Science Righteous dudes only! List mental illnesses

[ripcityboy]

Let's ask a question.... How many Americans have been written away over the years in mental wards, or are victims of neglect, ritualistic hazing, or much much worse? Then ask some of these poor folks if they give a shit about owning a gun. It's hilarious to me that funding mental health change is only spurned when it comes into line with questions of gun safety. Look at the amount of mentally ill Americans who are VICTIMS of violence first.

 

[Chris Craig]

Well Chris, I sort of hoped you would weigh in on the core question. Just exactly... well you can go read the initial post.
Being a teacher and all, and not to leave out the ENFJ mind! It is a powerful thing when the owner has the feeling under control.
Your thoughts here could be persuasive.

Nate is offering an implied correlation. I just want to know if he had a grapgh that actually correlated the production of ritalin, the amount of school shootings, and the number of those shooters who were actually taking ritalin.

 

[MarAzul]

Nate is offering an implied correlation. I just want to know if he had a grapgh that actually correlated the production of ritalin, the amount of school shootings, and the number of those shooters who were actually taking ritalin.

Well I sort of wonder since I can not connect the rise in ritalin with the rise in Shootings, except with time period. It there other factors we do not know here that also rise with this time period. Such as;
Mother working instead of raising the children,
Father miss in the young mans life,
I mean I can't see what I don't see.

What I see, isn't working

 

[PDXFonz]

Hemmrhoids

 

[MarAzul]

Another thing I can see is, how pitifully inadequate it is, to leave these unknowns to a political process.
This rightfully should be assigned to systems analyst, to pull in all the relevant data and paint a proper image to submit to the political process.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Being a pedophile has nothing to do with a person likely to use a gun to shoot someone.

It's also questionable in enough cases that no blanket rule makes any sense.

The rules for boys and older women are radically different than for girls and older men (or similar same sex situations). Hot for teacher, and all that.

Or "Romeo and Juliet" situations.

It makes sense to disarm guys (or women) who commit domestic violence.

We already have that as part of Lautenberg.

 

[MarAzul]

Lautenberg.

Lautenberg?

 

[BrianFromWA]

https://www.armystudyguide.com/cont...s/military_justice/lautenberg-amendment.shtml

The Lautenberg Amendment to the Gun Control Act of 1968, effective 30 September 1996, makes it a felony for those convicted of misdemeanor crimes of domestic violence to ship, transport, possess, or receive firearms or ammunition. The Amendment also makes it a felony to transfer a firearm or ammunition to an individual known, or reasonably believed, to have such a conviction. Soldiers are not exempt from the Lautenberg Amendment.

Those who have been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence can't carry, even if they're in the military, which kind of restricts your ability to be in the military. But it applies to everyone.

 

[MarAzul]

https://www.armystudyguide.com/cont...s/military_justice/lautenberg-amendment.shtml

Those who have been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence can't carry, even if they're in the military, which kind of restricts your ability to be in the military. But it applies to everyone.

Ouch!
Dang, I fear this just another manifestation of the fear of arms by a man with the power to but lacking the intellect to understand.
Who in their right mind removes a Constitutional right and a god given right to protect yourself with the force of arms when necessary, over a misdemeanor. This sort of stuff needs to be clean up while the opportunity is available.

And it is totally ridiculous to lose a functioning warrior to this mindless law.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I actually don't have a problem with the law...those who commit domestic violence are generally not only domestic violence abusers.

What I have a problem with is when the Navy goes overboard and anyone who's had the police called on them is flagged for it and "pre-emptively" disarmed b/c of Lautenberg, "just in case". That's actually taking someone out of the fight and off the ship due to hearsay.

 

[MarAzul]

What I have a problem with is when the Navy goes overboard and anyone who's had the police called on them is flagged for it and "pre-emptively" disarmed

>>>Yes Brian. That is happening to people in civvies too. Get flag by the cops for a call, and your right to obtain arms is gone.
What a world we live in! I am quite ancient now, but this is really resent how far left we have swung.

I actually don't have a problem with the law...those who commit domestic violence are generally not only domestic violence abusers.

Well I do. Because of the lack of due process. Accusation are not enough. Police responding to calls is not enough. A man has a right to due process before the penalty is imposed.

 

[Denny Crane]

We already have that as part of Lautenberg.

That's fine. I'm just pointing out that "sexual offenders" aren't particularly going to go out and use guns. It's hardly a red flag for anything beyond pedophilia.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Well I do. Because of the lack of due process. Accusation are not enough. Police responding to calls is not enough. A man has a right to due process before the penalty is imposed.

According to the law, he does. According to much of the implementation, he doesn't.

 

[Cippy91]

Not sure about a list because it’s all different. ADHD for example isn’t gonna make somebody shoot up a school. I have had anxiety my whole life, doesn’t make me go violent, it’s literalky just overthinking things and being anxious in certain situations a lot. Mental illnesses like bi polar and schizophrenia I think are more so at the top of this list, but I don’t think a list is necessary. Anti depressants and school shooters and violent people have a history. I don’t know what that’s about but the evidence is there.

 

[MarAzul]

Not sure about a list because it’s all different. ADHD for example isn’t gonna make somebody shoot up a school. I have had anxiety my whole life, doesn’t make me go violent, it’s literalky just overthinking things and being anxious in certain situations a lot. Mental illnesses like bi polar and schizophrenia I think are more so at the top of this list, but I don’t think a list is necessary. Anti depressants and school shooters and violent people have a history. I don’t know what that’s about but the evidence is there.

Actually, we probably do not need to figure out which ailment will cause a person to do, or not do what.
It is probably that like most people, they will be deterred for committing violence where the opportunity is missing. Piss poor chances are not taken often even by the those with diminished capacity.