Notice Report: NBA sets framework for in-season tournament, eight-team knockout stage

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50 game seasons. Top 12 teams advance. Final 4 spots set by single game elimination tournament. Playoff series shortened to best of 5
 
The NBA will soon be like the Special Olympics, everyone gets a trophy.

And I'll still show up to the parade when the Blazers win the Week After Valentine's Day 6th Mini In-Season Championship!
 
KSF-ERIC said:
I don’t see why so many of you hate the idea of the games meaning more. A Christmas Day title game! This sounds like fun. Think of how much fun the bubble seeding games were. And I recently read that Dame’s Bubble MVP is actually an important credit to his HOF resume. I get it that a lot of you hate change, but 20 years from now, people will say “What? There used to be no inseason tournament? How awful.” Guys, it gives us something to win! Way more exciting than a division title.
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I literally have given ZERO thought about Dame’s Bubble MVP since it happened until you mentioned it lmao. I know my opinion doesn’t matter, but you can also easily read the opinion of someone else that doesn’t matter and use it to make your case.

Not saying Dame’s Bubble MVP doesn’t matter either. The Bubble happened because of a worldwide circumstance that happens like once a century—and we made the playoffs because of his performance. This is a random idea to make more money for the NBA. Dame winning $100k to his favorite charity every year in the middle of the season is going to enhance his HOF resume? Stop.

If the Clips had to choose between having Kawhi play 65 games a year or being the MVP of that random tournament, Clips are choosing the former 100 times out of 100.
 
If the logistics are done right, this has a potential to be good. I can see
handiman said:
I'd criticize it, but ... I don't even understand it.

I've got a hunch that'll be its general reception.
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Until we know all the logistical details, it's hard to definitively diss or approve of it. I'm keeping an open mind
 
The greats will aim for the hat trick- MVP, Finals MVP, Midseason MVP, and All Star MVP. It will be a whole new thing to aim for. For people who say this “random” in-season tournament won’t matter, I have news for you: NONE OF THIS MATTERS. The Championship in June means nothing. It’s all just for fun. We’ve just collectively decided the championship in June is what we want for our team. We can do the same with the mid-season tournament. It’s something else to win and that’s fun. It’s also a testing ground for how the team will do in postseason. If a team plays badly in in-season tournament, that may be an impetus for a trade. It’s also a chance for Dame to win a Christmas bonus for his lesser-paid teammates. And that’s a real thing that actually does matter.
 
beast crnjo said:
Nfl makes 5x the ad revenue and only play 17 games.
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The NFL is a different game with a different history and the Super Bowl. Cutting NBA games would reduce revenue and really hurt the nearby restaurants, arena-staff, all those people who got hurt by 2020 shutdown. Why would we voluntarily want to hurt those people’s livelihoods again?
 
KSF-ERIC said:
The greats will aim for the hat trick- MVP, Finals MVP, Midseason MVP, and All Star MVP. It will be a whole new thing to aim for. For people who say this “random” in-season tournament won’t matter, I have news for you: NONE OF THIS MATTERS. The Championship in June means nothing. It’s all just for fun. We’ve just collectively decided the championship in June is what we want for our team. We can do the same with the mid-season tournament. It’s something else to win and that’s fun. It’s also a testing ground for how the team will do in postseason. If a team plays badly in in-season tournament, that may be an impetus for a trade. It’s also a chance for Dame to win a Christmas bonus for his lesser-paid teammates. And that’s a real thing that actually does matter.
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I mean I get what you’re saying, but the “none of this matters” argument is actually really lame. We get that in a grand scheme of things in a world where people starve none of this matters, but wtf kind of argument is that to bring up in a sports forum?

It’s actually not true that the greats will aim for hat-trick MVPs, etc. Lebron would have joined the dunk contest if that were the case. In the 19 times Kareem was in the All Star game, he’s never won the All Star MVP. Barkley has said in more than one interview “we always try to get the guy that was from there or playing for the home city the MVP, but there’s always at least one dumbass who always tries to win the MVP every year”.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
The greats will aim for the hat trick- MVP, Finals MVP, Midseason MVP, and All Star MVP. It will be a whole new thing to aim for. For people who say this “random” in-season tournament won’t matter, I have news for you: NONE OF THIS MATTERS. The Championship in June means nothing. It’s all just for fun. We’ve just collectively decided the championship in June is what we want for our team. We can do the same with the mid-season tournament. It’s something else to win and that’s fun. It’s also a testing ground for how the team will do in postseason. If a team plays badly in in-season tournament, that may be an impetus for a trade. It’s also a chance for Dame to win a Christmas bonus for his lesser-paid teammates. And that’s a real thing that actually does matter.
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There are ways to make the tournament actually make it interesting, like playing for lotto odds and such. But playing for “to-be-determined prize” sounds like a tournament for nothing.
 
