REFSNYDER being recalled tmo

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MuskyHunter1 said:
i understand i will get blasted for this around here but damn robbie was the best at second i have ever watched. i loved sandberg for the cubs growing up around this place but robbie was so smooth and a beast with the bat. i still think he ends up in the hall if he stays with the yanks but the guy chose the $. most of us would do the same if given the chance in our professions.
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Blasted no. I agree he was the best with the bat, and it would have been nice if he could have stayed if the contract was shorter, but he was a lazy runner and wasn't the absolute best with the glove...
 
cagedlion said:
Born in Seoul, South Korea.
Grad of Arizona U.

Stats in Scranton this year:
In 81 games.... BA .290 90 Hits,
17 Dbls, 7 HRs. 10 SB. 37 RBIs. 44 Wlks. 44 SOs.

13 Errors. Only 2 errors since first week of June.*

Let's see how these 2 days go.
Good luck, Rob.

*If Stephen Drew is glad to have you on board,
you must know the 2B job is yours to keep.
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While he had an error yesterday, I still think he's the best option as of now and I'm still glad he's been brought up
 
While that error was debatable (Miller?), that swing is not, and neither was that HR.

I really like seeing the Yanks call young guys up. It's been a long time (almost never) since we've seen them rotate young guys through. Sure, some for a cup of coffee and gone, but it's refreshing…especially since they are winning. Let's hope Refsnyder is here to stay!
 
bern_baby_bern said:
While that error was debatable (Miller?), that swing is not, and neither was that HR.

I really like seeing the Yanks call young guys up. It's been a long time (almost never) since we've seen them rotate young guys through. Sure, some for a cup of coffee and gone, but it's refreshing…especially since they are winning. Let's hope Refsnyder is here to stay!
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Let's also hope he isn't just being put out there as trade bait... That would suck
 
yankeesince59 said:
...don't know who'd want him but I wonder if maybe Drew might get traded by the deadline...as a late inning defensive replacement, he still serves a purpose...just not on the Yanx...:bgrin:

...love to see Refsnyder stick.
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Refsnyder is "sticking" and , just curious, after YOU dump Drew, who do you have in mind as the backup SS and 2b?

A significant part of the "PLAN" is on schedule....Yanks gave Drew an ample opportunity while also having Refsnyder get enough seasoning (defensively) at AAA and lo and behold, Refsnyder has ALREADY made his debut BEFORE the All Star break with the Yanks in first place by a couple few games. It's all good for now.....I won't lose any sleep until the Yanks are well behind the eight ball.
Let me know when I should be "concerned". lol
 
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I'd prefer drew to stay and backup 2nd and ss. Next up should be severino who is absolutely dominating triple A and might be our 2nd or 3rd best starting option up here right now as we speak. Judge looks like he may need a little more triple a time but if they can find a sucker (angels) or mets who will take beltran off their hands I wouldnt mind seeing him up earlier. That was a bomb refsnyder hit and that error should have been miller. The kid looks ok to me in the field the chances I've seen him have so far. The bat is no doubt
 
mrmel29 said:
I'd prefer drew to stay and backup 2nd and ss. Next up should be severino who is absolutely dominating triple A and might be our 2nd or 3rd best starting option up here right now as we speak. Judge looks like he may need a little more triple a time but if they can find a sucker (angels) or mets who will take beltran off their hands I wouldnt mind seeing him up earlier. That was a bomb refsnyder hit and that error should have been miller. The kid looks ok to me in the field the chances I've seen him have so far. The bat is no doubt
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You'd keep Drew? Why? I'd agree about Beltran & Judge
 
Between Petit, Ryan & Drew, Drew would be the better back up.
 
...the only thing Drew has got going for him is that he can play different positions competently...you might think that with Refsnyder possibly staying, they'd use the two of them in a platoon role depending on the starting pitching...but oddly enough, as bad as Drew has been at the plate, he's actually been worse when facing RHed pitching....go figure.
 
...fwiw, I still wouldn't mind seeing Zobrist in place of Drew.
 
..."stunt his growth"?...I hear that phrase quite a bit but more times than not, I disagree with it...Zobrist would be a 3 month rental upgrade for the 2nd half, period...Refsnyder would still get some playing time...hey, I like the kid but I don't think he's an every day 2Bman...and don't forget, he had always been a RFer and he's only recently converted to 2B. (Yankee's infinite development wisdom)...and defensively, he's never been very good at 2B.
...if he proves he can hit MLB pitching he may very well end up going back to the OF...or maybe 1B, who knows.
...also keep in mind that if he does somehow become the Yanx' regular 2Bman, he and DiDi still have to learn to work together...there could be a lot of moans and groans and growing pains ahead.

...I hope I'm wrong.
 
Drew would be the best bet as backup. Ryan plays two games and gets hurt so he's useless. Petit is complete garbage also.
 
...I never implied that Zobrist is the second coming...but he's a very solid player and carries himself as a consummate professional which is one reason I like him...and he's a contact making switch hitter who plays 2B, SS, and RF.

...not much not to like.
 
Refsnyder is staying imo, Yanks will go with him until/if he shows poor defensive play or if he can't hold his own as a new rookie with the stick (which I doubt) .
It's his time...we wanted him...the Yanks gave him a couple few months to satisfactory demonstrate he wasn't a defensive liability at AAA and they have every reason to believe he'll eventually be an overral offensive improvement over Drew.

