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yankeesince59

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...compared to recent off season deals, the Hamels contract looks pretty damn good.

...but hey, don't worry Cashman...everything will be OK.
 
Compared to recent FA signings getting the big bucks Hamels is "cheap" with ability that is on par with the others. Bad gig here is that Boston has a glut of prospects that may appeal to the Phillies. Nothing is set in stone but if Boston does acquire Hamels they'd be a leg up for sure. I know the Yankees felt they needed a SS but even with a short time to go on I wish they'd have hel on to Greene.
 
Hamels to Redsox is definitely not a good thing.
I would say that gives those basterds a very fair chance of pulling off another last place to WS championship.
Got a feeling the Yanks may also be kicking the tires and looking und
 
Hamels is a career 108-83 but only 17-23 over the last 2 seasons despite a low ERA (near 3) And he's due $114M over the next 5 seasons. I'm sorry but if I'm paying someone over #22M per you better be a lights out dominating pitcher which I just don't see Hamels being. Would I like to see him in pinstripes hell yeah but not for that money. JMO.
 
...actually, it's "only" $94 Mil for the next 4 years...the 5th year is very friendly vested option (must pitch at least 400 innings in 2016-17)...with a $6 Mil buyout...just sayin'.
... And if he can still pitch that many innings when becomes 34 it means he will have still been durable and effective up till then.


...his recent W/L stats are a bit skewed because the Phils have been so bad lately. Hell, take a look at last year's game log....after May he didn't give up more than 3 runs in any game he started for the rest of the year...that's pretty strong.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=hamelco01&t=p&year=2014

...and I was comparing his remaining contract to the ones the Scherzer and Lester got. And considering that, I'd rather have Hamels. He just turned 30 years old, pitches 200+ innings nearly every year, he strikes out a ton of batters, doesn't walk many, and more importantly he's a LHer.
 
Lately Hamels has been a fine pitcher on a deteriorating team, damn sure solve some pitching problems if the Yankees could get him.
 
...and oh, Hamels made 3o starts last year and 25 of them were "Quality Starts"... (83%)
 
Like I said, I'd love to have him but the contracts a little rich. I didn't realize he was only 30 though. I guess we'll just chalk this up to ANOTHER Cashman over sight. Nothing like earning that new contract extension.
 
...yeah, it's obvious that Cashman clearly has a solid "plan".
 
...gotta wonder if the Red Sox expressing interest in Hamels will spark the Yanx to make an offer?...if for nothing else, to drive the price up. (Yanx and Sox have done this to each other before)
 
yankeesince59 said:
...yeah, it's obvious that Cashman clearly has a solid "plan".
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I'm thinking maybe part of his "plan" is waiting/expecting to see better production coming from approx 99 mil owed to six of his players four of which are entering the second year of their contracts - Tanaka, McCann, Beltran and to a lesser degree Ellsbury who did well last year and of course Tex and CC.
And making a trade for a young inexpensive SS who could possibly fill that hole for a few years if he improves.....of course it's a gamble and don't we all know Cashman is the ONLY GM who makes trades without any risks.... lmao!

But then again, maybe he should just release all of those players and spend another 100 mil.

Now THAT'S what I call a creative "plan". lol

This really is becoming quite humorous.
 
...well, at present, you seem to be the only one laughing about it...you also are the only one I know of predicting 90+ wins. ...derp.
 
blgridesagain said:
No, actually you're supplying the whiny childish humor.
Cashman.....whaaaaa whaaaaaa........Kevin Long....whaaaaa whaaaa
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Geezus fkn Chrisssstsakes, If I hear you mention Kevin Long, I'm going to write you off, as an escaped Bellevue mental head case.....get over it already, its obvious blg, your only intent is to start shit, and not finish it off, intelligently.

There's name for that, its called Schizophrenia....

 
yankeesince59 said:
...I'd love to have Hamels but I think the Sox have the better chance of signing him.
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I agree, yet, I'd give up Cappy, Adam Warren, Bryan Mitchell and Chase Whitley, for Hamels, tho' I'd like to see the Yanx hang onto Whitely. He kind of reminds me of a young Kevin Appier, who would throw 5 innings of no-hit, or shutout Pitching, in his 1st two years, then the wheels would fall off, and Appier was pulled.

However (the local Prodigy, who played LL against my Brother), went on to find his groove, and was often in the AL top 3 for lowest ERA's, some guys, just need a year or two to figure out all the bells and whistles, or how MLB hitters are wired.....
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Geezus fkn Chrisssstsakes, If I hear you mention Kevin Long, I'm going to write you off, as an escaped Bellevue mental head case.....get over it already, its obvious blg, your only intent is to start shit, and not finish it off, intelligently.

There's name for that, its called Schizophrenia....

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...reminded of an old T-Rex tune I have not heard in awhile...Marc Bolan, taken way too soon.


 
yankeesince59 said:
...reminded of an old T-Rex tune I have not heard in awhile...Marc Bolan, taken way too soon.


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I really appreciated Marc Bolan's music, and owned every LP he ever made......truly the gate keeper; who paved the way for glitter rockers like Bowie......

