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Erroneous Subterfuge said:
This was obviously related to religion, it's not really debatable. Easter is a religious holiday and the headline reads: Police: Ohio woman killed over Easter attire It doesn't say woman killed over attire. This doesn't necessarily mean God/Jesus told her to do it, but her actions were clearly heavily influenced by her religious zealousness. If it had nothing to do with the holiday then Easter wouldn't have even been mentioned.
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If the woman has killed somebody for committing adultery, would it be because of religion? After all, the 10 Commandments say not to commit adultery.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Lol, yup, all the great thinkers of the last 10k years were atheists

:biglaugh:
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It's all relative.

People evolved over eons from much more simple-minded creatures, and were quite moronic throughout history. By today's standards, there were no "Great thinkers" until quite recently.

"Great thinkers" have always been graded on a scale, compared to their peers of that period in time. This has resulted in credit being given perhaps where none is due.

Newton was lauded for noting shit falls down. Society was so retarded back then that this was something nobody had noticed before. "Wow" they said, "he must be a friggin' genius!"

Most "Great thinkers" firmly believed the world was flat. Most believed in witches and warlocks. They believed certain races were inferior and that the weather would improve if they murdered young virgins to appease their gods....

Today's average 3rd grader would be heralded as a genius were he/she to go back in time a mere 100 years.
 
Newton invented calculus.
 
MARIS61 said:
Newton was lauded for noting shit falls down. Society was so retarded back then that this was something nobody had noticed before. "Wow" they said, "he must be a friggin' genius!"
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:biglaugh:

This is classic. Somebody (you Maris) that wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of solving a differential equation (or even knowing what it is) claiming that what Newton did wasn't impressive.


PS: That's calculus, since I'm sure you don't know.
 
MARIS61 said:
It's all relative.

People evolved over eons from much more simple-minded creatures, and were quite moronic throughout history. By today's standards, there were no "Great thinkers" until quite recently.

"Great thinkers" have always been graded on a scale, compared to their peers of that period in time. This has resulted in credit being given perhaps where none is due.

Newton was lauded for noting shit falls down. Society was so retarded back then that this was something nobody had noticed before. "Wow" they said, "he must be a friggin' genius!"

Most "Great thinkers" firmly believed the world was flat. Most believed in witches and warlocks. They believed certain races were inferior and that the weather would improve if they murdered young virgins to appease their gods....

Today's average 3rd grader would be heralded as a genius were he/she to go back in time a mere 100 years.
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LOL :sigh:
 
Shooter said:
Yeah, that Albert Einstein was a real moron. So was Isaac Newton, Copernicus, DaVinci, Rembrandt, Descarte, Kepler, Galileo, and Kieerkegaard. They all believed in that "mythical supernatural being" called God, so I guess they must have been totally out of their minds.
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They weren't all that bright compared to anyone alive today obviously, and had no grasp at all on the facets of simple logic.

Just because someone is creative and inquisitive doesn't mean they are grounded in reality. Usually the opposite is true. It takes a certain kind of tunnel-vision to really excel at something, sometimes preventing you from seeing the obvious.

You're talking for the most part about people who shit on the ground out behind the house because something as simple as indoor plumbing had not occurred to them yet. :biglaugh:
 
blazerboy30 said:
If the woman has killed somebody for committing adultery, would it be because of religion? After all, the 10 Commandments say not to commit adultery.
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LOL... That's much more of a stretch and has no bearing on this Easter story. I don't feel like I'm having to read too far between the lines to come to the conclusion that I think this woman's distorted view of religion was her motivation, but if that somehow offends you, I apologize. It wasn't meant to. It's not like I think all religious people are like this, or even 1%.
 
MARIS61 said:
It's all relative.

People evolved over eons from much more simple-minded creatures, and were quite moronic throughout history. By today's standards, there were no "Great thinkers" until quite recently.

"Great thinkers" have always been graded on a scale, compared to their peers of that period in time. This has resulted in credit being given perhaps where none is due.

Newton was lauded for noting shit falls down. Society was so retarded back then that this was something nobody had noticed before. "Wow" they said, "he must be a friggin' genius!"

Most "Great thinkers" firmly believed the world was flat. Most believed in witches and warlocks. They believed certain races were inferior and that the weather would improve if they murdered young virgins to appease their gods....

Today's average 3rd grader would be heralded as a genius were he/she to go back in time a mere 100 years.
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Here's one for you, acclaimed to be one of the current geniuses

Nelson Mandela, that was just off the top of my head...
 
Gregor Mendel founded the study of genetics. He was a monk.
 
MARIS61 said:
So did Gottfried Leibniz.

