Politics Reopening schools

[Lanny]

Until they start spiking again.

That has nothing to do with my question.
I asked how long did Cuomo return the ill elderly to nursing homes for their care while being treated and while recovering from Covid-19?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

That has nothing to do with my question.
I asked how long did Cuomo return the ill elderly to nursing homes for their care while being treated and while recovering from Covid-19?

You weren't specific.

My answer is "I don't know. Enough to where NY has by far the most number of coronavirus deaths by a significant margin".

 

[CupWizier]

Hey, he did it for nursing homes and the elderly.

Cuomo is an equal opportunity killer!

Do you ever get tired of trolling?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Do you ever get tired of trolling?

So open the schools?

I'm totally against it.

 

[Lanny]

You weren't specific.

My answer is "I don't know. Enough to where NY has by far the most number of coronavirus deaths by a significant margin".

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I thought I didn't need to be specific since that was the subject of the post I was responding to.
"Hey, he did it for nursing homes and the elderly."

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I thought I didn't need to be specific since that was the subject of the post I was responding to.
"Hey, he did it for nursing homes and the elderly."

I also linked a story about schools planning to open in NY.

 

[CupWizier]

So open the schools?

I'm totally against it.

did I mention anything about schools? NO

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

did I mention anything about schools? NO

Well, this is the "reopening schools" thread.

 

[Lanny]

I also linked a story about schools planning to open in NY.

Your lead sentence ought to have given you a clue.

 

[Minstrel]

So that principal was rewarding the two students by taking them out of a dangerous situation? Good work!

 

[CupWizier]

Well, this is the "reopening schools" thread.

and once again, I NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT REOPENING SCHOOLS IN MY RESPONSE.

Hopefully you can now UNDERSTAND, but didn't think it really needed explaining, unless you are just here trolling. Have a nice day.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[e_blazer]

He's absolutely right. The only thing that would be worse is opening the schools...in areas that aren't ready for the schools to be reopened. So far, that's looking like most of the country.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

He's absolutely right. The only thing that would be worse is opening the schools...in areas that aren't ready for the schools to be reopened. So far, that's looking like most of the country.

They need to just adjust to the times. thousands of kids dying and COVID spreading like wildfire would hurt the economy too.

Just take a fucking knee on life until this shit passes or they develop real solutions to keep everyone safe (which they haven't).

If the kids get a gap year, so fucking what.

 

[e_blazer]

They need to just adjust to the times. thousands of kids dying and COVID spreading like wildfire would hurt the economy too.

Just take a fucking knee on life until this shit passes or they develop real solutions to keep everyone safe (which they haven't).

If the kids get a gap year, so fucking what.

Exactly. It sucks for everyone, but recent studies have shown that why kids generally don't get very sick, they're excellent virus breeders and transmitters. Unless the virus is really under control to the extent that contact-tracing can track down new outbreaks, I can't imagine any single action that we could take that would make COVID spread faster and wider than reopening schools.

 

[wizenheimer]

yeah, compared to the dangers of the pandemic, I really don't see the giant issue of kids being a year behind where they'd normally be. And if they get online instruction, they wouldn't be that far behind

of course, when my son was 18 if he had spent another month at home before leaving for college, I would have killed him...or myself

 

[wizenheimer]

if we want to get kids back in the classroom we need to get them off the beach




and if you ask what that has to do with schools, you just didn't go the the right one

 

[lawai'a]

Kamehameha Schools’ Hawai‘i Island Campus Issues Lockdown
Kamehameha Schools’ Hawai‘i Island Campus in Kea‘au went into lockdown Wednesday morning after a high school student there tested positive for coronavirus, Big Island Now has learned.

this is the Native Hawaiian private school system, and here on the big island. seems they did a very good job establishing and following protocols to keep the students and community safe after discovering the first case on campus. The public school system has opted to 100% distance learning program that will be revisited after the first 4 weeks. the article lists the step by step procedures that were followed in this instance.

https://bigislandnow.com/2020/08/12...campus-issues-lockdown/#.XzVxzTFIo7M.email<br

 

[SlyPokerDog]

School District Making Parents Sign Waiver Agreeing Not To Monitor Virtual Instruction

A school district in Tennessee is asking parents to sign a form agreeing not to monitor their children’s virtual classrooms over concerns that “non-student observers” could overhear confidential information.

The form, a copy of which was sent to the Tennessee Star, reads: “RCS strives to present these opportunities in a secure format that protects student privacy to the greatest extent possible, however, because these meetings will occur virtually RCS is limited in its ability to fully control certain factors such as non-student observers that may be present in the home of a student participating in the virtual meeting.”


The agreement goes on to “strongly discourage” “non-student observation of online meetings due to the potential of confidential information about a student being revealed,” and while it does not specifically say that parents may not be present while their child is participating in virtual instruction, it does say that a “violation of this agreement may result in RCS removing my child from the virtual meeting.”

The agreement, of course, raised parents’ interest, according to the Tennessee Star, particularly given that the agreement implied items of interest might be being discussed in classrooms without parents’ knowledge.

In an email to parents sent earlier this week, the Rutherford School District said that they’re taking parents’ concerns under advisement.


“We are aware of the concern that has been raised about this distance-learning letter that was sent to parents,” a spokesperson told the Star. “The intent was not to prevent parents from being involved with their children during distance learning, but it was intended to protect the academic privacy of other students in the classroom who are visible during certain virtual class sessions.”

Instead, the school district is now instructing parents not to record virtual instruction to view later.

