RIP General H. Norman Schwarzkopf

[SlyPokerDog]

Dead at age 78.

 

[Haakzilla]

...one less war criminal

General Norman Schwarzkopf, Commander in Chief, U.S. Central Command, for his military leadership of the Iraqi carnage; for continuing the carnage two days after the cease-fire; for continuing it against Iraqis trying to surrender.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

...one less war criminal

You mean we didn't end the war when Iraq wanted to end it?!?

 

[MARIS61]

His father, same name, was instrumental in the illegal overthrow of Iran's democratically elected government in 1953.

Britain and the US (supposedly purveyors of freedom) put the exiled Shah back into authoritarian power in exchange for ceding control of Iranian oil to 7 oil companies (5 of them American).

Because of this illegal and heinous overthrow, the people of Iran suffered atrocities for decades and the US and Britain are justly reviled for the mass murders and torture they brought upon the Iranians simply to pad the pockets of a few oilmen.

This is why Iran wants nukes, and I can't really blame them. They followed the example of the US . They fought for freedom, instilled a democratic government, and were punished for it by the very countries that inspired their short-lived freedom.

 

[MARIS61]

You mean we didn't end the war when Iraq wanted to end it?!?

He means he continued killing innocent civilians, children and women, in a foreign country we were no longer at war with.

As an official representative of you and I.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

war is a helluva drug

 

[jlprk]

Simultaneously, his boss Big Bush is in critical care possibly dying.

 

[Haakzilla]

Simultaneously, his boss Big Bush is in critical care possibly dying.

...yet another war criminal, little Bush is even more notorious!

 

[jlprk]

Noriega is still alive, shuffled from prison to prison. His crime was not obeying CIA orders during their 1980s Central America actions.

 

[Natebishop3]

...one less war criminal

Poor Iraq for getting its ass kicked after invading a smaller country. I don't see anyone weeping for the Germans after Russia trucked tens of thousands of German prisoners post-WWII back to the USSR, never to be seen or heard from again.

 

[MARIS61]

Quote Originally Posted by jlprk
Simultaneously, his boss Big Bush is in critical care possibly dying.

...yet another war criminal, little Bush is even more notorious!

Bad people die in threes. Cross your fingers.

 

[MARIS61]

I don't see anyone weeping for the Germans after Russia trucked tens of thousands of German prisoners post-WWII back to the USSR, never to be seen or heard from again.

Not surprising, you're very shortsighted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Poor Iraq for getting its ass kicked after invading a smaller country.

i heard kuwait was drinking their milkshake, and they wanted to put a stop to it

 

[DaLincolnJones]

well, I see that the reasonable, fair thinking crew has visited this thread..

 

[DaLincolnJones]

U.S. military decorations
Defense Distinguished Service Medal
Army Distinguished Service Medal (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Navy Distinguished Service Medal
Air Force Distinguished Service Medal
Coast Guard Distinguished Service Medal
Silver Star (with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Defense Superior Service Medal
Legion of Merit
Distinguished Flying Cross
Bronze Star (with Valor Device and 2 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Purple Heart (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Meritorious Service Medal (with 6 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Air Medal (with award numeral 9)
Army Commendation Medal (with Valor Device and 3 Oak Leaf Clusters)
U.S. Unit Awards
Meritorious Unit Commendation
U.S. Service (Campaign) Medals and Service and Training Ribbons
Army of Occupation Medal
National Defense Service Medal (with Service Star)
Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal
Vietnam Service Medal (with four bronze campaign stars)
Army Service Ribbon
Army Overseas Service Ribbon (with award numeral 3)
U.S. badges, patches and tabs
Combat Infantryman Badge
Master Parachutist Badge
Army Staff Identification Badge
Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge
Office of the Secretary of Defense Identification Badge
United States Central Command
6th Infantry Regiment Distinctive Unit Insignia


According to his autobiography he was awarded the Defense Distinguished Service Medal as well as the Distinguished Service Medals for the Army (4th award), Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard at his retirement ceremony.

U.S. non-military and foreign military awards & decorations
United States Presidential Medal of Freedom
United States Congressional Gold Medal
United States Republican Senatorial Medal of Freedom
British Knight Commander in the Military Division of Most Honourable Order of the Bath (honorary)
French Légion d'honneur, order of Grand Officier
Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm (with two bronze Palms and bronze Star)
Republic of Vietnam Armed Forces Honor Medal first class
Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross Unit Citation Ribbon
Republic of Vietnam Civil Actions Unit Citation Ribbon
Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal
Republic of Vietnam Master Parachutist Badge

[edit] Other honors



Schwarzkopf Elementary School, named after him in Lutz, Florida, 1991.[14]
Honorary First-Class Private in the French Foreign Legion, 1991.[15]
Distinguished German-American of the Year, 2006.[16]
Inducted in the New Jersey Hall of Fame, 2008.[17]
Time Magazine cover on February 4, 1991 and April 1, 1996

He is also a member of Mensa.

I thank god that we have guys like this to protect your right to be pricks

 

[Denny Crane]

He is also a member of Mensa.

MARIS wouldn't join a club that would have him as a member.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I'm proud to have served under his command. I wish he had run for President instead of Dole. Or Clinton, if the General fancied himself a Democrat.

A shining example of dignity, integrity, and class.

Fuck you for calling him a war criminal.

 

[Haakzilla]

I'm proud to have served under his command. I wish he had run for President instead of Dole. Or Clinton, if the General fancied himself a Democrat.

