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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Sounds dumb to me. How long until we have a Blazers "participation award"?

If they do it every year, you're going to start running out of candidates and guys like Jermaine O'Neal and whatever come into the mix. Just leave it to having a Jersey in the rafters. That's the goal of every player, win a 'ship and have your number in the rafters forever.

Fan popularity contest? blah. Who the fuck does that? Sounds like some shit the Seahawk bandwagons would think of.
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You bring up some good points.

I think it's important that there is some sort of fan bestowed honor vs a franchise based and in some cases press based honor. In all of sports the majority of Hall of Fame's are determined by press. The very press that a lot of you disagree with and dislike. Why shouldn't fans have a way to honor players that mean or have meant a lot to them? As it applies to the Blazers I think the vast majority of fans would agree that the Blazers might have been a little quick to retire as many numbers as they have. This might be one way prevent that in the future and like you said, leave the retiring of numbers for players who have won a championship.

While this current management group has been excellent it hasn't been that long ago when previous Blazer management has been disconnected and distant from the average fan. This is also a way of keeping Blazer management connected to what fans like and want.

I wouldn't call it a popularity contest but you're right, as far as I know no other franchise in sports does anything like this. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing if the Blazers agree to and support this.

You are big on social media, you like and use it. It's never been easier for fans to stay connected and interact on many platforms. You recently received a Tweet of the Night honor from the Blazers, so not only is it easier to interact with other fans it's also easier to interact with the franchise itself. Why not use that to give back to some of the past players that mean a lot to fans?
 
I think the solution to this whole thing would be a point system.
years played in Portland
finals played in, conference or league
records (the kind Lamarcus is going after)
allstar or all nba achievement
team USA participation, Olympics or FIBA
One could assign pts per category and set a firm line for jersey retirement or ring of honor, walk of fame star, whatever
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You bring up some good points.

I think it's important that there is some sort of fan bestowed honor vs a franchise based and in some cases press based honor. In all of sports the majority of Hall of Fame's are determined by press. The very press that a lot of you disagree with and dislike. Why shouldn't fans have a way to honor players that mean or have meant a lot to them? As it applies to the Blazers I think the vast majority of fans would agree that the Blazers might have been a little quick to retire as many numbers as they have. This might be one way prevent that in the future and like you said, leave the retiring of numbers for players who have won a championship.

While this current management group has been excellent it hasn't been that long ago when previous Blazer management has been disconnected and distant from the average fan. This is also a way of keeping Blazer management connected to what fans like and want.

I wouldn't call it a popularity contest but you're right, as far as I know no other franchise in sports does anything like this. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing if the Blazers agree to and support this.

You are big on social media, you like and use it. It's never been easier for fans to stay connected and interact on many platforms. You recently received a Tweet of the Night honor from the Blazers, so not only is it easier to interact with other fans it's also easier to interact with the franchise itself. Why not use that to give back to some of the past players that mean a lot to fans?
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You've got to remember social media engagement is a very quick medium. The actual interaction and lasting appeal of it all is very transient.
Most fans would forget, hell, the Blazers marketing staff will probably forget to do it after the first season and it'll fade away. It has to be something different I think.
 
The best thing to do is a NCAA Bracket style elimination. Something on the website, but something actually physical inside the Moda center won't work at all. It'll be just something extra the organization has to maintain and deal with. Lots of effort and not very much reward.
 
jlprk said:
Let me get this straight. Blazer management didn't call the cops when you entered the parking lot. Okay, but then you say you got into the waiting room and started giving them advice. Look, if they keep you around for anything other than in case the mascot calls in sick, it's to use your advice as a guide to what not to do.

So your idea is to start a minor league of retired numbers, a Gladiator tryout queue for the big league of Blazer retired numbers. For example, put Roy in the Ring of Fire for a few years, and if he survives above the rest, award him Caesar's thumb's up and his very own retired number.

So Blazer management chuckled at your Retired Number D-League idea. You better stick with us here in the poor side of town, the wrong side of the tracks.
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The Blazers have been very encouraging and supportive of all the ideas that have come from this forum. When Denny and I have emailed with ideas or requests they have replied very quickly and have been extremely professional. You're right, I'm a complete fucking idiot and I know they think I'm a joke but I try anyways. When I don't try Denny does. Just last week he emailed them and has gotten more swag and prizes to give out in the forum. Last night a few forum members thought it would be a great idea if the Blazers played Kersey's national anthem at tomorrow's game instead of having a live performer. I read that and immediately passed that idea on to the Blazers. Was it advice? Was it dumb? Was it something it I shouldn't have done? Don't know.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
That is an organization bestowed award, not a fan based honor. I'm suggesting that a Blazer Ring of Honor be something that is fan based.
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I think it's a really good idea Sly and you should be commended along with Denny and whoever for connecting the fan base to the organization. I appreciate what you guys do here and it works for me! Well done and good project to take on.
 
