable player. It's not close either, IMO. Covington, Trent, & Jones would follow with Hood being the biggest question mark

Gee I wonder why Whiteside got only a minimum from Sac, and got discarded like a piece of trash. He's apparently our 2nd best player according to a lot of these numbers.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'm not a fan of CJ so it pains me to say hes #2, but he is

Tier#1
Dame

Tier#2
CJ
Nurk

Tier#3
Covington
Hood

Tier#4
Melo
Collins
Jones
Trent Jr

Tier#5
Kanter
Giles
Simons

Tier#6
Little
Elleby

So from last years team we added two Tier3 players and swapped Jones w/Whiteside. Good improvement i suppose.

Collins in tier 4, ahead of Kanter? Not seeing how anything he's done has earned him that...

 

[Natebishop3]

I can’t believe people are putting Collins above Kanter. Did you guys forget what he did for us in the OKC series?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

You people crack me up ranking Melo so low..... you understand he is starting this season and will be our 3rd leading scorer. I know there are other aspects, but these asshats have him as the 11th or 12th best player, C'Mon FAMS!

Apparently, you're giving up on the Blazers making the playoffs.....

 

[tester551]

You apparently missed my point.

You didn't explain your point very well...

Fucking Gary Trent is not a better player than CJ. People are actually saying this. Gimme a break. It's not cherry picked games. His playoff stats are on par or better than Dame's in his career depending on the year.

I'm not sure that I've seen a single person here rank Trent above CJ in importance.

The big debate us if CJ is our 2nd, 3rd, or 4th most valuable player on this team.

The biggest takeaway is that its not clear cut. There are some valid arguments (some more than others) as why he might be ranked at any if those spots

 

[Wizard Mentor]

If the opposing team does not have a beefy center, then it's not obvious that
"Can't Play Kanter" is not correct....

Which is why I find it useful to think of Kanter/Giles as one player:
Opponent has a BIG => Kanter, opponent plays a smaller big=>Giles

 

[Big Dog]

You didn't explain your point very well...

I'm not sure that I've seen a single person here rank Trent above CJ in importance.

The big debate us if CJ is our 2nd, 3rd, or 4th most valuable player on this team.

The biggest takeaway is that its not clear cut. There are some valid arguments (some more than others) as why he might be ranked at any if those spots

Well, it wasn't directed to you.

 

[tester551]

You people crack me up ranking Melo so low..... you understand he is starting this season and will be our 3rd leading scorer. I know there are other aspects, but these asshats have him as the 11th or 12th best player, C'Mon FAMS!

Melo is a net negative player at this point in his career.

He may score a lot, but he takes a lot of possession to do so & is inefficient. He also gives up more on D than he produces on O. Being the 10-12th best player is about right for him.