A shining example of dignity, integrity, and class.

Fuck you for calling him a war criminal.

...I'm sorry, you're right, he was just doing his job -- very well!

 

[jlprk]

That makes it his boss' fault. Blaming Bush makes the spelling easier.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

That makes it his boss' fault. Blaming Bush makes the spelling easier.

hate·mon·ger/ˈheɪtˌmʌŋ gər, -ˌmɒŋ-/ Show Spelled [heyt-muhng-ger, -mong-] Show IPA
noun
a person who kindles hatred, enmity, or prejudice in others.

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Origin:
hate + monger

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I'm proud to have served under his command. I wish he had run for President instead of Dole. Or Clinton, if the General fancied himself a Democrat.

A shining example of dignity, integrity, and class.

Fuck you for calling him a war criminal.

Rep'd.

I often wonder why Maris is still allowed here when Mixim was not. Frankly, there's no difference between the two.

 

[jlprk]

There is no similarity. Mixum wasn't political. He would start threads with one sentence telling us we should be sad over some limitation of the Blazers. Then he didn't reappear in the thread. He didn't engage in the dialogue he had initiated.

Maris puts together a bunch of sentences into a lengthy idea. He is explicitly and honestly out in the open, while Mixum was cleverly hiding and manipulative of our feelings about the team.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Rep'd.

I often wonder why Maris is still allowed here when Mixim was not. Frankly, there's no difference between the two.

meh, Maris is a joke, read his disclaimer, specialy when his posted link shoots his own arguement down lol

I hope in secret that he is really a veteran and that we spent time in service..

 

[Denny Crane]

Rep'd.

I often wonder why Maris is still allowed here when Mixim was not. Frankly, there's no difference between the two.

We don't have a rule against unpopular speech or against people acting like idiots. You don't make it to near 14,000 posts if you aren't at least loyal to the site and community.

 

[Haakzilla]

hate·mon·ger/ˈheɪtˌmʌŋ gər, -ˌmɒŋ-/ Show Spelled [heyt-muhng-ger, -mong-] Show IPA
noun
a person who kindles hatred, enmity, or prejudice in others.

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Origin:
hate + monger

war·mon·ger noun \ˈwȯr-ˌməŋ-gər, -ˌmäŋ-\

Definition of WARMONGER: one who urges or attempts to stir up war

— war·mon·ger·ing (noun)

 

[DaLincolnJones]

...one less war criminal

you know, my first reaction, mayhaps a knee jerk reaction is to echo Wook, and tell you to get fucked, and not in a nice way..I have held off as I want to be able to understand the "why" of your opinion.

I ran across this http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/us/civilian-military-gap-grows-as-fewer-americans-serve.html?_r=0

"At any given time in the past decade, less than 1 percent of the American population has been on active military duty, compared with 9 percent of Americans who were in uniform in World War II. As a result, there is a growing generation gap, with younger Americans far less likely than older ones to have a family member who served. "

from everything I have read in the past few days, this sums up the reasoning that I have come to accept as the root of the matter..

I hope for you that at some point your self aggrandizing, self important bull shit high horse allows you the vantage, perhaps in hindsight, to comprehend the destructive nature of your behavior

 

[3RA1N1AC]

kudos to everyone for serving if they did, once you were in im sure many of you accomplished good or great things, saved people, helped build houses and nations, etc

chances are you also did or witnessed horrible unspeakable things in the name of democracy

you should be placed on a pedestal for your courage, but also pitied for your forced emotional sacrifice

that said, signing my life over to the highest bidder is not something i ever wanted to do

 

[Haakzilla]

you know, my first reaction, mayhaps a knee jerk reaction is to echo Wook, and tell you to get fucked, and not in a nice way..I have held off as I want to be able to understand the "why" of your opinion.

I ran across this http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/us/civilian-military-gap-grows-as-fewer-americans-serve.html?_r=0

"At any given time in the past decade, less than 1 percent of the American population has been on active military duty, compared with 9 percent of Americans who were in uniform in World War II. As a result, there is a growing generation gap, with younger Americans far less likely than older ones to have a family member who served. "

from everything I have read in the past few days, this sums up the reasoning that I have come to accept as the root of the matter..

I hope for you that at some point your self aggrandizing, self important bull shit high horse allows you the vantage, perhaps in hindsight, to comprehend the destructive nature of your behavior

...maybe that's it, but I think it has a lot more to do with being anti-war than it does being anti-military per se. But unfortunately, the military industrial complex marches to their own beat -- directed by evil, far-reaching forces.

 

[jlprk]

you know, my first reaction, mayhaps a knee jerk reaction is to echo Wook, and tell you to get fucked, and not in a nice way..I have held off as I want to be able to understand the "why" of your opinion.

I ran across this http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/us/civilian-military-gap-grows-as-fewer-americans-serve.html?_r=0

"At any given time in the past decade, less than 1 percent of the American population has been on active military duty, compared with 9 percent of Americans who were in uniform in World War II. As a result, there is a growing generation gap, with younger Americans far less likely than older ones to have a family member who served. "

from everything I have read in the past few days, this sums up the reasoning that I have come to accept as the root of the matter..

I hope for you that at some point your self aggrandizing, self important bull shit high horse allows you the vantage, perhaps in hindsight, to comprehend the destructive nature of your behavior

Fancy words to tell us that you recently discovered how small of a minority you are. Good people will always be in the majority, opposing those who kill and torture.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Dear jlpb&j,

You need to try just a little harder..