"Repicking the 2010 Draft"

[Rastapopoulos]

Davis rises, Aminu falls.

(I question their methodology, especially putting Monroe over Wall.)

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Why the fuck did monroe choose the bucks over us? Why do people choose shit organization over us constantly? Is portland really that boring or is paul allen a dick?

 

[Eastoff]

Why the fuck did monroe choose the bucks over us? Why do people choose shit organization over us constantly? Is portland really that boring or is paul allen a dick?

The bucks are good.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Why the fuck did monroe choose the bucks over us? Why do people choose shit organization over us constantly? Is portland really that boring or is paul allen a dick?

The bucks will be in the playoffs next year based on the stats and numbers of the east. If they play well, they will contend for the conference in my opinion.
Besides, LMA probably told Monroe to not waste his time, he was leaving regardless.

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

Without Aldridge on the team, the Bucks became the better choice. It might have been true even if LMA had stayed.

 

[PDXFonz]

Without Aldridge on the team, the Bucks became the better choice. It might have been true even if LMA had stayed.

Ridiculous.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

The bucks have a good young team, and have an easier road to get deep into the playoffs than Portland did with or without lma. From a talent standpoint with lma, Wes and batum back we would be better, but that doesbt necessarily mean we would have been able to get deeper into the playoffs

 

[Mediocre Man]

How is Milwaukee a shit organization and we're not

 

[ripcityboy]

Why the fuck did monroe choose the bucks over us? Why do people choose shit organization over us constantly? Is portland really that boring or is paul allen a dick?

Yeah. The inability of the Blazers to draw free agents puts a furrow in our collective brow. Even the Portland Timbers have trouble getting football players to come here. I think players like to be "seen" both in the media and at the clubs. Portland is a very discreet town. Celebrities own residences here when they want to "chill out." That relaxed mentality may carry a stigma with potential free agents... IDK, I am just guessing.

 

[stampedehero]

Why the fuck did monroe choose the bucks over us? Why do people choose shit organization over us constantly? Is portland really that boring or is paul allen a dick?

> Portland is cool. Choose B. Besides, Milwaukee needs a few black people for diversity.

 

[jlprk]

Why the fuck did monroe choose the bucks over us? Why do people choose shit organization over us constantly? Is portland really that boring or is paul allen a dick?

In threads about Monroe over the last couple of years, half of the posters here bitterly opposed getting him. They said sarcastically that he is bad at defense, etc. I was one of less than a handful who wanted him from the beginning. Only this summer did his advocates rise to a majority.

But Olshey simply wanted to gut the team, like the Sterling Clippers where he cut his teeth, so I don't think the massive opposition here to Monroe was the reason for Olshey neglecting him.

 

[Orion Bailey]

In threads about Monroe over the last couple of years, half of the posters here opposed getting him. They said he is bad at defense, etc. I was one of less than a handful who wanted him from the beginning. Only this summer did his advocates rise a little above the majority.

But Olshey simply wanted to gut the team, like the Sterling Clippers where he cut his teeth, so I don't think the massive opposition here to Monroe was the reason for Olshey neglecting him.

But didn't we offer him a max? NO didn't neglect him, he turned us down.

 

[handiman]

Why the fuck did monroe choose the bucks over us? Why do people choose shit organization over us constantly? Is portland really that boring or is paul allen a dick?

Portland sucks. "Weird" doesn't appeal to pro athletes.

 

[jlprk]

But didn't we offer him a max? NO didn't neglect him, he turned us down.

You fell for that? Olshey was fooling.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Portland sucks. "Weird" doesn't appeal to pro athletes.

Tell that to Channing Frye. Or Robin Lopez.

Meanwhile Utah is building a better team than Milwaukee OR Portland, and what's the appeal of SLC to "pro athletes"?

 

[Orion Bailey]

You fell for that? Olshey was fooling.

How do you fool when you offer as max? You think NO would actually do that if he didn't want him? What if Monroe said yes then?

Unless I just fell for you and not NO!... crap...

 

[Sedatedfork]

This draft was KP's parting gift. Thanks for the turd sandwich.

 

[ThugginPaulyGAllen]

Wall, Cousins should be top two

 

[handiman]

Tell that to Channing Frye. Or Robin Lopez.

Neither stuck around particularly long nor was all that sad to leave. Players usually say the right thing when they arrive, but even the goofiest two examples you could come up with were short-lived matches. Portland of the last 10-15 years isn't very appealing, and not surprisingly, you have to go back a ways to the Buck Williams / Brian Grant / Chris Dudley types to find guys who genuinely liked what the region had to offer, beyond just paying it lip service.

Meanwhile Utah is building a better team than Milwaukee OR Portland, and what's the appeal of SLC to "pro athletes"?

I'll leave that to the people who know SLC...

 

[Rastapopoulos]

The Greatest European Player of All Time played his entire NBA career in Portland, so it clearly has some appeal. Maybe we should be targeting Euro players a bit more, and a bit more effectively. Both Utah and Milwaukee have found young cornerstones that way.

 

[PDXFonz]

The bucks have a good young team, and have an easier road to get deep into the playoffs than Portland did with or without lma. From a talent standpoint with lma, Wes and batum back we would be better, but that doesbt necessarily mean we would have been able to get deeper into the playoffs

East has gotten a lot stronger, and it's not going to be the joke it has been. The talent is out there, and it won't be long until the East is as tough as the west. I cant wait to watch the top notch basketball which that much competition brings.