BankTeller said:
There are ways to make the tournament actually make it interesting, like playing for lotto odds and such. But playing for “to-be-determined prize” sounds like a tournament for nothing.
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Why would players care to play for lotto odds? So somebody can come in and try to take their jobs?
 
BankTeller said:
I mean I get what you’re saying, but the “none of this matters” argument is actually really lame. We get that in a grand scheme of things in a world where people starve none of this matters, but wtf kind of argument is that to bring up in a sports forum?

It’s actually not true that the greats will aim for hat-trick MVPs, etc. Lebron would have joined the dunk contest if that were the case. In the 19 times Kareem was in the All Star game, he’s never won the All Star MVP. Barkley has said in more than one interview “we always try to get the guy that was from there or playing for the home city the MVP, but there’s always at least one dumbass who always tries to win the MVP every year”.
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Haha. I remember the year Westbrook was that dumbass. On your previous point, I wasn’t talking in terms of world hunger. I was talking in the world of sports. It’s all neutral. We make up what matters.
 
BankTeller said:
There are ways to make the tournament actually make it interesting, like playing for lotto odds and such. But playing for “to-be-determined prize” sounds like a tournament for nothing.
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Lotto odds wouldn’t inspire the players. Money and/or playoff seeding would.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Lotto odds wouldn’t inspire the players. Money and/or playoff seeding would.
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How do you get a guaranteed playoff seeding only halfway through the season? That makes no sense. The team could then just pack it in the rest of the season.
 
I think people are making too big of a deal of this. If the players are playing the same amount of games and the league can make some of those games a little more meaningful... where is the harm??? That's the question I keep coming back to. At first might the midseason tournament feel small? Yeah, it probably will. However, as its tradition gains tenure it will start to mean something. It won't be the Finals but it will mean something to these players who are the ultimate competitors.

If teams can work their asses off and win two titles in one season that will mean more than teams that can only win the Finals going forward. That does add an extra wrinkle of interest and competition. Again the question is what does it hurt and what (as @KSF-ERIC pointed out) makes a midseason tournament any less or more silly than any of the other competitions so many of us enjoy???
 
Right now I don't really see a need for it. I am ok with change, as I like the play in games.
But this seems stupid. However, I need to hear everything explained in detail before I dismiss it.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
The NFL is a different game with a different history and the Super Bowl. Cutting NBA games would reduce revenue and really hurt the nearby restaurants, arena-staff, all those people who got hurt by 2020 shutdown. Why would we voluntarily want to hurt those people’s livelihoods again?
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Maybe one reason people get more excited about nfl games is that every game is cery important.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
The greats will aim for the hat trick- MVP, Finals MVP, Midseason MVP, and All Star MVP. It will be a whole new thing to aim for. For people who say this “random” in-season tournament won’t matter, I have news for you: NONE OF THIS MATTERS. The Championship in June means nothing. It’s all just for fun. We’ve just collectively decided the championship in June is what we want for our team. We can do the same with the mid-season tournament. It’s something else to win and that’s fun. It’s also a testing ground for how the team will do in postseason. If a team plays badly in in-season tournament, that may be an impetus for a trade. It’s also a chance for Dame to win a Christmas bonus for his lesser-paid teammates. And that’s a real thing that actually does matter.
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On this i can agree. This is entertainment and it's really all about having fun and watching your team win.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Not being a soccer guy, I don’t understand the significance of the in season tournament. If you win, who cares? If you do care, why?
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Sometimes there are miracles in such tournaments and teams from small towns make it really far and play against the biggest teams in the country. It's fun to watch an underdog make a cup run. However, there is no way for any of that to be replicated within US sports leagues. MLS participates in such a tournament, but the league doesn't take it too seriously, but some individual teams do though.
 
Would a mid season Cup play be before or after March Madness?
I heard that MM generates more ratings and dollars than NBA playoffs?
The NBA is a Marketing Machines with aggressive rating & revenue goals. They want some of that Madness viewership and sponsors.
 
Hoopguru said:
So would they still do an NBA All Star Game?
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If you look at the Shams tweet it seems like it's an early season tourney. He says the "Cup" games will go through November and then eight teams will play a single elimination tourney in December. I've read somewhere else that they are trying to have the championship game on or around Christmas so maybe teams will get to play a little bit of regular season ball before the "Cup" games start but maybe this is meant to really super charge the beginning of the season ratings. Then mid season you have All Star and trade deadline that will drum up interest. Then the race for the playoffs, followed by the playins and finally the playoffs themselves.

The only thing that seems weird is that you would have to have a two game gap where the NBA wouldn't know who your opponent is. 8 teams would play four games in the first round of the tourney and 4 teams would play two games in the second round, then the tourney championship would an extra game for the final two teams. That's not too big of a headache really.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Not being a soccer guy, I don’t understand the significance of the in season tournament. If you win, who cares? If you do care, why?
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I'm a "soccer guy" and still don't understand the in season tourneys.
 
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