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Do we care that the article says the same about CNN and MSNBC, or are we only focusing on Fox?
 
Where do you get the idea that CNN and MSNBC are as bad as Fox? The graph clearly shows Fox below never watching the news and is the only main news source in that category. I was focusing on what the graph showed. :confused:
Apologies. I wasn't looking at the graph...just the bolded sentence that said "the most popular news sources--Fox, CNN, and MSNBC--are the least informative". You are correct that CNN and MSNBC viewers were slightly higher on the graph than watching nothing.
 
But is 2012 really "recent"?

Would like to see updated results on this.

barfo
 
Are you trolling? Just cause you don't like a subject doesn't make it trolling My thread certainly isn't trolling
The subject itself is perfectly fine, and it wouldn't have been trolling if you didn't make a conceited effort to take a jab at other forum members in your introductory post, but you did, so it is.
 
The subject itself is perfectly fine, and it wouldn't have been trolling if you didn't make a conceited effort to take a jab at other forum members in your introductory post, but you did, so it is.

There are several threads on the first page of OT that are the same type of "trolling" only bashing liberals instead of conservatives.
 
no names were mentioned so lighten up Francis. Compared to half the shit you post my post was g rated. You are bordering on a personal attack kid.

Lighten up too cup
 
Damn right I did. His posts in this thread have been insulting to me. He had no reason to post his troll crap in this thread and I asked you to clean it up. It is shit like his that derail threads and create the issues and he has been doing this ever since I came on to this forum. There was nothing wrong with my OP and I never mentioned any members names.

Where did he write an insult? Claiming your thread is a troll thread? That is his opinion. Its not really an i sult even though it offended you. What part should I clean up?
 
Where did he write an insult? Claiming your thread is a troll thread? That is his opinion. Its not really an i sult even though it offended you. What part should I clean up?

This.

Claiming a post is personally insulting to you is not the same as a personal insult. Then everyone could claim that.
 
Do as you please, but if you don't see his attempt to derail the thread I started by him crying troll with no basis then so be it but this forum will never improve then.

Giving an opinion on a thread and or post is perfectly fine. That's pretty much the purpose of a forum, giving opinions. "Attack the post, not the poster."

Instead of insulting him for giving an opinion on this thread why not explain why this thread is of interest to you. I have always found @jonnyboy to be open to constrictive debate and discussion even if it is not a subject that he agrees with.
 
Do as you please, but if you don't see his attempt to derail the thread I started by him crying troll with no basis then so be it but this forum will never improve then.

Some of both of your posts were edited/deleted.
 
And here in lies the problem. Do you guys really want this forum to improve? Allowing jonnyboy to act the way he does certainly isn't going in the right direction. Claiming a post is a troll is essentially calling the poster a troll and their was absolutely ZERO basis for him to claim that. I left this forum for a week a bit ago and now I wonder why I didn't stay away longer. Fuck it.

In a way it is a "troll" thread. A liberal thread trolling the right, just as there are several conservative threads trolling the left in the OT. Instead of insulting him ask him why he thinks it is a troll thread. What is his basis. More conversation less bickering
 
Please explain how a post like this is constructive to this thread



Are we in the 4th grade now? It is shit like this that creates issues in this forum. Delete my fucking thread then. Bailey and I have discussed these sort of issues and I can see why him and others have become frustrated. If jonnyboy would like to meet up at Mt. Tabor I would gladly discuss his short comings in this thread.

I'm saying have a conversation about it. Thats how you make threads constructive.

I deleted that post. I will not close the thread. I have been fair. Mt Tabor is between you and him. I certainly would not recommend that.
 
Do you guys really want this forum to improve?

Yes, very much so. This is of great concern to me.

But how do I do that? I feel more swag, more events, more access to players and important people in Blazer history. MORE BLAZER STUFF that is fun for fans. Having myself and staff micromanage the OT section is not supportive of that. That's why I'm just going to start putting an end to some of the BS.

Saying a thread is a troll thread is not a terrible thing. Right now we have 2 staff members in the forum. And right now these 2 staff members are devoting their time to you and this thread. I think that's damn good even if you're not satisfied with our actions or decisions.
 
Please explain how a post like this is constructive to this thread



Are we in the 4th grade now? It is shit like this that creates issues in this forum. Delete my fucking thread then. Bailey and I have discussed these sort of issues and I can see why him and others have become frustrated. If jonnyboy would like to meet up at Mt. Tabor I would gladly discuss his short comings in this thread.

