Retired cop guns down man for texting at Florida movie

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Maybe he was pissed because he heard they're remaking Flight of the Navigator?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Where are you guys getting this "silhouette" part of the story? How do you know it was that dark?

Wook, I'm all for people being able to carry, and there are times when the shoot is justified, but this certainly doesn't sound like one of those times.

The shooter is going to have to justify why he feared for his life, AND he's going to have to justify why he couldn't just leave the situation.
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Florida. Stand your ground.
 
BlazerWookee said:
Or you're 71 and being physically intimidated by a young strapping douchebag...
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I think the act of pulling out a gun would cause most douchebags to back off. If you want to fire a warning shot into the ceiling lights in extreme cases, have fun. But shooting a guy in the chest for popcorn and name-calling is a tad too extreme for me to be open-minded about how scared the defendant felt. I could give a shit.
 
noknobs said:
I think the act of pulling out a gun would cause most douchebags to back off. If you want to fire a warning shot into the ceiling lights in extreme cases, have fun. But shooting a guy in the chest for popcorn and name-calling is a tad too extreme for me to be open-minded about how scared the defendant felt. I could give a shit.
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I don't think he was scared. I think he was reacting to a bully.
 
noknobs said:
I think the act of pulling out a gun would cause most douchebags to back off. If you want to fire a warning shot into the ceiling lights in extreme cases, have fun. But shooting a guy in the chest for popcorn and name-calling is a tad too extreme for me to be open-minded about how scared the defendant felt. I could give a shit.
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That reminds me of another encounter.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-overturns-20-year-sentence-woman-fired-warning/story?id=20387742
 
noknobs said:
I think the act of pulling out a gun would cause most douchebags to back off. If you want to fire a warning shot into the ceiling lights in extreme cases, have fun. But shooting a guy in the chest for popcorn and name-calling is a tad too extreme for me to be open-minded about how scared the defendant felt. I could give a shit.
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i don't know what cops are trained for, but military training for deadly force is that you never pull a weapon without an intention to use it, and you never point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot, and you never shoot warning shots. The "decision matrix" has to be complete before you pull the weapon that you're going to put the other guy down.
 
BrianFromWA said:
i don't know what cops are trained for, but military training for deadly force is that you never pull a weapon without an intention to use it, and you never point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot, and you never shoot warning shots. The "decision matrix" has to be complete before you pull the weapon that you're going to put the other guy down.
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Yup. You never fire a warning shot because you can't account for where the bullet might end up. If you pull the gun without an immediate intention to use it, you could give the other person a chance to pull a gun. You should only pull out a firearm if you absolutely need to use it.
 
Here's a question that I haven't seen answered:

Are firearms allowed in the theater that this happened in? If firearms are banned from the establishment, wouldn't that also affect how the case is handled?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Here's a question that I haven't seen answered:

Are firearms allowed in the theater that this happened in? If firearms are banned from the establishment, wouldn't that also affect how the case is handled?
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After what happened in Colorado, I'd be surprised if they werent.
 
BrianFromWA said:
i don't know what cops are trained for, but military training for deadly force is that you never pull a weapon without an intention to use it, and you never point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot, and you never shoot warning shots. The "decision matrix" has to be complete before you pull the weapon that you're going to put the other guy down.
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Police have a very different standard for use of force.

Their duty isn't to kill people and break things. It is to keep the peace.
 
Denny Crane said:
Police have a very different standard for use of force.

Their duty isn't to kill people and break things. It is to keep the peace.
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He also should have had decades of training in how to defuse a situation and reason with someone who is hostile.

Guess not....
 
Natebishop3 said:
He also should have had decades of training in how to defuse a situation and reason with someone who is hostile.

Guess not....
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According to the original article, he helped develop the first SWAT team for the Tampa Police Department.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
He also should have had decades of training in how to defuse a situation and reason with someone who is hostile.

Guess not....
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Stand your ground is a broken law, period. It should apply if the other person is armed and that is the threat. Retreat should always be part of the deal.
 
Denny Crane said:
Stand your ground is a broken law, period. It should apply if the other person is armed and that is the threat. Retreat should always be part of the deal.
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I agree. If you can remove yourself from the situation, you should always attempt to go that route first.
 
Instead of shooting him he should have given him a 3 day suspension.
 
Denny Crane said:
Stand your ground is a broken law, period. It should apply if the other person is armed and that is the threat. Retreat should always be part of the deal.
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Repped! I agree with you 100% :cheers:

It's a broken law that i doubt Florida will pay much attention to fixing unless stuff like this happens more often... :(
 
1. Popcorn is not a lightweight weapon. It can crack teeth. I have lost fillings in recent years from it.

2. Texting during previews is no less of a serious offense than doing it during the movie itself. I haven't gone for a couple of years, but the movie is usually worse than the hilarious full-color episode of Tom and Jerry. The privilege of seeing The Three Stooges on the big screen is worth the 25 cent price of admission.

3. It was dark. Maybe the old man's vision was impaired. Maybe he thought Galexor, King of Andromeda, was disintegrating his atoms with gamma rays. These are movie-goers. They daydream about fantasies of glory, not NBA championships like those in reality-land.

4. If you blame the police killing innocent citizens on deficient police training, you should press politicians to add millions of dollars to police departments for better and higher-paid in-house trainers. This will serve as incentive for police to improve.

5. The onus is on the dead man to justify why he stood his ground and flung popcorn. The old police captain had infractions in high school hiding Skittles in his locker, so his reputation isn't exactly clean either.

6. The police captain was forced to retire on his 90% pension at age 50 because of ego microsurgery. Kobe was also a victim of this and it hurts. The California cities which go bankrupt from police pensions should create more positions for retired police captains to patrol the scary dark halls of theaters haunted by the terrors of flung corn.
 
Denny Crane said:
Police have a very different standard for use of force.

Their duty isn't to kill people and break things. It is to keep the peace.
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Unless that person is alone on the streets of Portland with a mental handicap then they shoot to kill always.
 
I think we should all bring more guns to the movies . . . I just ask you use the silencer while the movie is playing.
 
STOMP said:
you think it's rude to text during the previews? Really?

STOMP
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Extremely rude. That's what that sofa in the lobby is for.

But then I had parents.

Your upbringing was probably different. :dunno:
 
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