If you have a point, it escapes me. :dunno:
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Inventing Calculus and the math that accurately predicts the orbit of planets and other celestial objects is a wee bit more than discovering that things fall down.
 
MARIS61 said:
At the very least, a person's fervent belief in mythical super-beings should cause one to question that person's sanity or their IQ.
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This from a guy who worships a dead baseball player? :crazy:

So, as I understand the "logic" here, some loony lady shoots somebody because she thinks their Easter outfit is out of line, and that says something valid about the evils of religion.

Seems like pretty frequently you read about soccer hooligans going berserk and killing opposing fans for wearing the other team's colors. Must mean that soccer is evil.
 
e_blazer said:
This from a guy who worships a dead baseball player? :crazy:

So, as I understand the "logic" here, some loony lady shoots somebody because she thinks their Easter outfit is out of line, and that says something valid about the evils of religion.

Seems like pretty frequently you read about soccer hooligans going berserk and killing opposing fans for wearing the other team's colors. Must mean that soccer is evil.
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Good analogy, and no, it doesn't mean soccer is evil.


I can't help but wonder though if soccer fans would then claim that the story has nothing to do with soccer. ;)
 
Erroneous Subterfuge said:
Good analogy, and no, it doesn't mean soccer is evil.


I can't help but wonder though if soccer fans would then claim that the story has nothing to do with soccer. ;)
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It may have more to do with drinking too much.

;)
 
If you believe in the Adam and Eve story you are out of your fucking mind.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Here's one for you, acclaimed to be one of the current geniuses

Nelson Mandela, that was just off the top of my head...
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A clever politician certainly, but you're lowering the bar quite a bit to call him a genius.
 
Uncle Ty said:
Einstein did not believe in your God. His "God" is not the God of any religion today. He referred to "God" as any forces that created the universe and the laws that followed. Be it a fat dude, skinny woman with huge tits, the Spaghetti Monster, or a speck of dust. That was Einstein's "God". He most definitely did not believe in a personal God, yet he wasn't a deist either. Einstein was an atheist. But for a lack of a better word, "God" was what Einstein used to attributed things that human currently lack the understanding about the universe. I suspect that is what many of the people you listed referred to "God" as, as well.

Religious people have been so dishonest in grouping the great scientists as religious people any time any of those scientists mentioned the word "God". This quote from Einstein is often used by religious people to argue that Einstein was a theist: "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Of course, this is what Einstein had to say about that quote: "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
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Please inform us. Define what "your God" is. Then tell us how "your God" is different than Einstein's God.

(by "your" I mean the same "your" you did above).
 
Erroneous Subterfuge said:
LOL... That's much more of a stretch and has no bearing on this Easter story. I don't feel like I'm having to read too far between the lines to come to the conclusion that I think this woman's distorted view of religion was her motivation, but if that somehow offends you, I apologize. It wasn't meant to. It's not like I think all religious people are like this, or even 1%.
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I'm not offended. You're just jumping to the conclusion that because somebody had a dislike of an issue that just happend to align with something religious, their dislike must be based in religion. And that is a leap in logic. Sorry.
 
Uncle Ty said:
I believe Shooter is a Christian. I don't quite know what you want me to differentiate. I gathered that Shooter believes that like himself, Einstein believed in a personal God. Einstein did not.
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My point is that almost everybody has a different definition of "God", even within Christianity. It seems pretty absurd to think you can, as a third person, decide who's Gods are different.
 
blazerboy30 said:
My point is that almost everybody has a different definition of "God", even within Christianity. It seems pretty absurd to think you can, as a third person, decide who's Gods are different.
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Since they're all imaginary, I'm pretty sure they're all different.
 
Uncle Ty said:
What if their dislike was formed from their religious teachings or upbringing?
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That very well could be the case. I didn't see anything in the article that mentioned this. Did I miss something?
 
Shooter said:
Yeah, that Albert Einstein was a real moron. So was Isaac Newton, Copernicus, DaVinci, Rembrandt, Descarte, Kepler, Galileo, and Kieerkegaard. They all believed in that "mythical supernatural being" called God, so I guess they must have been totally out of their minds.
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Or cowards.

Einstein was a fervent Atheist and made no bones about it, and without researching the others I'll add the thought that atheism was punishable by death during most of these people's lifetimes (see Galileo), and employment depended on it. There was no such thing as Freedom of Speech. Most atheists did not dare to admit it, so we'll never really know who believed what back then.
 
Interestingly, there is nothing in the article that would keep somebody from starting an equally ridiculous thread with the title: "Atheist Zealots strike again!"
 
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