I'm not sure if the standard for posting in a thread should be, "is it constructive." That seems like a lot more moderation required to enforce that forum wide.
 
leaves you less informed than watching no news, lol. This explains a lot about the president and a few in this forum.

https://www.businessinsider.com/stu...xuEahyrl0wOLXxlSIWE6LMZzyUxbvg4gCKIVzSj5wLgXQ

@CupWizier you had a comment where you noted you and i had discussed how some things can be frustrating/ or you understand my frustrations. I wanted to quote it, but it was deleted. Im guessing by a mod.

I wanted to say that, yes, we have come to a level of respect and understand frustrations.
I also cant see much of what transpired in this thread, due to edits and deletions, so forgive me if im not completely accurate.
With that said, i respectfully disagree with you. If you read above in your op i noted, you are insinuating that some members are less informed, or more ignarant than others for watching fox news.
Not really a big deal, however when you choose to call out certain members in a vague manner, you have to be prepared for there to be a variety of responses. It looks like a few people, or someone, took it personal. Again cant tell.
Maybe over the top, maybe not, but please understand, when you initiate a jab like that, you will get responses in kind.
These innitiations are what drives the responses that you claim derailed the thread.
Im saying you invited the derailing with your innitial jab in the op.

It is these things that frustrate me.

We have to be fair and fair means if your gonna start a thread that swings at some members you cant cry foul when members swing back. Its been my long standing complaint about this place. Far too many members do this here. Post a jab and then Bitch about the retaliation.

If anyone really wants this forum to improve and grow then it starts with each member holding themselves accountable. Mods will never be able to create anything great here if the forum is always at odds.
Yes, disagreements have and will continue to happen, but ALL forum members must be impartial about themsevles and others, when passing judgment on what is acceptable or not around here and if we all just took a step back when disagreeing and try to see if what someone is about to post would or could be taken wrong, maybe think of a way to reword it instead of intentionally or even unintentionally posting things that appear to be aimed at setting another off.

Get to know someone before you start jabbing if you are jabbing in fun.
Make sure they know its a jab in fun if it is not taken as such and dont do so while simultaneously insulting the person. It is contridictory.

These are basic communication skills that are either generally lacking here or intentionally disregarded in favor of watching others become frustrated.
Either way its warn me out.

Some of both of your posts were edited/deleted.

I plead with all of you mods to reevaluate this editing and possibly only edit when it could be a danger to the blazers or something.

This thread is near impossible to follow aNd in the middle of reading it, cup mentioned me, but its now gone along with alot of other content.
Not only is it completely confusing now, but it leads mods vulnerable to be accused of editing off of preferential treatment. Whether it exists or not.
You can always make a mods note below the posts, IN the posts, so all know it isnt good or has been deemed as a rule breaker aNd a warning has been given, etc.
there are several ways to make it known the post was in violation aNd still leave it there for ease of reading as well as full disclosure as to what was the violation aNd not just that a violation occured.
 
I plead with all of you mods to reevaluate this editing and possibly only edit when it could be a danger to the blazers or something.

This thread is near impossible to follow aNd in the middle of reading it, cup mentioned me, but its now gone along with alot of other content.
Not only is it completely confusing now, but it leads mods vulnerable to be accused of editing off of preferential treatment. Whether it exists or not.
You can always make a mods note below the posts, IN the posts, so all know it isnt good or has been deemed as a rule breaker aNd a warning has been given, etc.
there are several ways to make it known the post was in violation aNd still leave it there for ease of reading as well as full disclosure as to what was the violation aNd not just that a violation occured.

.... I'm at a loss for words for that bottom portion.

I've done exactly what you said multiple times, had open discussions about it. Have been grilled about doing exactly what you're pleading with us to do.

Again, a loss for words.

How about a different tact? How about people start acting like adults and not falling for the bait and instead bringing it up to us in reports, or ignoring it?

If the thread is confusing, blame it on the people we have to edit, NOT the people that have to edit it.
 
@CupWizier you had a comment where you noted you and i had discussed how some things can be frustrating/ or you understand my frustrations. I wanted to quote it, but it was deleted. Im guessing by a mod.