I see (the fan based thing).

I was thinking about replaying Jeromes version of the National Anthem too, glad someone else thought about it. Similar to how i was glad Steve Blake gave up his #.
 
julius said:
I see (the fan based thing).

I was thinking about replaying Jeromes version of the National Anthem too, glad someone else thought about it. Similar to how i was glad Steve Blake gave up his #.
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exactly, Blake showed a lot of heart. I had requested Mercy, mercy me to be played by Marvin Gaye. It's the first song that came into my head when I learned of his passing and it's stuck there since.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Eventually, if it's every year they will run out of players who would actually deserve it and go into third tier blazers who remain somewhat popular in the fanbase for whatever reason.
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We could look into something like the Baseball Hall of Fame uses, I believe a player has to get a minimum of 75% of the vote to be inducted.

I agree, I think if this were a yearly event we would soon run out of worthy past players to honor. After the first 3 or 4 years to get this firmly established we could do it every other year. Then in the off years we can pick someone to tar and feather like Quick and Canzano.

Also a Ring of Honor doesn't have to be just players. In the future I can see Wheels and Rice being honored and even Paul Allen himself. Hopefully Stotts after he leads the team to a ring.
 
Sly, don't let jlprk get to you. The combination of trade deadline overdose bringing back memories of Trader Bob, the absolute cold and SAD without meds made a maelstrom that you bore the brunt of. It's all good.
 
You realize that the next thing to be addressed will be the hall of shame awards..I'll start by nominating Raymond Felton
 
BrianFromWA said:
Sly, don't let jlprk get to you. The combination of trade deadline overdose bringing back memories of Trader Bob, the absolute cold and SAD without meds made a maelstrom that you bore the brunt of. It's all good.
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If an actor can be President, and if Canzano can try to run the Blazers, remote control, with a pen, then a message board host can advise Blazer management. I'm on Sly's side, and next time you two crash their big glass front door, I'm offering to be your getaway driver.
 
I like the idea of a fan based award. I have many fond memories of Jerome Kersey and think he would be an awesome start for the Ring of Honor!
 
jlprk said:
then a message board host can advise Blazer management.
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Message board host?!? You make me sound like Julie, the Cruise Director from the Love Boat.

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Never forget...

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I am the danger!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
We could look into something like the Baseball Hall of Fame uses, I believe a player has to get a minimum of 75% of the vote to be inducted.

I agree, I think if this were a yearly event we would soon run out of worthy past players to honor. After the first 3 or 4 years to get this firmly established we could do it every other year. Then in the off years we can pick someone to tar and feather like Quick and Canzano.

Also a Ring of Honor doesn't have to be just players. In the future I can see Wheels and Rice being honored and even Paul Allen himself. Hopefully Stotts after he leads the team to a ring.
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I think that fixers a lot of the issues of hit becoming overcrowded and getting to players who didn't mean all that much to the fan base and the franchise but happened to be here for awhile. Have an induction every year for a few years with the criteria that it be a player who is retired and played the Blazers for X number of years. Get a vote going for the top 5 then have a vote of 5 to figure out who gets in. However it gets figured out how a player makes it in it should go to an award to be handed out every 2 to 3 years so the number of good candidates doesn't run out quickly if ever.
It would be fun for it to be an off season thing with the winner announced at the first game of the year. Could have a combination of Social media and something like the Blazers handing out a ballot to everyone in the last couple of games of the year to fill out the player they would like to see in it and then turn it in and combine that with votes on social media.
 
A yearly vote is a terrible idea. It should be based on merit not because so and so got in during a down year.

A fan vote is bad too; thats just a cop out so the organization doesn't have to make the correct decisions.

I think the ring of honor should be for players whos number is not retired. Keeping the ring smaller makes it more meaningful. Move Steele and Twardzik jerseys out of the rafters and into the ring. Either put Kersey's jersey in the rafters or name the entire ring after him.
 
riverman said:
They should start a Moda Center walk of fame and give Jerome a star. I think he should get a civic award through the Blazers organization and I'd have no problem retiring his jersey but Sabonis and Sheed should have theirs retired as well.
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Sabonis? Hell yes.

Sheed? Hell no.
 
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