“We have issued new guidance to principals that parents can assist their children during virtual group lessons with permission of the instructor but should refrain from sharing or recording any information about other students in the classroom,” the spokesperson added.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/scho...W4-OB9__phqUh0mDkv1Y9dxWYTV3STkA2Whd1LYSDUQ4s

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

yeah, compared to the dangers of the pandemic, I really don't see the giant issue of kids being a year behind where they'd normally be. And if they get online instruction, they wouldn't be that far behind

of course, when my son was 18 if he had spent another month at home before leaving for college, I would have killed him...or myself

Im not saying to open schools but this stuff is going to set kids back a heck of a lot more than 1 year. Even in the ‘best’ situations for kids in public schools with parents with the means to keep them on track sort of schools are woefully ill prepared for online learning. Then you have the situations where kids are just off the radar completely, or kids who get to be at home all day w/ no supervision and arent being taught at all. This is a freaking disaster for this generation, especially as a majority of younger kids need repetition. We already had a weird school year in the US that made it so the first month or so is reminding kids of what they learned the year before. There will be a lot of kids left behind that never catch up.
Again not saying fling the doors open and caution to the wind, but as a parent I tend to mingle with many other parents who have school age kids and while there is some worry about COVID obviously, there is also a really big concern about how much of a kids ‘formative’ years can basically be left to ‘hope’ their parent(s) are in a good enough situation to make their children do school work.

Some districts seem to be pretty prepared for online learning then others, so hopefully more can catch up.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Im not saying to open schools but this stuff is going to set kids back a heck of a lot more than 1 year. Even in the ‘best’ situations for kids in public schools with parents with the means to keep them on track sort of schools are woefully ill prepared for online learning. Then you have the situations where kids are just off the radar completely, or kids who get to be at home all day w/ no supervision and arent being taught at all. This is a freaking disaster for this generation, especially as a majority of younger kids need repetition. We already had a weird school year in the US that made it so the first month or so is reminding kids of what they learned the year before. There will be a lot of kids left behind that never catch up.
Again not saying fling the doors open and caution to the wind, but as a parent I tend to mingle with many other parents who have school age kids and while there is some worry about COVID obviously, there is also a really big concern about how much of a kids ‘formative’ years can basically be left to ‘hope’ their parent(s) are in a good enough situation to make their children do school work.

Some districts seem to be pretty prepared for online learning then others, so hopefully more can catch up.

The public school education sector has been a massive failure to their students for many years and COVID-19 is widening the learning gap.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

School District Making Parents Sign Waiver Agreeing Not To Monitor Virtual Instruction

A school district in Tennessee is asking parents to sign a form agreeing not to monitor their children’s virtual classrooms over concerns that “non-student observers” could overhear confidential information.

The form, a copy of which was sent to the Tennessee Star, reads: “RCS strives to present these opportunities in a secure format that protects student privacy to the greatest extent possible, however, because these meetings will occur virtually RCS is limited in its ability to fully control certain factors such as non-student observers that may be present in the home of a student participating in the virtual meeting.”


The agreement goes on to “strongly discourage” “non-student observation of online meetings due to the potential of confidential information about a student being revealed,” and while it does not specifically say that parents may not be present while their child is participating in virtual instruction, it does say that a “violation of this agreement may result in RCS removing my child from the virtual meeting.”

The agreement, of course, raised parents’ interest, according to the Tennessee Star, particularly given that the agreement implied items of interest might be being discussed in classrooms without parents’ knowledge.

In an email to parents sent earlier this week, the Rutherford School District said that they’re taking parents’ concerns under advisement.


“We are aware of the concern that has been raised about this distance-learning letter that was sent to parents,” a spokesperson told the Star. “The intent was not to prevent parents from being involved with their children during distance learning, but it was intended to protect the academic privacy of other students in the classroom who are visible during certain virtual class sessions.”

Instead, the school district is now instructing parents not to record virtual instruction to view later.

“We have issued new guidance to principals that parents can assist their children during virtual group lessons with permission of the instructor but should refrain from sharing or recording any information about other students in the classroom,” the spokesperson added.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/scho...W4-OB9__phqUh0mDkv1Y9dxWYTV3STkA2Whd1LYSDUQ4s

Unfortunately the twitter thread they deleted told us why the teachers want parents not involved....
https://www.newsbreak.com/pennsylva...ative-parents-listening-in-on-virtual-classes

Conservative or not an adult wanting to talk about sex and all that with my kids and worried I might hear it. You just sound like a sexual predator at that point.

 

[Lanny]

Im not saying to open schools but this stuff is going to set kids back a heck of a lot more than 1 year. Even in the ‘best’ situations for kids in public schools with parents with the means to keep them on track sort of schools are woefully ill prepared for online learning. Then you have the situations where kids are just off the radar completely, or kids who get to be at home all day w/ no supervision and arent being taught at all. This is a freaking disaster for this generation, especially as a majority of younger kids need repetition. We already had a weird school year in the US that made it so the first month or so is reminding kids of what they learned the year before. There will be a lot of kids left behind that never catch up.
Again not saying fling the doors open and caution to the wind, but as a parent I tend to mingle with many other parents who have school age kids and while there is some worry about COVID obviously, there is also a really big concern about how much of a kids ‘formative’ years can basically be left to ‘hope’ their parent(s) are in a good enough situation to make their children do school work.

Some districts seem to be pretty prepared for online learning then others, so hopefully more can catch up.

It most definitely is a disaster but it still beats the alternative.