Reports: Jamal Crawford draws trade interest

[BBert]

Please trade him. I'm begging. Among other reasons, we need to get value for him while we can. Same could be argued re Felton, Camby, Wallace.

http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/35101827

 

[Nikolokolus]

Sounds good to me. If the roadie goes the way I suspect it will, it'll probably be about time to see Nolan, Elliot and Babbitt get as many minutes as possible to see if they can actually contribute anything to an NBA team -- better to get those answers now instead of later.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I kind of like the idea of Ridnour and Randolph for Jamal (we'd have to probably toss in a second rounder to get Minny to agree).

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Keep Crawford. There's a reason to draw trade interest, he's a useful player.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Sounds good to me. If the roadie goes the way I suspect it will, it'll probably be about time to see Nolan, Elliot and Babbitt get as many minutes as possible to see if they can actually contribute anything to an NBA team -- better to get those answers now instead of later.

I can give you answers now: No, yes, no.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Keep Crawford. There's a reason to draw trade interest, he's a useful player.

Useful how? He's going to opt out at the end of the year and this team very much looks like a team about to miss the playoffs. I say get something for him now while you still can.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Useful how? He's going to opt out and this team very much looks like a team about to miss the playoffs. I say get something for him now while you still can.

He's a good player and a friend with Aldridge. Its likely the management/coaching that will cause him to opt out than anything. "getting something" isn't going to change the incompetence at the top. Nate will get fired if we don't make it past the first round, then we get stuck with guys who suck more than Crawford. I'd like to keep a Crawford-Batum-Aldridge core right now and build from there with a new coach.

 

[RR7]

Useful how? He's going to opt out at the end of the year and this team very much looks like a team about to miss the playoffs. I say get something for him now while you still can.

if we're indeed missing the playoffs, why then would we add ridnour? a 31 year old PG, so not a PGOTF type, and owed 4 and then 4.3 million the next 2 years.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

if we're indeed missing the playoffs, why then would we add ridnour? a 31 year old PG, so not a PGOTF type, and owed 4 and then 4.3 million the next 2 years.

"he's from Oregon!"
:MARIS61:

 

[e_blazer]

if we're indeed missing the playoffs, why then would we add ridnour? a 31 year old PG, so not a PGOTF type, and owed 4 and then 4.3 million the next 2 years.

He'd make a reliable backup to Blakey.

 

[Nikolokolus]

if we're indeed missing the playoffs, why then would we add ridnour? a 31 year old PG, so not a PGOTF type, and owed 4 and then 4.3 million the next 2 years.

With the assets we have do you really think we're going to be able to get a "PGOTF"? without some major sacrifices? I sure don't. Bottom line, is that at some point the Blazers are going to have find PGOTF via the draft and in the meantime they'll probably have to settle for stopgaps ... at least Ridnour is slightly more competent than Felton.

 

[BBert]

We have a glut at SG. A dirth at PG. And Crawford will not sign with Portland for next season. We need to git while the gittin's good.

 

[Minstrel]

Keep Crawford. There's a reason to draw trade interest, he's a useful player.

Keep Crawford if you can't get anything good for him. However, if you can convert Crawford's value (and I was against his signing, but he's actually been better than I expected and I do think he's been a valuable player this year) into equivalent future-focused value, I think you have to do it.

 

[RR7]

With the assets we have do you really think we're going to be able to get a "PGOTF"? without some major sacrifices? I sure don't. Bottom line, is that at some point the Blazers are going to have find PGOTF via the draft and in the meantime they'll probably have to settle for stopgaps ... at least Ridnour is slightly more competent than Felton.

I'm not thinking we have the assets to make a home run trade for a PGOTF. But that doesn't mean we should trade for Ridnour to take up 4 million in cap space AND give them a 2nd round pick. I'd rather he retire and force Nolan to run the point and see what we have instead of ridnour. It just makes no sense at all.

 

[Minstrel]

With the assets we have do you really think we're going to be able to get a "PGOTF"? without some major sacrifices? I sure don't. Bottom line, is that at some point the Blazers are going to have find PGOTF via the draft and in the meantime they'll probably have to settle for stopgaps ... at least Ridnour is slightly more competent than Felton.