Bolan helped the UK forget about the Beatles for a bit, or so, not totally, yet gave screaming kids, a new Musician to believe in....sad ending to his life too....

Nice clip 59....as always.....!
 
Mattingly23NY said:
I agree, yet, I'd give up Cappy, Adam Warren, Bryan Mitchell and Chase Whitley, for Hamels, tho' I'd like to see the Yanx hang onto Whitely. He kind of reminds me of a young Kevin Appier, who would throw 5 innings of no-hit, or shutout Pitching, in his 1st two years, then the wheels would fall off, and Appier was pulled.

However (the local Prodigy, who played LL against my Brother), went on to find his groove, and was often in the AL top 3 for lowest ERA's, some guys, just need a year or two to figure out all the bells and whistles, or how MLB hitters are wired.....
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You mean you wouldn't offer up the great Stephen Drew.
 
Yep, I would offer up the infamous Stephen Drew on a Aztec/Mayan Altar for a Sacrificial Lamb to the Gods......!

Montezuma where are you when we need to spill blood of infidels....?
 
yankeesince59 said:
...and of course;

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Classic Bolan at His Best. There would of been No Ziggy Stardust, and The Spiders From Mars without Bolan.

Sad also to see the legendary Mick Ronson, platinum hair and all, tour with Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue, only to die of Liver Cancer at 46, I believe he was.......

Glam Rock Historical Review- Courtesy of: http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-r...ardust-and-the-spiders-from-mars-mw0000626129

Bowie reached back to the heavy rock of The Man Who Sold the World for The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars. Constructed as a loose concept album about an androgynous alien rock star named Ziggy Stardust, the story falls apart quickly, yet Bowie's fractured, paranoid lyrics are evocative of a decadent, decaying future, and the music echoes an apocalyptic, nuclear dread. Fleshing out the off-kilter metallic mix with fatter guitars, genuine pop songs, string sections, keyboards, and a cinematic flourish, Ziggy Stardust is a glitzy array of riffs, hooks, melodrama, and style and the logical culmination of glam. Mick Ronson plays with a maverick flair that invigorates rockers like "Suffragette City," "Moonage Daydream," and "Hang Onto Yourself," while "Lady Stardust," "Five Years," and "Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" have a grand sense of staged drama previously unheard of in rock & roll. And that self-conscious sense of theater is part of the reason why Ziggy Stardust sounds so foreign. Bowie succeeds not in spite of his pretensions but because of them, and Ziggy Stardust -- familiar in structure, but alien in performance -- is the first time his vision and execution met in such a grand, sweeping fashion.




Ronson had the sweetest new Les Paul Sound of a prominent front man, for Bowie; who had the Glam Rock moves, and Crazy PR approach, which drove parents nuts, but gave young guys like us, a voice of not rebellion, but a platform for change in Music Culture, and the rest is all History. With Bolan leading the charges by 1970-76, Bolan, Bowie, Mott The Hoople, and many other Brit Bands, gave our voices a clear resounding: "time for a change",

those Andy Williams, Perry Como records, as well as Art Linkletter Sunday Night TV shows, as boring and stale as they were.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Ronson
 
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A rather long BBC Documentary, yet worth the watch. This Docu- shows how Music was rapidly finding its own voice, apart from Woodstock, with a 2nd Brit Invasion.....

Of course Bolan was the Field General, and Bowie his Colonel, but what did this all make Ronson? The 2nd best Guitarist ranking behind Jimmy Page, and one ahead of Eric Clapton: aka "God".....~~

"In 1974, Ronson secured the No. 2 spot from a reader's poll in Creem magazine as the best guitarist that year (with Jimmy Page taking first place), and Eric Clapton in third place after Ronson."
 
Wait, when did Hamels..................................................................................................................................bang a gong?
 
yankeesince59 said:
...well, at present, you seem to be the only one laughing about it...you also are the only one I know of predicting 90+ wins. ...derp.
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Excuse me....once again you're playing your little word games....I have said I think the Yanks will win APPROX 90 games- you said 90+ wins.


Stop putting words in my mouth.....and YES, sometimes people have THEIR reasons to waive "pom poms".
 
No disrespect for the Crooners, my Mom so loved, including Englebert fknn Humperdink, (what a fkd up name), please don't make me say Tom "Panty's in the Face" Jones.....




 
Rick2583 said:
Wait, when did Hamels..................................................................................................................................bang a gong?
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Hamels did bang a gong, once he was noted in 08 as the young phenom southpaw, upon being spoken of, as one of the leading young new phenoms, replacing those "20st Century Boys"

At least that's what Tom told me......
 
Mattingly23NY said:
No disrespect for the Crooners, my Mom so loved, including Englebert fknn Humperdink, (what a fkd up name), please don't make me say Tom "Panty's in the Face" Jones.....




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Yeah why the hell he went from his birth name (Arnold Dorsey) To Engelbert Humperdinck is beyond me.

Anyway, about this Hamels kid. I 'd like to see him in pinstripes.
 
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