It has been a great offseason. Fantasy drafts are going to be fun this year!

 

[handiman]

The Greatest European Player of All Time played his entire NBA career in Portland, so it clearly has some appeal. Maybe we should be targeting Euro players a bit more, and a bit more effectively. Both Utah and Milwaukee have found young cornerstones that way.

1) Sabas played basically the twilight of his career here.

2) He owed the Blazers a pretty big debt for being his only source of quality medical attention for years. It's difficult to imagine another player carrying that sort of loyalty.

3) He was in the earlier, pre-Portland absolutely sucks window I previously mentioned.

4) We haven't done so well with the Spaniards, Argentenians, British, Yugoslavians or wherever Drazen was from, and now even the French.

 

[blue9]

East has gotten a lot stronger, and it's not going to be the joke it has been. The talent is out there, and it won't be long until the East is as tough as the west.

I will be SHOCKED if the East ever stacks up against the West. Sure, a team like the Bucks seems to be on the rise...but as one rises another sets (CHI, ATL?). The East will always be a top-heavy conference with 2-4 teams contributing meaningfully to the NBA, while the rest of the conference just takes up space.

 

[Orion Bailey]

The Greatest European Player of All Time played his entire NBA career in Portland, so it clearly has some appeal. Maybe we should be targeting Euro players a bit more, and a bit more effectively. Both Utah and Milwaukee have found young cornerstones that way.

MWWAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A European [player played his career in Portland and so clearly it has appeal? Listen, I am not down on Ptown like some are, but this is a foolish rational.

First, he only played for what... 6, 7 years?
Second you said it yourself. He is European, he doesn't know the details of the cities in the US. Find an AMERICAN born NBA player and make that statement and then it will hold some cred.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Tell that to Channing Frye. Or Robin Lopez.

Meanwhile Utah is building a better team than Milwaukee OR Portland, and what's the appeal of SLC to "pro athletes"?

Multiple wives???

BNM

 

[Rastapopoulos]

1) Sabas played basically the twilight of his career here.

So? You know he wasn't allowed out of the Soviet Union for his prime years, right? And besides, once he got here and was good, other teams wanted him but we kept him.

2) He owed the Blazers a pretty big debt for being his only source of quality medical attention for years. It's difficult to imagine another player carrying that sort of loyalty.

This is (a) speculation and (b) silly.

3) He was in the earlier, pre-Portland absolutely sucks window I previously mentioned.

I don't get this "Portland absolutely sucks" business. Sucks why? You think there are no Black Hipsters? You seriously think it's worse than Oklahoma City? Salt Lake City? Or any NBA city that isn't LA, NY or maybe Chicago? NBA players are obscenely rich: when you're obscenely rich it really doesn't matter where you play.

4) We haven't done so well with the Spaniards, Argentenians, British, Yugoslavians or wherever Drazen was from, and now even the French.

Define "done well". If we're talking "got them to play for us" then we have done very well. If we're talking "managed to acquire the truly great players from those country", not so well (except maybe Drazen, but we needed Buck more than we needed another shooting guard). Name me one player of the nationalities that you listed (you didn't list Turkey) that we targeted in free agency and failed to get, or that we lost in free agency when we wanted them to stay.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Multiple wives???

BNM

Actually, if John Amaechi is to be believed, a pretty thriving gay scene.

 

[Orion Bailey]

So? You know he wasn't allowed out of the Soviet Union for his prime years, right? And besides, once he got here and was good, other teams wanted him but we kept him.



This is (a) speculation and (b) silly.



I don't get this "Portland absolutely sucks" business. Sucks why? You think there are no Black Hipsters? You seriously think it's worse than Oklahoma City? Salt Lake City? Or any NBA city that isn't LA, NY or maybe Chicago? NBA players are obscenely rich: when you're obscenely rich it really doesn't matter where you play.



Define "done well". If we're talking "got them to play for us" then we have done very well. If we're talking "managed to acquire the truly great players from those country", not so well (except maybe Drazen, but we needed Buck more than we needed another shooting guard). Name me one player of the nationalities that you listed (you didn't list Turkey) that we targeted in free agency and failed to get, or that we lost in free agency when we wanted them to stay.

So you answered all of the doubters but my post.

Again, when did Sabonis have time to study, travel, grow up in the states to know what different cities are like.

Also, what I bolded above: I am pretty sure they absolutely care to some extent. They care whether the city has a team poised to be contending. They care about the cold air and weather that stiffens the bones and makes it harder to warm up and get loose. AND, with the NBA being more Hollywood than ever before, I am pretty sure they do care about where they can get the most attention. ( this last part has been a topic of past and probably doesn't matter as much anymore compared to the first two things I listed.

In the end, to say that Sabonis WANTED to be in Portland, is pretty much speculation too is it not? Do you have a quote or interview where he stated this? If not, then your posts are moot in this matter.

 

[jlprk]

Ameche preferred France to Portland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slightly_French

 

[Boob-No-More]

(except maybe Drazen, but we needed Buck more than we needed another shooting guard).

??? We didn't trade Drazen for Buck. We traded Sam Bowie for Buck. Drazen and Buck were teammates the entire time Drazen was in Portland. We traded Drazen in a 3-team deal with NJN and DEN that netted us Walter Davis a year and a half after we got Buck from the Nets.

BNM