Report: Details of Blazers' offer for Paul George revealed

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Kind of surprised nobody is discussing the merits of the trade from a Blazers' perspective. Would we really expect George to re-sign after a season? Isn't that pretty optimistic so soon after we lost Aldridge? Can you imagine what it'd be like for the next decade looking at Collins in some other jersey while George moves on to LA? Ugh.

I feel like we'll look back on this as dodging a major bullet.

Well I was thinking about it and if George going to LA was such a sure thing, don't you think KPee would have wanted to take our assets and watch us suffer when George bails?
 
Well, yeah, that IS a Pacer forum. Thanks....

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Not really sure. Must be off my IP. They didn't even bother sending the typical confirmation email. POW, you're banned.... Kinda funny in a way.

Weak. Well when you find a good one, don't just make a post but will you make a respectable thread? I'd like to see what they really think about it.
 
Weak. Well when you find a good one, don't just make a post but will you make a respectable thread? I'd like to see what they really think about it.
Yeah, that was my idea. Not to troll them (well, maybe a smidge). It actually does look like a decent site. Shoot, they had 1600+ posts in their thread discussing it. I sent them an email, but I don't really expect a reply. VPN time....
 
Kind of surprised nobody is discussing the merits of the trade from a Blazers' perspective. Would we really expect George to re-sign after a season? Isn't that pretty optimistic so soon after we lost Aldridge? Can you imagine what it'd be like for the next decade looking at Collins in some other jersey while George moves on to LA? Ugh.

I feel like we'll look back on this as dodging a major bullet.

I don't think we'd be watching Collins that much because we wouldn't have traded up to ten to be able to draft Collins if we traded our picks for PG13.
 
Humm. That one didn't work out so good for me. I didn't even get a chance to post anything.....

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Lol. On to the next.....
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Humm. That one didn't work out so good for me. I didn't even get a chance to post anything.....

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Lol. On to the next.....
Where did you post it?
 
Kind of surprised nobody is discussing the merits of the trade from a Blazers' perspective. Would we really expect George to re-sign after a season? Isn't that pretty optimistic so soon after we lost Aldridge? Can you imagine what it'd be like for the next decade looking at Collins in some other jersey while George moves on to LA? Ugh.

I feel like we'll look back on this as dodging a major bullet.

Yes, I absolutely believe had we landed Paul George we would have been able to resign him. Of course you have those type of discussions with him or his agent, prior to the trade - not specific contract discussions, but what his goals are and what he wants to achieve. Paul George has said all along he wants to play for a contender. He was happy in IND when they were pushing the Heat to 7 games and has said all along he would re-sign with IND if they could build a team capable of contending. Trust me, I'm from Indiana and visit there often. If he can be happy playing for a contender in Indiana, he would be thrilled beyond belief to play for one in Portland.

And, I do believe adding Paul George to our current (well, pre-draft) roster with a full season of Nurk catapults us all the way to the 2nd seed in the West with a > 50% chance of trip to the WCF. Yes, GSW is still better on paper, and probably wins a series against us, but getting to the WCF against them qualifies as being a contender. But, that is year one. GSW's two best players would be 2 - 3 years older than ours, and they don't have a 22-year old as part of their core going forward. We would challenge them immediately and our core would continue to get better as their's ages and declines.

Paul George is one of the top 5 two way payers in the league - arguably one of the top 3 (after LeBron and Kawhi). With him, plus a full season of Nurk we would have been one of the top 3 teams in the league and the only one other than GSW or CLE to have any kind of shot at a title. Paul George is the kind of player that steps up his game in the playoffs. Yes, IND was swept by CLE, but George kept them in every game and his second best teammate in that series was Lance Stephenson, who had been waived by two teams with losing records during the regular season. Imagine how elated George would have been to have Dame, C.J., and Nurk helping him out in the playoffs.

So yeah, I think coming to POR and winning 55+ games and a deep playoff run, while watching the Lakers win 25 games and another trip to the lottery would have been enough to convince him he's better off re-signing here than pissing away his career babysitting the Laker teenagers.

