Politics Republican Voters Against Trump

[kjironman1]

l...to be honest, I didn't know, but thanx for clarifying it...now I feel a little better...fwiw, I don't do the FB or Twitter thingy, just not my cup of tea.

...that might explain why I was duped...lol.

Yeah look him up. He is probably gonna make a living for a long time on this gig.

 

[kjironman1]

 

[kjironman1]

 

[PDXFonz]

Don't want to vote Biden, wanted to still vote for Bernie... Feel like I have to vote Biden... Still wanna vote Bernie... Biden is gonna win Oregon regardless, right?

 

[PDXFonz]

Man its fucked up because the way his supporters act I can't even tell if this is a joke or serious...

Oh okay I just went to their twitter. Well played sir, well played.

 

[kjironman1]

Man its fucked up because the way his supporters act I can't even tell if this is a joke or serious...

Oh okay I just went to their twitter. Well played sir, well played.

He's got like 40 of these since the virus hit. If i remember the first one had him in a park complaining the swings were shut down. The cough at the end has been the trademark.

 

[kjironman1]

Don't want to vote Biden, wanted to still vote for Bernie... Feel like I have to vote Biden... Still wanna vote Bernie... Biden is gonna win Oregon regardless, right?

Vote!
The popular vote numbers will come into play. There is more at stake than just the presidency. If Biden wins by an overwhelming majority nationwide there is reason to hold up a Supreme Court pick. Not that they will but eventually everything plays out.

 

[kjironman1]

If you are a senator sitting in a highly contested seat. How do you think you vote if the nation voted against your party? Decisions change with the way the election plays out.

 

[theprunetang]

If you are a senator sitting in a highly contested seat. How do you think you vote if the nation voted against your party? Decisions change with the way the election plays out.

We have been told by the right that "Elections have consequences". Or is that only when they are elected? Guess we will find out.

 

[yankeesince59]

Vote!
The popular vote numbers will come into play. There is more at stake than just the presidency. If Biden wins by an overwhelming majority nationwide there is reason to hold up a Supreme Court pick. Not that they will but eventually everything plays out.

Been saying essentially the same thing for months and was told by a couple people that their vote didn't really count because Oregon will vote heavily Democrat anyway...but there are more than just the POTUS to vote for this November.

Also if we really want Trump voted out of office, those like me, who are "independents", we need to vote for Biden even though he may not be out first choice. And though a vote for Bernie for example, doesn't hurt Biden, it doesn't help him either.


Regardless, like your reply and my signature says, "VOTE !!!" because it may be the most important thing you've done or will do in a long time.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Been saying essentially the same thing for months and was told by a couple people that their vote didn't really count because Oregon will vote heavily Democrat anyway...but there are more than just the POTUS to vote for this November.

Also if we really want Trump voted out of office, those like me, who are "independents", we need to vote for Biden even though he may not be out first choice. And though a vote for Bernie for example, doesn't hurt Biden, it doesn't help him either.


Regardless, like your reply and my signature says, "VOTE !!!" because it may be the most important thing you've done or will do in a long time.

I get what you’re saying but how did having over 3 million more popular votes than Trump help Hillary out in 2016? It just sends the message that the US electoral system is all fucked up and needs to be fixed. And that liberals and moderates in the swing states need to get off their whiny asses and actually vote. It’s about electoral votes, not the popular vote......I am one of those who told you it doesn’t really matter in Oregon who we vote for because it is guaranteed to go blue. That said, I will now vote for Biden if for no other reason than it’s a sharp stick in Trump’s Covid infested eye......

 

[kjironman1]

It just sends the message that the US electoral system is all fucked up and needs to be fixed.

This statement answers this question...

I get what you’re saying but how did having over 3 million more popular votes than Trump help Hillary out in 2016

Even more so if he wins by 10-15 million and the race is still close. It's time for the lines to be corrected at least?

 

[yankeesince59]

I get what you’re saying but how did having over 3 million more popular votes than Trump help Hillary out in 2016? It just sends the message that the US electoral system is all fucked up and needs to be fixed. And that liberals and moderates in the swing states need to get off their whiny asses and actually vote. It’s about electoral votes, not the popular vote......I am one of those who told you it doesn’t really matter in Oregon who we vote for because it is guaranteed to go blue. That said, I will now vote for Biden if for no other reason than it’s a sharp stick in Trump’s Covid infested eye......

I understand that, but in the end the reason Trump won is because of lower voter turnout mostly due to people of certain demographics not caring enough to actually bother to vote...Trump's base did, and they will again this November...and if the same people who didn't vote in 2016 again don't grasp the sense of urgency and vote next month, the electoral vote and the end result could very well be the same.

And like I also said, it's not just the POTUS vote at stake...state and local offices are nearly as important.

 

[lawai'a]

.state and local offices are nearly as important. they are more important after this year's census. undoing the gerrymandering of districts that republican state governments controlled after the last one. true voter suppression and the notion that all votes are of equal value in elections..

