Politics RNC Thread For People Who Want To Talk About The RNC

[lawai'a]

OK, you're right. I could always take Biden's stance and the world will be a better place.

not what i questioned. not my being right or wrong nor you, but where this fits in your anti abortion/pro life position?

 

[RR7]

I WON'T VOTE!

??
Do what you like. Hs nothing to do with the question asked.

 

[ABM]

not what i questioned. not my being right or wrong nor you, but where this fits in your anti abortion/pro life position?

If found to be directly related to abortions, I won't vote for Trump. If true, we shall see how he fits in the equation.

 

[lawai'a]

If found to be directly related to abortions, I won't vote for Trump. If true, we shall see how he fits in the equation.

not really about trump, but about you. i personally am opposed to the use of fetal tissue, but some of the newer harvesting methods of embryonic stem cells no longer destroy the embryo. the use of the HEK 293 tissue would be wrong IMHO now that other methods for their harvest are available. the development of this particular antiviral utilized the older tissues from the aborted fetus. i can be opposed yet understand that its value in saving other lives has worth. i would personally choose to decline this treatment option, though not force others to choose my preferred option. what is done is done.

 

[julius]

No. I didn't.

Yes you did. Clearly.

 

[crandc]

Definition of pro life:
Pointing guns at people
Infecting others with Corona virus

 

[theprunetang]

Definition of pro life:
Pointing guns at people
Infecting others with Corona virus

You forgot to add:
Getting injected with lifesaving drugs derived from fetal tissue, but 100% for controlling a woman's body. On the taxpayer's dime no less (because you are totally opposed to socialized healthcare, unless it is for you).

 

[crandc]

You forgot to add:
Getting injected with lifesaving drugs derived from fetal tissue, but 100% for controlling a woman's body. On the taxpayer's dime no less (because you are totally opposed to socialized healthcare, unless it is for you).

Getting injected with the drug only applies to Trump. If anyone else received it we'd hear about the fertilized egg.

 

[ABM]

Yes you did. Clearly.

Clearly, I did not.

 

[illmatic99]

I WON'T VOTE!

promise?

 

[ABM]

does this use of aborted fetal tissue in the regeneron anti body cocktail developement and research that the president just took conflict with your pro life stance? i know it does for many others.

So far, the administration has not budged on its rules around the use of fetal tissue, and while anti-abortion legislators have urged the president to similarly discontinue the use of embryonic stem cell research, under the pretense that an embryo is basically a fetus, that research venue remains intact. Regeneron’s public position is that it uses a “wide variety of research tools,” including stem cells, to develop its products, which it has noted “adheres to federal and state laws and regulations.”

But it also, according to supplementary material released by researchers in Science, “briefly” used a derivative of a common cell line called HEK 293 in the development of the therapy that would eventually be administered to Trump—cells originally cultured from an aborted fetus in the ‘70s in the Netherlands. HEK 293 has been used widely for decades in research and industry and enjoys the occasional controversy when, for instance, the Christian media discovers it might have been used in the development of a candy bar or diet soda. Most recently, it has become a focal point for pro-life opposition to some coronavirus vaccines.

I'm still looking into this. So, the stem cells in question are from decades-old abortions?

https://www.newsweek.com/anti-abort...-vaccines-may-use-cells-human-fetuses-1509573

....Arthur Caplan, professor of bioethics at the NYU School of Medicine, told Science: "If you are going to say the government shouldn't fund things that a minority of people object to, you will have a very long list of things that won't get funded by the government, from research on weapons of war to contraceptive research."

Caplan also said: "There are better ways to win the abortion wars than telling people not to use a vaccine. These are long-over abortions. These cells are decades old, and even major religious leaders like the pope have acknowledged that for the greater good it's not worth the symbolism to put the community at risk."

Caplan also said: "There are better ways to win the abortion wars than telling people not to use a vaccine. These are long-over abortions. These cells are decades old, and even major religious leaders like the pope have acknowledged that for the greater good it's not worth the symbolism to put the community at risk."

 

[illmatic99]

I have used hek cells extensively in both school and at work. they're what we call immortalized.

If people are freaked out by this stuff, wait til you tell em that insulin that people inject to counter diabetes used to be made from pigs.