As far as Pritchard goes, he seemed WAY more concerned with Paul George's future than that of his own team. He didn't want to trade George anywhere where he might re-sign and he definitely didn't want to trade him to BOS or CLE. The last one kind of makes since - if IND wasn't in full rebuild mode. The Pacers would have to face George four times a year and possibly in the playoffs, but most likely not any time soon.

If he indeed rejected that much better POR deal, he hurt his team's future. I already discussed the shit package he took fro OKC above (below average 25-year old on a hideous contract and an underwhelming rookie from the worst draft class in NBA history). That POR package would have really jump started IND's rebuild - Mo Harkless, a younger player than Olidipo, who is just as good
on a team friendly contract plus 3 first round picks in a very deep draft. That gives them one young starter in Harkless plus three shots at landing future starters in the draft, or the option to combine picks to move up. Yeah, Pritchard may have screwed Paul Allen and Neil Olshey, but in the end he screwed himself and the Pacers organization more. To me, being more worried about covering your own ass than getting the best possible return for your team is the kind of move that gets a GM fired. Not a good way to start the new job...

BNM
 
IMO If the Blazers didn't think they had a good shot at re-signing PG, they wouldn't have made the offer. I have a pretty good feeling that a season of kicking ass and great team chemistry with Dame, CJ, and Nurk would have sealed the deal.

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Well we beat OKC in 5 and if PG is on a different planet than CJ and we still won....then Dame must be a hell of a lot better than Russ........unless you think the rest of our team is vastly better than OKC's ( even without Nurk.)

PG btw could not stop CJ.
 
Well we beat OKC in 5 and if PG is on a different planet than CJ and we still won....then Dame must be a hell of a lot better than Russ........unless you think the rest of our team is vastly better than OKC's ( even without Nurk.)

PG btw could not stop CJ.

George was playing through an injury, but was OKCs best player this season and a legit MVP candidate. If we judged players’ value based off of one series, then what would we have gotten for our backcourt last year?
 
And some think it’s a no brainer that Olshey would offer CJ for AD lol.
Before Nurk turned into a potential anchor piece? It was, an elite big filling a need. Now? Straight up, I'd agonize over it, and would probably need a signed extension, or some considerations from the Pels and kill the deal by having too high an asking price. (Also, I honestly kind of want to see Jrue and CJ together, I think that'd be a scary awesome combo ... Maybe in the Olympics)
 
Well we beat OKC in 5 and if PG is on a different planet than CJ and we still won....then Dame must be a hell of a lot better than Russ........unless you think the rest of our team is vastly better than OKC's ( even without Nurk.)

PG btw could not stop CJ.

He was not ok since after the All star Break and it showed in the playoffs as well. He had surgery now and will even miss preseason.
 
The concept is the same. George would’ve been as much a game changer as AD. They’re both on a different planet than CJ.
To be fair, at the time of the trade George wasn't anywhere near as good as he played for most of this year. He took his game to a new level this year. A lot of people were starting to question just how good he really was in Indiana.

I'm not saying that makes you wrong because the results have proven your statement correct, but at the time of the trade I don't think George was necessarily "on a different planet" than CJ. The difference in size and defensive ability would be the only case to trade CJ for George.

CJ was coming off a season in which he averaged 23 points per game on 48/42/91 percentages and had already signed an extension that locked him up for 4 more seasons. I can't really blame a GM too much for not wanting to include him at that time for a guy who was a likely rental. Now this situation with AD is different. CJ hasn't played as well the last two seasons as he did in 2016-17 and now only has 2 years left until he can also become an unrestricted free agent.
 
And some think it’s a no brainer that Olshey would offer CJ for AD lol.
I'm one of those somebodies ;)

Times, and circumstances, change.

If Olshey doesn't at least offer, then yeah, I'm ordering a truck full of torches, kerosene, and pitchforks.

:cheers:
 

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