Refsnyder or Starlin Castro......?

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Stick with Refsnyder. Besides Castro's nick name is "Hands of stone". Or should be.
 
I hope the Yankees stick with Refsyyder. I've heard Castro can be a "head case" at times.
 
Also Castro has only played about 35 games at 2B in his career & not very well.
 
Castro HAS produced, is still young and NOBODY can really say he won't find himself and bbbbe at least as good defensively as Refsnyder could be/has been......but I also have no problem if the Yanks go with Refsnyder. None whatsoever. He seems to be part of the plan to HELP get younger and less expensive.
And don't forget Ackley as a posible compliment for him at 2b.


Don't worry, we'll revisit this again if Castro settles down at 2b and Refsnyder is a butcher at 2b - which I hope HE ISN'T!

lmao
 
...Hey, let's acquire Castro, let him sit and wait till we give Refsnyder/Ackley and maybe even Ryan a try...if those 3 can't hack it, switch Castro to 2B and give him the job !

...yeah, that's the ticket.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...Hey, let's acquire Castro, let him sit and wait till we give Refsnyder/Ackley and maybe even Ryan a try...if those 3 can't hack it, switch Castro to 2B and give him the job !

...yeah, that's the ticket.
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Yeah, that's the ticket,......

but, but, but if all those mentioned fail, we can always petition, I mean Rick can petition to get Drew back
 
Bbbbut everyone (i.e. the "majority"of 5-7 on a Yankee Forum board,lol) will eventually find fault if the Yanks DO go with Refsnyder and he struggles defensively and possibly isn't quite the hitter some expected him to be. And of course the obligatory quips about "the plan" included.
There's alot of Monday morn QBs around who sometimes suffer from convenient amnesia. Lol, a nice comfortable position to be in...if Refsnyder's does well, its all good, if he doesn't cut it...just revert back to ridiculing "the plan" or Cashman. Hilarious.

Most of us believe it's Refsnyder's turn as he has demonstrated he can hit at AAA and a few ML ABs.
Give credit to the majority who didn't want and never would've signed Drew to begin the 2015 season....I was the only one (?) who kinda understood the Yanks' reasoning and tolerated the Yanks signing Drew thinking with a full ST and fresh start he could give them .245-.255 BA with double digit HRs and good defense.
After the first couple of months of him continuing with a .190-.200 BA, I was calling for the Yanks to promote Refsnyder and put him at 2b.
And to be fair to Refsnyder's AND the Yanks, he himself admitted (in an article) he understood why the Yanks were keeping him at AAA.
He pointed out how generally teams like to have a player learning a new position to have a certain amount of games at the position before giving them the job on the ML level, and he wasn't at THAT amount of games yet (at that point).

The Refsnyder issue will probably be brought up one way or another during the 2016 season- whether the Yanks should've traded for a 2B or him being the regular 2b.

As for Castro (still 25 yrs old) he certainly makes a ton of errors.
Has a .281 career BA, been an AllStar three times.
Since being a regular player he has averaged 153G per season.
Had a down year with the bat (.245) in 2013....a .290 hitter otherwise.

It'll be interesting to see how he does at 2b defensively if he remains at that position.

And Cashman has NOT traded for Castro as we speak...it hasn't happened.
 
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...another light hitting IFer with questionable defense and a career OPS+ of 97...but yeah, let's try to convert him to a 2Bman anyway...and then cross our fingers.

...no to Castro.
 
And plan 2 would be Ackley full time if Refsnyder doesn't work out. We don't need Castro & his 35 games of experience at 2B.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...another light hitting IFer with questionable defense and a career OPS+ of 97...but yeah, let's try to convert him to a 2Bman anyway...and then cross our fingers.

...no to Castro.
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Okay - I hear ya. Can't find fault with it.
I am not calling for the Yanks to trade for Castro.
It's Refsnyder's job to lose - imo- as I have said in other posts.
I think he WILL hit and if he's an average 2b, the Yanks can win with that package. I just hope he isn't a klutz at turning the DP.
I am excited about Refsnyder- homegrown kid, converted to a "higher" profile position, has hit well...could be a very important player if the Yanks want to continue with this "younger less expensive" thing.
lol
 
Rick2583 said:
And plan 2 would be Ackley full time if Refsnyder doesn't work out. We don't need Castro & his 35 games of experience at 2B.
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I am not calling for a trade for Castro.
Want Refsnyder to have every chance to at least lose the job at 2b.
And I wouldn't be surprised if Ackley does okay in his back-up role.
 
...hey, don't be questioning Cashman !

OOPS! I'm sorry, I forgot.
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C'mon guys, lol....this one (Refsnyder) doesn't appear to be a dumbass move. Lol....even Cashman must know it isn't such a ridiculous move finding out what Ref can do.
The kid already has a playoff game under his belt as a starting player....this has to help a bit if only to get the taste of "big game" butterflies/experience.

Don't worry, I can bash :smiley-lol_hitting:Cashman with the best of them.
I'm not related to him, I don't drink shots of Tequila out of his bellybutton, and I certainly don't perform any kinky "things" with him.

:supporter:
 
Mattingly23NY said:
did the subject matter change to Hilllary......:devilwink:
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...no, it's just funny that a week ago he said that Castro could solve our 2B problem for several years and that he would do the Gardner for Castro deal and outlined his misguided reasons why...now he's saying hey, "I am not calling for a trade for Castro".

...yet more flip flopping and fence riding...spiffy !
 
yankeesince59 said:
...no, it's just funny that a week ago he said that Castro could solve our 2B problem for several years and that he would do the Gardner for Castro deal and outlined his misguided reasons why...now he's saying hey, "I am not calling for a trade for Castro".

