Rebounding

[Boob-No-More]

^^^^I like that much better. Where does Aminu and Plumlee rank on that list?

If you only include players that have played enough to qualify for the per game rebounding leader board, Plumlee is 50th in the league in TRB at 15.1. Aminu hasn't played enough to qualify (yet), but if he had, he'd be tied for 55th at TRB = 14.1.

All three of our starting front court players are below average rebounders for their positions. Harkless is 140th in the league in TRB% at 9.1 That's never a good thing.

BNM

 

[blue9]

All three of our starting front court players are below average rebounders for their positions. Harkless is 140th in the league in TRB% at 9.1 That's never a good thing.

Seems to be similar to Nic. Harkless is pretty much playing the same role (on both Off/Def), minus the ball-handling. I suspect Terry's "Spread 'Em" philosophy has a lot to do with our awful rebounding numbers. When 95% of the offense takes place outside of the 3-point arc guys aren't really in position to get rebounds on all those low-percentage jumpers we take.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Seems to be similar to Nic. Harkless is pretty much playing the same role (on both Off/Def), minus the ball-handling. I suspect Terry's "Spread 'Em" philosophy has a lot to do with our awful rebounding numbers. When 95% of the offense takes place outside of the 3-point arc guys aren't really in position to get rebounds on all those low-percentage jumpers we take.

Less than 25% of all rebounds league wide are offensive rebounds. So, the abundance of 3-pointers in Srotts' offense, and resulting long rebounds would help explain why Plumlee and Aminu have such low ORB% numbers, it does not help explain why Mo is such a weak defensive rebounder.

And you can't really blame the increased emphasis on the 3-point shot in general. Mo is a weak defensive rebounder relative to his SF peers.

BNM

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

There are several things about Monre's advanced stats that surprised me, such as his Drtg of just 102, his defensive win shares of 2.8, and his defensive box +/- of +2.2 (much higher than his OBPM of just 0.6).

The stats suggest that he's actually not a net negative defensively like the conventional wisdom says he is.

82games.com shows nothing but good things for Monroe as well. Why do people hate him so much again?

Unfortunately he has improved so much this year that he is probably not available.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Unfortunately he has improved so much this year that he is probably not available.

I not so sure on that. He still gets (relatively) little minutes for the Bucks. They are a deep team though I suppose...

 

[Minstrel]

I not so sure on that. He still gets (relatively) little minutes for the Bucks. They are a deep team though I suppose...

He doesn't fit their offensive style, so they bring him off the bench to play in the low post against reserves. He's pretty good for them in that role--I'm sure he's available, but likely not cheap.

 

[Boob-No-More]

There are several things about Monre's advanced stats that surprised me, such as his Drtg of just 102, his defensive win shares of 2.8, and his defensive box +/- of +2.2 (much higher than his OBPM of just 0.6).

The stats suggest that he's actually not a net negative defensively like the conventional wisdom says he is.

82games.com shows nothing but good things for Monroe as well. Why do people hate him so much again?

Yeah, I'm surprised how good his stats look at 82games.com - both his individual production (outscoring his opponent by 7.5 PTS/48) and his positive impact on his team's performance (+9.7 PTS/48) when he's on the court.

I get that it's a relatively small, but not insignificant, sample size and it's come mostly against other teams' second units, but it's hard to find fault with the guy's production. Enes Kanter flat out got robbed in 6th Man of the Year voting last season. He should have won it. Monroe's numbers aren't quite as good as Kanter's, but if he keeps this up the guy at least deserves to get a few 3rd place votes.

OK, he wouldn't likely produce at the same rate as a starter playing a bigger role, but as long as he has a positive net positive impact, that would be an improvement.

So, what are the red flags? Attitude? Selfish player? Can opt out, so might be a half season rental? Any others?

BNM

 

[BBert]

I am surprised by Greg Monroe's standing on those lists. I guess Rebounding doesn't mean Defense though. Lol

It doesn't. It usually means boxing out. Which also helps your team's other rebounders if done unselfishly. I do consider rebounding a certain type of defense though. As in, the other team doesn't get the ball back with another shot to score. Rebounding is so important. Of course, hard to rebound if the other team makes all their shots. Then it doesn't matter how good of a rebounder someone is, it becomes a moot point.

Did I have a point in there somewhere? Probably not.