I wanted to say that, yes, we have come to a level of respect and understand frustrations.
I also cant see much of what transpired in this thread, due to edits and deletions, so forgive me if im not completely accurate.
With that said, i respectfully disagree with you. If you read above in your op i noted, you are insinuating that some members are less informed, or more ignarant than others for watching fox news.
Not really a big deal, however when you choose to call out certain members in a vague manner, you have to be prepared for there to be a variety of responses. It looks like a few people, or someone, took it personal. Again cant tell.
Maybe over the top, maybe not, but please understand, when you initiate a jab like that, you will get responses in kind.
These innitiations are what drives the responses that you claim derailed the thread.
Im saying you invited the derailing with your innitial jab in the op.

It is these things that frustrate me.

We have to be fair and fair means if your gonna start a thread that swings at some members you cant cry foul when members swing back. Its been my long standing complaint about this place. Far too many members do this here. Post a jab and then Bitch about the retaliation.

If anyone really wants this forum to improve and grow then it starts with each member holding themselves accountable. Mods will never be able to create anything great here if the forum is always at odds.
Yes, disagreements have and will continue to happen, but ALL forum members must be impartial about themsevles and others, when passing judgment on what is acceptable or not around here and if we all just took a step back when disagreeing and try to see if what someone is about to post would or could be taken wrong, maybe think of a way to reword it instead of intentionally or even unintentionally posting things that appear to be aimed at setting another off.

Get to know someone before you start jabbing if you are jabbing in fun.
Make sure they know its a jab in fun if it is not taken as such and dont do so while simultaneously insulting the person. It is contridictory.

These are basic communication skills that are either generally lacking here or intentionally disregarded in favor of watching others become frustrated.
Either way its warn me out.



I plead with all of you mods to reevaluate this editing and possibly only edit when it could be a danger to the blazers or something.

This thread is near impossible to follow aNd in the middle of reading it, cup mentioned me, but its now gone along with alot of other content.
Not only is it completely confusing now, but it leads mods vulnerable to be accused of editing off of preferential treatment. Whether it exists or not.
You can always make a mods note below the posts, IN the posts, so all know it isnt good or has been deemed as a rule breaker aNd a warning has been given, etc.
there are several ways to make it known the post was in violation aNd still leave it there for ease of reading as well as full disclosure as to what was the violation aNd not just that a violation occured.

For the record, I deleted my own posts as I no longer want to be a participant in this thread and even asked the mods to delete my original post. The article is the one that concluded people who watch fox news are less informed than those that watch no news. I named no names. I am now officially done in this thread and would prefer my OP was deleted but apparently the mods won't do that. I have since taken measures into my own hand

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.... I'm at a loss for words for that bottom portion.

I've done exactly what you said multiple times, had open discussions about it. Have been grilled about doing exactly what you're pleading with us to do.

Again, a loss for words.

How about a different tact? How about people start acting like adults and not falling for the bait and instead bringing it up to us in reports, or ignoring it?

If the thread is confusing, blame it on the people we have to edit, NOT the people that have to edit it.

Im at a loss for this post.

First, i myself have never advocated for editing. Only if editing is the way then try to find a way its fair.
Ive never cared for the editing. I think its a cop out and ive stated so more than once including in the rules thread. So no, you havent done what ive wanted. Though admitedly ive never been clear on it until now. I also dont think decisions are based on my wants. Im one of many here.

As far as blaming, did you read the upper portion and what i said, did you read my posts in the rules section? Before you think im blaming mods for anything please read them. Ive stated many times i think you guys do good under the circumstances. Im asking for a modification of the circumstances is all.

I totally get why your editing, im simply asking for a better solution, which, in my opinion, i have provided.

If you aRe a mod and being impartial about this, i would hope you see some of my points rather than taking it personal. The very post you quote also has me stating the best thing for this place is for posters to hold themselves accountable. I guess you missed that part?:nerd:
 
For the record, I deleted my own posts as I no longer want to be a participant in this thread and even asked the mods to delete my original post. The article is the one that concluded people who watch fox news are less informed than those that watch no news. I named no names. I am now officially done in this thread and would prefer my OP was deleted but apparently the mods won't do that. I have since taken measures into my own hand

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To me that is the stand up thing to do. Regardless if one feels right or Wrong.

If mods didn't edit and posters were allowed to edit themselves then we can see who had a heated moment but can be rational vs those who truly troll just to piss off other posters.
 
Im at a loss for this post.

First, i myself have never advocated for editing. Only if editing is the way then try to find a way its fair.
Ive never cared for the editing. I think its a cop out and ive stated so more than once including in the rules thread. So no, you havent done what ive wanted. Though admitedly ive never been clear on it until now. I also dont think decisions are based on my wants. Im one of many here.

