Rising Star Trophy winner: Kostas Papanikolaou

[Wizard Mentor]

since we own KP's rights anyway, lets just make a "trade" with Olympiacos - KP for Freeland. That way it won't hurt our cap.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Spurs, Dallas, and the Knicks all interested? Not seeing how they will help us get what we need. I would like to trade him to a team ahead of us in the draft with the hope of moving up. I don't think we can get that much for him other than a few spots higher.

Including him with our 10th pick for a center? Who needs two young players for one of their extra bigs?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Stott's primarily played Claver as a backup PF.

The backup spot is wide open.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Roberto Bascoy: Chris Shentziou, Kostas Papanikolaou's press officer: "Papanikolaou will decide between Olympiacos and NBA. He's not considering another European team" Twitter

Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#W2uy6hzR03eVLLow.99

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Spurs, Dallas, and the Knicks all interested? Not seeing how they will help us get what we need. I would like to trade him to a team ahead of us in the draft with the hope of moving up. I don't think we can get that much for him other than a few spots higher.

Including him with our 10th pick for a center? Who needs two young players for one of their extra bigs?

Hmm...Papanikolaou & Freeland for S&T Splitter?

 

[Boise Blazer]

http://www.projectspurs.com/2013-ar...interested-in-greek-forward-papanikolaou.html

The San Antonio Spurs have a knack at finding NBA talent overseas and it appears the team has eyes on another foreign basketball talent.

According to Eurohoops.net, the Blazers may be looking to trade Greek forward Kostas Papanikolaou of Olympiacos and the Spurs are interested in acquiring his rights among other teams.

So there is a strong chance that the Blazers will trade his rights and many teams has shown interest. Spurs and Mavericks are among them, as well as the Knicks who drafted Papanikolaou on No48 of last year’s draft.

According to the report, Papanikolaou won this year’s “Rising Star" award and is considered the best Euro prospect to land in the NBA.

Papanikolaou is a 6'9" forward, who is averaging 10 points, 2 assists, 4.1 assists, and shooting 71.3% from the field in 21.5 minutes for Olympiacos. In the Euroleague, he averaged 8.7 points, 1.4 assists, 4.4 rebounds, and shooting 47.3% from the field in 31 games.

 

[BBert]

The single best reason to keep Kostas Papanikolaou and bring him over is if the Spurs want him.

 

[Boise Blazer]

The single best reason to keep Kostas Papanikolaou and bring him over is if the Spurs want him.

Haha! Makes you think twice about dealing him huh?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Good block:

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[Pinwheel1]

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story...r-plan-turn-dallas-mavericks-title-contenders

One possibility to create cap room, Cuban acknowledged, would be for veteran forward Shawn Marion to exercise the early termination option for the last season of his contract and agree to return to Dallas on a long-term deal at a lower salary. Cuban said the Mavs also could end up trading the 13th overall pick or drafting a player "to stash overseas somewhere" to prevent the $1.66 million hold from counting against the team's salary cap.

Makes you thing that our Greek has been discussed. Again #10 and #13 is intriguing for various reasons. Unless he is adamant about coming over this year.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I would trade KP if I thought it would get us Oladipo. But it won't. It just won't. So don't trade him: he's better than the #13 pick.* I'd rather give up a future #1.





*Unless it's Dieng or Schroeder.

 

[RR7]

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story...r-plan-turn-dallas-mavericks-title-contenders

One possibility to create cap room, Cuban acknowledged, would be for veteran forward Shawn Marion to exercise the early termination option for the last season of his contract and agree to return to Dallas on a long-term deal at a lower salary. Cuban said the Mavs also could end up trading the 13th overall pick or drafting a player "to stash overseas somewhere" to prevent the $1.66 million hold from counting against the team's salary cap.

Makes you thing that our Greek has been discussed. Again #10 and #13 is intriguing for various reasons. Unless he is adamant about coming over this year.

Even if he wants to come over, as a 2nd round pick, he doesn't have a cap hold.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I would trade KP if I thought it would get us Oladipo. But it won't. It just won't. So don't trade him: he's better than the #13 pick. I'd rather give up a future #1.

How long will he wait before he demands to come over? Some times they get impatient and sign a long Euro deal with a tougher buy out. I thought I read that he is ready now. How does that work btw? If a player wants to come over and the US team does not want him that year, what kind of leverage , if any, does the player have?

 

[RR7]

How long will he wait before he demands to come over? Some times they get impatient and sign a long Euro deal with a tougher buy out. I thought I read that he is ready now. How does that work btw? If a player wants to come over and the US team does not want him that year, what kind of leverage , if any, does the player have?