His time has arrived. Now it's up to him.
Some were clamoring for him from opening day despite his defensive struggles learning a new position.
And now we're getting cold feet over his defense?
It's time to face the music and see how the kid handles himself and what he can or cannot do. Kinda exciting!


As for Zobrist, yes he's a good useful rental who also happens to be owed 1.25 more million than Drew at this point and there could still be some other deal in the works at the deadline for some other "better" rental and that 1.25 mil could come in handy.
 
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yankeesince59 said:
...I never implied that Zobrist is the second coming...but he's a very solid player and carries himself as a consummate professional which is one reason I like him...and he's a contact making switch hitter who plays 2B, SS, and RF.

...not much not to like.
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zobrist would be a really nice upgrade to this team. sitting in first place you can't go into the second half with didi & drew basically shit at the plate. u want a ring cashman has to upgrade a few positions and drew is one.
 
NTM-Hopefully sooner than latter, Aaron Judge will be playing RF, once he gets used to the more intense competition....which may alleviate others spending a few games in RF, or not......?

The BIG 6'7" ??? RF, has a strong arm, haven't seen enough to see just how accurate, and avg in his arm speed, strength and velocity, need to see more.....

In the Future's Game, after an 0-1 Count, Judge K'd watching 3 strikes paint the plate, without taking the bat off of his shoulder. On His 2nd att bat (as the DH), he hit a ground ball so damned hard, the 3rd baseman was already playing on the OF edge a step or 2 on the grass, and caught a smoker, He was Lucky to snag, about 12 feet backwards into the OF. Judge beat out the throw, the ball was scorched and hit hard enough, I'm not sure Brooks Robinson could of beat Judge on the throw..........

I hope like Hell Judge can bring some RBI pop to this club in 016 or whatever it takes......

A Big Kid, a Big Strike Zone, yet he seems to protect his plate well, and drew comparisons to Giancarlo Stanton......size, strength, abilities ?
 
Mattingly23NY said:
NTM-Hopefully sooner than latter, Aaron Judge will be playing RF, once he gets used to the more intense competition....which may alleviate others spending a few games in RF, or not......?

The BIG 6'7" ??? RF, has a strong arm, haven't seen enough to see just how accurate, and avg in his arm speed, strength and velocity, need to see more.....

In the Future's Game, after an 0-1 Count, Judge K'd watching 3 strikes paint the plate, without taking the bat off of his shoulder. On His 2nd att bat (as the DH), he hit a ground ball so damned hard, the 3rd baseman was already playing on the OF edge a step or 2 on the grass, and caught a smoker, He was Lucky to snag, about 12 feet backwards into the OF. Judge beat out the throw, the ball was scorched and hit hard enough, I'm not sure Brooks Robinson could of beat Judge on the throw..........

I hope like Hell Judge can bring some RBI pop to this club in 016 or whatever it takes......

A Big Kid, a Big Strike Zone, yet he seems to protect his plate well, and drew comparisons to Giancarlo Stanton......size, strength, abilities ?
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What's with the ???? He looks bigger than 6'7" in person...
 
MuskyHunter1 said:
zobrist would be a really nice upgrade to this team. sitting in first place you can't go into the second half with didi & drew basically shit at the plate. u want a ring cashman has to upgrade a few positions and drew is one.
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...yup, if not Zobrist, something needs to be done about 7-8-9 spots. Some kind of improvement needs to to be made because as it currently constructed it is very hard for this offense to sustain rallies. I realize that typically, the bottom of the line up are not a team's best hitters, but the Yanx really need more production from those spots.
...if they are fortunate enough to make the PS they will obviously be facing solid pitching where HR or bust offenses are usually made less of a threat.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...yup, if not Zobrist, something needs to be done about 7-8-9 spots. Some kind of improvement needs to to be made because as it currently constructed it is very hard for this offense to sustain rallies. I realize that typically, the bottom of the line up are not a team's best hitters, but the Yanx really need more production from those spots.
...if they are fortunate enough to make the PS they will obviously be facing solid pitching where HR or bust offenses are usually made less of a threat.
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Keeping Refsnyder in there should help
 
yankeesince59 said:
...yup, if not Zobrist, something needs to be done about 7-8-9 spots. Some kind of improvement needs to to be made because as it currently constructed it is very hard for this offense to sustain rallies. I realize that typically, the bottom of the line up are not a team's best hitters, but the Yanx really need more production from those spots.
...if they are fortunate enough to make the PS they will obviously be facing solid pitching where HR or bust offenses are usually made less of a threat.
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The bottom 3 has definitely been the Yankees achilles heal this season. But like Steve just mentioned I'm hoping Refsnyder's presence improves that.
 
^^^...as long as Drew is still on the roster I just don't see Refsnyder as the everyday 2Bman...yes, his bat should be better than Drew's but at what price?...how much of a trade off between the differences in offense vs the differences in defense ?
 
It all likelihood I see it becoming a lefty/righty platoon situation.
 
^^^ but like I already pointed out, oddly enough, as bad as Drew has been, he's actually been even worse vs RHed pitching. (.170 .250 .374 .624 )
 
Rick2583 said:
It all likelihood I see it becoming a lefty/righty platoon situation.
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I don't see it.

Say hello to our little friend - Drew, the "new" backup SS and 2b.....just as some of suspected would eventually happen back in May/early June if/when the Yanks felt Refsnyder was "ready" to be promoted.
 
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