I understand that, but in the end the reason Trump won is because of lower voter turnout mostly due to people of certain demographics not caring enough to actually bother to vote...Trump's base did, and they will again this November...and if the same people who didn't vote in 2016 again don't grasp the sense of urgency and vote next month, the electoral vote and the end result could very well be the same.

And like I also said, it's not just the POTUS vote at stake...state and local offices are nearly as important.

 

[riverman]

I could see the Republicans against Trump making their party over and actually calling it the Lincoln Party, distancing themselves from the current GOP culture...would probably draw a lot of members who've had it with divorce court politics

 

[lawai'a]

I could see the Republicans against Trump making their party over and actually calling it the Lincoln Party, distancing themselves from the current GOP culture...would probably draw a lot of members who've had it with divorce court politics

a step in the right direction leaving behind the antiquated and non representative 2 party system. #compromisesingoverning

 

[lawai'a]

down with the "purity/litmus test" necessary in our two party system for candidates.

I could see the Republicans against Trump making their party over and actually calling it the Lincoln Party, distancing themselves from the current GOP culture...would probably draw a lot of members who've had it with divorce court politics

 

[Lanny]

If you are a senator sitting in a highly contested seat. How do you think you vote if the nation voted against your party? Decisions change with the way the election plays out.

Elections have consequence - Donald Trump

 

[Lanny]

I understand that, but in the end the reason Trump won is because of lower voter turnout mostly due to people of certain demographics not caring enough to actually bother to vote...Trump's base did, and they will again this November...and if the same people who didn't vote in 2016 again don't grasp the sense of urgency and vote next month, the electoral vote and the end result could very well be the same.

And like I also said, it's not just the POTUS vote at stake...state and local offices are nearly as important.

State and local offices may be critical but they don't hold a candle to the race for President.

 

[kjironman1]

Now he has stopped the Stimulus Talks so he can restart them and say he has given everyone a Stimulus.

 

[kjironman1]

Is there a more compelling argument ANYWHERE? This is the former director of the CIA under George Bush.

Please people get your head on straight!

 

[yankeesince59]

State and local offices may be critical but they don't hold a candle to the race for President.

Lanny, that's pretty much what I said.

 

[kjironman1]

State and local offices may be critical but they don't hold a candle to the race for President.

This is fundamentally incorrect. The decisions that effect your daily lives are controlled on the local level at a much higher degree. The President is the most visible yes but things like if you can use paper or plastic bags and taxes on your roads or schools are all about the local level.

 

[kjironman1]

Now he has stopped the Stimulus Talks so he can restart them and say he has given everyone a Stimulus.

Did i call this or what?

 

[kjironman1]

 

[kjironman1]

And then there is "Right to Work"

 

[lawai'a]

This is fundamentally incorrect. The decisions that effect your daily lives are controlled on the local level at a much higher degree. The President is the most visible yes but things like if you can use paper or plastic bags and taxes on your roads or schools are all about the local level.

and those local elections, in the context of redistricting/gerrymandering at the state level following the census will impact federal representation in the congress as well as state legislatures. remember it is the control of the state legislatures that have challenged the state executive branches during covid. this will also impact legislation and cases that states will bring before SCOTUS. hugely important, IMHO. the AG's of republican controlled states are the one's that brought the law suits trying to overturn/eliminate the ACA. those state legislatures are responsible for the laws governing elections and who gets to vote even in federal elections and how much weight it carries in relation to those included in the districts borders.. this is a form of voter suppresion that allows minority rule over the majority of citizens.

 

[kjironman1]

and those local elections, in the context of redistricting/gerrymandering at the state level following the census will impact federal representation in the congress as well as state legislatures. remember it is the control of the state legislatures that have challenged the state executive branches during covid. this will also impact legislation and cases that states will bring before SCOTUS. hugely important, IMHO. the AG's of republican controlled states are the one's that brought the law suits trying to overturn/eliminate the ACA. those state legislatures are responsible for the laws governing elections and who gets to vote even in federal elections and how much weight it carries in relation to those included in the districts borders.. this is a form of voter suppresion that allows minority rule over the majority of citizens.

Cannot Say ^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^ Enough!

 

[Lanny]

This is fundamentally incorrect. The decisions that effect your daily lives are controlled on the local level at a much higher degree. The President is the most visible yes but things like if you can use paper or plastic bags and taxes on your roads or schools are all about the local level.

Tell me this Ironman, if state and local offices are so important why do you write about the President so much and not about state and local offices?
No, the President determines life and death issues. People are dying because of him and a lot more will die when he erases Obama Care.

 

[kjironman1]

Tell me this Ironman, if state and local offices are so important why do you write about the President so much and not about state and local offices?
No, the President determines life and death issues. People are dying because of him and a lot more will die when he erases Obama Care.

People are dying because he is an idiot and they are following him.
The State issues the mandate on phase progression. The State is who fights for or against right to work. The State establishes your taxes and the State system of higher education runs your schools. Federal government issues are indeed very important but the one’s that effect your day to day life are decided here locally.
Vote!