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I think a lot around here have forgotten. I think he can really help us next season. When he got run, he was instant offense. Has a lot to work on, but I really hope he comes back healthy. Too bad he won't be able to play in Vegas this summer.
 
I like him OK, but we've seen so little. It makes it pretty difficult to A. project just what he can do as a regular contributor and B. project if he can even stay healthy enough to find out.
 
Williams is the reason I dont' want to draft Beal. Dunno if he can stay healthy but the impressed with little minutes. Don't forget that the blazers raved about his work ethic this summer and LA said he was one of the most driven players he had ever worked out with.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I like him OK, but we've seen so little. It makes it pretty difficult to A. project just what he can do as a regular contributor and B. project if he can even stay healthy enough to find out.
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Thats the big question because he had injuries in college and now in the NBA. He has a great work ethic and drive so I would like to see what we have in him but we could be headed for an Eric Gordan type player who misses 1/3rd of the games every year.
 
Man Gordon showed he is just fine the last week of the season huh? He will get paid this summer..... wonder why more people aren't talking about him?
 
HCP said:
Man Gordon showed he is just fine the last week of the season huh? He will get paid this summer..... wonder why more people aren't talking about him?
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I have posted before that I watched quite a few of his games live last year and came away a believer. He is an all star IMO. He is no Ben Gordon. I am no doctor so I do not know about the effects from his injuries, but behind DWill he is my #1 FA choice. He can flat out shoot and would take pressure off LMA and Batum.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I have posted before that I watched quite a few of his games live last year and came away a believer. He is an all star IMO. He is no Ben Gordon. I am no doctor so I do not know about the effects from his injuries, but behind DWill he is my #1 FA choice. He can flat out shoot and would take pressure off LMA and Batum.
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He has missed on avg 66 games every year. He is damn good but a huge health risk and still needs to prove he can defend not just gamble and go for steals.
 
I think Gordon is so good on the offensive end, I would put up with his weak D. Not too many guys out there dominating on both ends.
 
This thread illustrates how everyone forgets Elliot Williams!
 
Rhal said:
He has missed on avg 66 games every year. He is damn good but a huge health risk and still needs to prove he can defend not just gamble and go for steals.
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His first 3 years he missed 4, 20, 26 games. Not great but nothing that will have lasting effects. ( not sure about this year's injruy) He is 23 years old. He can play D. He just usually waits until the end of games like most players. He is short but strong for his position. He can get off the floor . I have seen some awesome dunks. But the main thing is he can shoot from anywhere.
 
Eric Gordon is an injury waiting to happen. Perfect fit for the Blazers, and I expect them to go after him hard
 
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Mediocre Man said:
Eric Gordon is an injury waiting to happen. Perfect fir for the Blazers, and I expect them to go after him hard
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And here is the scary thing about Gordon ... he could potentially have injuries ... with OUR training staff. If that isnt scary then I dont know what is! I really do like his game but Im not sure how much more injuries I can take.
 
Boise Blazer said:
And here is the scary thing about Gordon ... he could potentially have injuries ... with OUR training staff. If that isnt scary then I dont know what is! I really do like his game but Im not sure how much more injuries I can take.
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I thin kthe Blazers would be best served not bring in FA's, draft picks or trading for guys with injury history or high potential for injury
 
Mediocre Man said:
I thin kthe Blazers would be best served not bring in FA's, draft picks or trading for guys with injury history or high potential for injury
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Good thing Derick Rose is not a free agent. We would have to tell him sorry dude.
Better pass on Dwill too. He is starting to break down.
We need to give all our money to Andre Miller.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Good thing Derick Rose is not a free agent. We would have to tell him sorry dude.
Better pass on Dwill too. He is starting to break down.
We need to give all our money to Andre Miller.
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If you feel the need to be a smart ass then fine, but how has it worked out for us so far?

Rose and DWill have won what again?
 
HCP said:
I think a lot around here have forgotten. I think he can really help us next season. When he got run, he was instant offense. Has a lot to work on, but I really hope he comes back healthy. Too bad he won't be able to play in Vegas this summer.
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I was super bummed he got hurt just before his minutes would have increased dramatically, I have not forgotten as he has big time potential
 
Sadly, I fear that E-Will's (style of play) + (his slight build) = (injury-plagued career). But I hope not.
 
I really think E Will (pending no injuries) can be something very special in the NBA. So far, he hasn't proven that he can stay healthy in college or the NBA. No wonder he dropped to us. I am seriously crossing my fingers on this guy.
 
Mediocre Man said:
If you feel the need to be a smart ass then fine, but how has it worked out for us so far?

Rose and DWill have won what again?
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My point is you can't eliminate players because they have had injuries. Yes of course there are those with huge red flags that it would be wise to stay away from. (Those who have had micro fracture surgery on their knees) But you can't guess on who MAY get injured. Many people thought Durrant's frail body had a bigger chance of breaking down before Oden's. Dejuan Blair has not missed a game in three seasons. You just never know. I would not write off Eric Gordon.
 
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My point is you can't eliminate players because they have had injuries. Yes of course there are those with huge red flags that it would be wise to stay away from. (Those who have had micro fracture surgery on their knees) But you can't guess on who MAY get injured. Many people thought Durrant's frail body had a bigger chance of breaking down before Oden's. e Dejuan Blair has not missed a game in three seasons. You just never know. I would not write off Eric Gordon.
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I look at Gordon and see a guy who played in 95% of his games, then 75% of his games, then 68% of his games, and finally this last year played in only 13% of his games. This last one due to a knee injury that required surgery.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I look at Gordon and see a guy who played in 95% of his games, then 75% of his games, then 68% of his games, and finally this last year played in only 13% of his games. This last one due to a knee injury that required surgery.
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So we are back to the Rose and DWill scenario. I would still sign Rose coming off his upcoming knee surgery. You would obviously pass.

Eric Gordon had arthroscopic surgery this season to clean up his right knee, he came back and still averaged 20 pts a game. I would certainly give him a thorough examination and I would not give him a max deal, but I would still pay him.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
My point is you can't eliminate players because they have had injuries. Yes of course there are those with huge red flags that it would be wise to stay away from. (Those who have had micro fracture surgery on their knees) But you can't guess on who MAY get injured. Many people thought Durrant's frail body had a bigger chance of breaking down before Oden's. Dejuan Blair has not missed a game in three seasons. You just never know. I would not write off Eric Gordon.
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Actually I think you can ... especially guys with major knee injuries.
 
Let's see....Elliot Williams...

Shown some good offensive ability in limited time....

Undersized for the shooting guard position....

Can't stay healthy.....

So here is the problem with some of the fans here and apparently POR mgmt....This is not a player that you want to have to count on for production....Therefore if he does stay healthy and if he does con tinue to show good offensive ability or more with consistent minutes, then the team overall is better for it....

b\c you didn't base your strategy on a bunch of fucking what if's.....

Instead you went out and drafted or acquired a SG or S and moved Batum to SG and then anything that E.Williams gives you is gravy....

THAT is how you build winning teams....Not by plugging a bunch of what if's into holes and hoping they work out....
 
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