As far as blaming, did you read the upper portion and what i said, did you read my posts in the rules section? Before you think im blaming mods for anything please read them. Ive stated many times i think you guys do good under the circumstances. Im asking for a modification of the circumstances is all.

I totally get why your editing, im simply asking for a better solution, which, in my opinion, i have provided.

If you aRe a mod and being impartial about this, i would hope you see some of my points rather than taking it personal. The very post you quote also has me stating the best thing for this place is for posters to hold themselves accountable. I guess you missed that part?:nerd:

I see your points. They have been discussed by the mods. I brought up the disclaimer at the bottom instead of editing. The issue with that S2 is the official forum of the TrailBlazers. Staff from the Blazers keep an eye on this site. If they see those types of insults they could and probably would remove their affiliation with us.
 
@CupWizier you had a comment where you noted you and i had discussed how some things can be frustrating/ or you understand my frustrations. I wanted to quote it, but it was deleted. Im guessing by a mod.

I wanted to say that, yes, we have come to a level of respect and understand frustrations.
I also cant see much of what transpired in this thread, due to edits and deletions, so forgive me if im not completely accurate.
With that said, i respectfully disagree with you. If you read above in your op i noted, you are insinuating that some members are less informed, or more ignarant than others for watching fox news.
Not really a big deal, however when you choose to call out certain members in a vague manner, you have to be prepared for there to be a variety of responses. It looks like a few people, or someone, took it personal. Again cant tell.
Maybe over the top, maybe not, but please understand, when you initiate a jab like that, you will get responses in kind.
These innitiations are what drives the responses that you claim derailed the thread.
Im saying you invited the derailing with your innitial jab in the op.

It is these things that frustrate me.

We have to be fair and fair means if your gonna start a thread that swings at some members you cant cry foul when members swing back. Its been my long standing complaint about this place. Far too many members do this here. Post a jab and then Bitch about the retaliation.

If anyone really wants this forum to improve and grow then it starts with each member holding themselves accountable. Mods will never be able to create anything great here if the forum is always at odds.
Yes, disagreements have and will continue to happen, but ALL forum members must be impartial about themsevles and others, when passing judgment on what is acceptable or not around here and if we all just took a step back when disagreeing and try to see if what someone is about to post would or could be taken wrong, maybe think of a way to reword it instead of intentionally or even unintentionally posting things that appear to be aimed at setting another off.

Get to know someone before you start jabbing if you are jabbing in fun.
Make sure they know its a jab in fun if it is not taken as such and dont do so while simultaneously insulting the person. It is contridictory.

These are basic communication skills that are either generally lacking here or intentionally disregarded in favor of watching others become frustrated.
Either way its warn me out.



I plead with all of you mods to reevaluate this editing and possibly only edit when it could be a danger to the blazers or something.

This thread is near impossible to follow aNd in the middle of reading it, cup mentioned me, but its now gone along with alot of other content.
Not only is it completely confusing now, but it leads mods vulnerable to be accused of editing off of preferential treatment. Whether it exists or not.
You can always make a mods note below the posts, IN the posts, so all know it isnt good or has been deemed as a rule breaker aNd a warning has been given, etc.
there are several ways to make it known the post was in violation aNd still leave it there for ease of reading as well as full disclosure as to what was the violation aNd not just that a violation occured.

The first part exactly. Most of the OT threads are one side taking a swing at the other. It sucks, but it is the way it is. He called out the people on the right in the forum. Johnny answered back in kind. Several posts were deleted on both sides, no preferrential treatment.
 
I'm saying have a conversation about it. Thats how you make threads constructive.

I deleted that post. I will not close the thread. I have been fair. Mt Tabor is between you and him. I certainly would not recommend that.
Mt. Tabor? Mt. Tabor? Give me a moment to grab my lawn chair and some popcorn.
 
For the record, I deleted my own posts as I no longer want to be a participant in this thread and even asked the mods to delete my original post. The article is the one that concluded people who watch fox news are less informed than those that watch no news. I named no names. I am now officially done in this thread and would prefer my OP was deleted but apparently the mods won't do that. I have since taken measures into my own hand

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Just for informational purposes - if you can't delete your post because it's the first post in the thread, you can still edit it and remove the content (replace it with ipsum lorem or never mind or whatever you want).

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