...yet more flip flopping and fence riding...spiffy !
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just like Hillary then, eh....? That's rather a scary thought..!
 
yankeesince59 said:
...flip/flop
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Don't give me that bullsh!t.....flip flop about what?
Did you hear me suggesting the Yanks should trade for Castro?
There were rumors of Yanks trading Gardy for Castro and I did say I would "do it".... and I said it because I believe at this point Castro is a better player, just 25 yrs old with a similar contract as Gardy.
It was not a knock on Refsnyder - I have no problem with the Yanks if they want to give him the 2b job.
And after my post in that thread, I asked who's in favor and Rick said NO and pointed out how many errors he made.

Am I wrong about Castro? Okay, fine. Whatever.
Do YOU really know he isn't a good enough athlete to make a transfer to 2b and make LESS errors than he did as a SS?
Of course you do NOT.

And I still stand by my opinion (in this thread) → it'll be interesting to see how Castro handles the 2b job going forward.

By the way - Let me give you a tip, as of now, we'll never know if Castro (or Refsnyder, to be fair) will or won't be the answer to the Yanks' 2b problem for years.

II bet you feel as if you accomplished something....?
 
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blgridesagain said:
Don't give me that bullsh!t.....flip flop about what?
Did you hear me suggesting the Yanks should trade for Castro?

...uhh, yes. You flat out said it...and using your standard "lol/hee haw" to discredit the people who thought it was a bad idea.

There were rumors of Yanks trading Gardy for Castro and I did say I would "do it".... and I said it because I believe at this point Castro is a better player, just

...you outlined multiple reasons why you'd make the trade.


...these are your exact words;

"...and Castro (25) could solve the Yanks 2b issue for the next few years......"loling"......hee haw hee haw......Casro's contract?➡ Yanks will be dropping Gardner's salary, and HOW MUCH more after 2016/2017?......"loling"......hee haw....hee haw.....
Um, Lil?....paying attention to any of this? This is a good example of some of the things I touched on in my "explanation" regarding The Plan and this Board.
It's a good time to poll the board regarding this trade rumor.
I would do it if I were the Yanks for reasons listed- age, team need, manageable with current and future payroll."

...sounds like you were all for the trade to me...so stop squirming and flip flopping.
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Backpedaling, flip flop?
Castro is a better player at this point than Refsnyder, I gave the same reasons then as now. Tell us about the members of the "majority" who think Gardy has become a glorified #4 outfielder.....yep, you're slick....in your own mind.
yankeesince59 said:
...no, it's just funny that a week ago he said that Castro could solve our 2B problem for several years and that he would do the Gardner for Castro deal and outlined his misguided reasons why...now he's saying hey, "I am not calling for a trade for Castro".

...yet more flip flopping and fence riding...spiffy !
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Misguided reasons? Are you nuts?
Because you said they're "misguided"? Lmao.
Get this in your head, pass it along to the audience- if the Yanks choose to go with Refsnyder, I have no problem with it.
If the Yanks traded Gardy for Castro, I have no problem with it.

Sorry if I can walk and chew gum simultaneously.

Wow, you really zinged me!
l m a o
 
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blgridesagain said:
Misguided reasons? Are you nuts?
Because you said they're "misguided"? Lmao.

...uhh no, they were misguided for the reasons that Rick and I clearly pointed out. And you even admitted that you could not find fault with our reasoning.

Get this in your head, pass it along to the audience- if the Yanks choose to go with Refsnyder, I have no problem with it.
If the Yanks traded Gardy for Castro, I have no problem with it.

...so in other words, you have no opinion on this one way or another...way to take a stand, fence rider.

Sorry if I can walk and chew gum simultaneously.

...you probably can't slice a salami without botching it either.

Wow, you really zinged me!

...no, as usual, you zinged yourself...live with it.

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Speaking of flopping fish, just saw an ESPN article that "Big Sloppi" is extending a warm welcome to Bostons' newest ace David Price. Remembering the days when old Shrek ran his mouth about Price he's had a change of heart praising Price to the skies (ie smooching butt).
 
yankeesince59 said:
...no, it's just funny that a week ago he said that Castro could solve our 2B problem for several years and that he would do the Gardner for Castro deal and outlined his misguided reasons why...now he's saying hey, "I am not calling for a trade for Castro".

...yet more flip flopping and fence riding...spiffy !
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Here's where I think you're fullashit, and "misguided":
When you say I suggested the Yanks trade for Castro, you're implying I was the one who first proposed it.


I DID say I would do it if that was the deal.
Will Refsnyder be a career .281 like Castro? I hope he's better.
My opinion, he will "hit".
Will he be a better "2b" than Castro? I hope so!
 
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yankeesince59 said:
Misguided reasons? Are you nuts?
Because you said they're "misguided"? Lmao.

...uhh no, they were misguided for the reasons that Rick and I clearly pointed out. And you even admitted that you could not find fault with our reasoning.
Get this in your head, pass it along to the audience- if the Yanks choose to go with Refsnyder, I have no problem with it.
If the Yanks traded Gardy for Castro, I have no problem with it.

...so in other words, you have no opinion on this one way or another...way to take a stand, fence rider.

Sorry if I can walk and chew gum simultaneously.

...you probably can't slice a salami without botching it either.

Wow, you really zinged me!

...no, as usual, you zinged yourself...live with it.
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but can you chew gum, walk on your hands, one hand, juggle 4 oranges, while tap dancing to the Catalina Magdalena Lupenschtiener Vollenwiener song!

 
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