You can trade for a fungible point guard like Ridnour at almost any time, so may as well do it after the imaginary cap space has been used, rather than cutting into it. I'm not a huge believer in the impact value of cap space (especially when you aren't a "destination franchise"), but it's still worth giving it the old college try and seeing if you can get lucky and sign a major free agent. If not, you can always go back to the Ridnour well later.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm not thinking we have the assets to make a home run trade for a PGOTF. But that doesn't mean we should trade for Ridnour to take up 4 million in cap space AND give them a 2nd round pick. I'd rather he retire and force Nolan to run the point and see what we have instead of ridnour. It just makes no sense at all.

I was thinking the second rounder would compensate Minny for giving up Randolph ... but maybe they don't want it? In any case, the team is going to have to pay someone to run the point for a couple of years and they aren't likely to be a destination for a high level free agent like Williams.

 

[Carlito]

So u wanna get back the clippers and twolves scrubs instead of him coming off the books to make all u whiners happy? Really smart!

 

[Carlito]

Oh and FYI without Jamal we would be about 7 games under 500

 

[Natebishop3]

I would rather he just opt out at the end of the summer and we get his cap space. Unless we can deal him for an expiring and a draft pick.

 

[RR7]

I was thinking the second rounder would compensate Minny for giving up Randolph ... but maybe they don't want it? In any case, the team is going to have to pay someone to run the point for a couple of years and they aren't likely to be a destination for a high level free agent like Williams.

their compensation for randolph would be crawford, so they have an actual SG instead of a PG playing there. If they don't want that, that's fine. I mean, if we're looking for crap stopgaps, then the felton for blake trade makes more sense than this one. Blake knows the offense, shoots a lot better, and is slightly cheaper. So why go with Ridnour for Crawford, when there's the slight possibility crawford has value for some actual future piece.

 

[Natebishop3]

Oh and FYI without Jamal we would be about 7 games under 500

Shit! Why didn't you say so? We should trade him right now. Improve that draft position!

 

[Minstrel]

So u wanna get back the clippers and twolves scrubs instead of him coming off the books to make all u whiners happy? Really smart!

You're starting to go back to your dark place, MIXUM.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

its also a great way to tell future free agents who choose less money to come to portland about what a short leash you have on them before dealing them for crap.

 

[Minstrel]

its also a great way to tell future free agents who choose less money to come to portland about what a short leash you have on them before dealing them for crap.

No worthwhile free agents are coming to Portland for less money. Crawford being traded at the deadline on a team going nowhere is not going to be important to future free agents anyway.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No worthwhile free agents are coming to Portland for less money. Crawford being traded at the deadline on a team going nowhere is not going to be important to future free agents anyway.

well, not anymore. he was offered more money in Sacramento IIRC.

To me, Portland needs to change its management before its players. probably not going to happen, but trades like this will have no real impact on anything.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Then what the fuck are they waiting for?


Somehow land Jennings from Milwaukee and see if he would fit with LA and Batum

 

[Minstrel]

well, not anymore. he was offered more money in Sacramento IIRC.

Crawford, IMO, is not a terribly significant free agent and he wasn't drawing huge interest. We could, of course, spend time debating what a "significant" free agent is, but to me it's one that you'd feel regretful if they decided to sign with another team. Crawford didn't (and doesn't) rise to that level for me.

To me, Portland needs to change its management before its players. probably not going to happen, but trades like this will have no real impact on anything.

I agree with that. There's no magic trade that will create a winning organization. Great organizations are based on great management. Acquiring talent is a byproduct of having the right people in charge.

 

[RR7]

Then what the fuck are they waiting for?


Somehow land Jennings from Milwaukee and see if he would fit with LA and Batum

Probably waiting to not have to take back mediocre contracts like Ridnour.

I'd be happy to add Jennings, and see how he went with them. If nothing else, he doesn't lack for confidence.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Probably waiting to not have to take back mediocre contracts like Ridnour.

I'd be happy to add Jennings, and see how he went with them. If nothing else, he doesn't lack for confidence.

The Blazers love mediocre. Look at their roster

 

[B-Roy]

Then what the fuck are they waiting for?


Somehow land Jennings from Milwaukee and see if he would fit with LA and Batum

I'd rather somehow add LeBron James. I think he's a better player.