I think with first round picks, it's primarily up to the player. I can be wrong, but I think because there is a set rookie salary, they can almost just take that. I think that might be what happened with Sergio and maybe Batum, where Blazers thought they might go back over for a year, but both just wanted to come immediately. With second round picks, only option the player would have, I believe, is to sit out a year without playing at all, and become a free agent.

 

[Pinwheel1]

With second round picks, only option the player would have, I believe, is to sit out a year without playing at all, and become a free agent.

If true that really sucks for a player to be drafted in the 2nd round. The team should be forced to renounce the player's rights if they don't want him. The Euro league is not our farm system.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Shit, if he wants to come over, we'll take him! Maybe he lights a fire under Claver, or maybe we trade Claver. But I have a feeling he'd get ahead of him in the rotation just because of his intensity. Claver's skilled and more athletic, but seems like a real wallflower. KP is intense.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If true that really sucks for a player to be drafted in the 2nd round. The team should be forced to renounce the player's rights if they don't want him. The Euro league is not our farm system.

On the other hand: if you look exciting enough, you're not bound by the first-round-pick rookie scale, so you can get rich quick! And presumably the best thing to do is to latch on with a powerful agent who will threaten to punish the team unless they sign you or deal you.

 

[RR7]

If true that really sucks for a player to be drafted in the 2nd round. The team should be forced to renounce the player's rights if they don't want him. The Euro league is not our farm system.

Well, the huge benefit for those guys to be drafted in the 2nd round is they aren't held to the rookie scale salaries. So you can come over as a 2nd round pick, and get a 3 million a year contract, whereas guys in the late 1st get about a million or so. So a lot of guys will say they won't come over if they are picked in 1, and then tend to go very early in 2. I think that's what happened with Pekovic.

 

[MickZagger]

Shit, if he wants to come over, we'll take him! Maybe he lights a fire under Claver, or maybe we trade Claver. But I have a feeling he'd get ahead of him in the rotation just because of his intensity. Claver's skilled and more athletic, but seems like a real wallflower. KP is intense.

Claver looked just fine towards the end of the year for NBA rookie. Decent rotational player.

 

[Pinwheel1]

On the other hand: if you look exciting enough, you're not bound by the first-round-pick rookie scale, so you can get rich quick! And presumably the best thing to do is to latch on with a powerful agent who will threaten to punish the team unless they sign you or deal you.

True. But the team that drafts you can basically prevent you from coming over if they are not willing to pay the price you may deserve. No one is going to sit out a year. So you are kind of screwed.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

True. But the team that drafts you can basically prevent you from coming over if they are not willing to pay the price you may deserve. No one is going to sit out a year. So you are kind of screwed.

Aren't you even worse off as a first-rounder? After all, teams are more likely to offer you a minimum one-year contract and see what you're like than commit to a full first-round pick deal. Petteri Koponen will almost certainly never be brought over, but he probably would if he'd been a second rounder.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Claver looked just fine towards the end of the year for NBA rookie. Decent rotational player.

I agree. I was hoping for more, though. And I think he could be more if he was less reticent. Feistiness counts for a lot.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Aren't you even worse off as a first-rounder? After all, teams are more likely to offer you a minimum one-year contract and see what you're like than commit to a full first-round pick deal. Petteri Koponen will almost certainly never be brought over, but he probably would if he'd been a second rounder.

Yeah that sucks too. Bottom line is if a player wants to come over and the team that drafted you doesn't want you that year, then you should be able to become a free agent immediately. Now if you are not ready to come over, then that is a different story. The teams obviously should be able to retain the rights to said player.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

The apparent lack of interest from Neil is confusing. Kostas blew up this year and looked better than Claver ever did in Spain.

 

[Pinwheel1]

The apparent lack of interest from Neil is confusing. Kostas blew up this year and looked better than Claver ever did in Spain.

Maybe his agent is throwing 3 mil a year out as a minimum and it is not conducive with Neil's plan for this summer. He may be ignoring the whole thing until he lands a player he is targeting.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

The apparent lack of interest from Neil is confusing. Kostas blew up this year and looked better than Claver ever did in Spain.

I don't think we know enough. Remember, foreign agents are even more prone to throwing out shit than the agents over here.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Bouna Ndiaye disagrees and wants you to take that back.

 

[jlprk]

I don't think we know enough. Remember, foreign agents are even more prone to throwing out shit than the agents over here.

I know all about foreign agents because of James Bond movies, and I say they are secretive.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Apparently KP has been learning from his future teammate Batum already:

[video=youtube;-1mXuHWcajk]

Olympiakos has already lost 2 straight games to its bitter rival Panathinaikos in the Greek finals, and was about to lose the third when:

[video=youtube;9DHxZ0q1jR8]

They take their basketball seriously in Greece...

Edit: the game was ended early and Panathinaikos wins in a sweep.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Here's a summary of the whole farrago.