 

[Propagandist]

I'm still looking into this. So, the stem cells in question are from decades-old abortions?

https://www.newsweek.com/anti-abort...-vaccines-may-use-cells-human-fetuses-1509573

....Arthur Caplan, professor of bioethics at the NYU School of Medicine, told Science: "If you are going to say the government shouldn't fund things that a minority of people object to, you will have a very long list of things that won't get funded by the government, from research on weapons of war to contraceptive research."

Caplan also said: "There are better ways to win the abortion wars than telling people not to use a vaccine. These are long-over abortions. These cells are decades old, and even major religious leaders like the pope have acknowledged that for the greater good it's not worth the symbolism to put the community at risk."

Caplan also said: "There are better ways to win the abortion wars than telling people not to use a vaccine. These are long-over abortions. These cells are decades old, and even major religious leaders like the pope have acknowledged that for the greater good it's not worth the symbolism to put the community at risk."

There's an expiration date on your ethics? Haha.

 

[lawai'a]

I'm still looking into this. So, the stem cells in question are from decades-old abortions?

https://www.newsweek.com/anti-abort...-vaccines-may-use-cells-human-fetuses-1509573

....Arthur Caplan, professor of bioethics at the NYU School of Medicine, told Science: "If you are going to say the government shouldn't fund things that a minority of people object to, you will have a very long list of things that won't get funded by the government, from research on weapons of war to contraceptive research."

Caplan also said: "There are better ways to win the abortion wars than telling people not to use a vaccine. These are long-over abortions. These cells are decades old, and even major religious leaders like the pope have acknowledged that for the greater good it's not worth the symbolism to put the community at risk."

Caplan also said: "There are better ways to win the abortion wars than telling people not to use a vaccine. These are long-over abortions. These cells are decades old, and even major religious leaders like the pope have acknowledged that for the greater good it's not worth the symbolism to put the community at risk."

yes, to the greater good, no to the personal ethics. again i would decline the treatment. 1 The Catholic Church's position on the use of HEK293 cells, or other cell lines generated from elective abortions, in medical research is that they should be avoided because other-wise this creates a "contradiction in the attitude of the [researcher] who says that he does not approve of the injustice perpetrated by others, but at the same time accepts for his own work the 'biological material' which the others have obtained by means of that injustice" (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith 2008, no. ...
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6704828_The_ethics_of_HEK_293

 

[illmatic99]

I'm still looking into this. So, the stem cells in question are from decades-old abortions?

293 cells are derived from an aborted fetus' kidney from the Netherlands back in the 70s. They've been heavily cultured and ubiquitous.

Every biotech/pharma/uni will have hundreds of labs using these cuz they offer a lot of benefits to study a variety of stuff. Think you'd be surprised how many of these kinds of things people use in research if this is news to you.

 

[ABM]

293 cells are derived from an aborted fetus' kidney from the Netherlands back in the 70s. They've been heavily cultured and ubiquitous.

Every biotech/pharma/uni will have hundreds of labs using these cuz they offer a lot of benefits to study a variety of stuff. Think you'd be surprised how many of these kinds of things people use in research if this is news to you.

I've been aware of it. I know that Planned Parenthood associates were illegally recorded by an anti-abortion activist. Nonetheless, what they said was what they said.

 

[Lanny]

I'm against abortion. Period. Let's discuss stem cell research vs. late-stage abortion, which Biden appears to support.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/biden-harris-abortions-late-in-pregnancy/

Let'a discuss late stage abortion and Joe Biden:
"During the Republican National Convention, President Donald Trump said Democrats and Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee, support late-term abortions right up until the moment of birth.

Trump might have been referring a bill proposed last year by Democrats in the Virginia legislature, which was unsuccessful. The bill sought to make it easier for women to obtain abortions late in pregnancy if the mother's physical health or safety were at risk. The proposed legislation prompted Senator Ted Cruz, a Republican from Texas, to falsely claim that Democrats support abortion up until the moment of birth. Many other Republicans, including Vice President Mike Pence, have echoed the claim."
This from a fact check at:
https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/ebf60ef5

 

[Sedatedfork]

Trump claimed Biden was in favor of post birth abortions.

 

[illmatic99]

WTF is a post birth abortion?

 

[andalusian]

WTF is a post birth abortion?

When you let over 200,000 people dies from a virus because of incompetence. Oops.

 

[ehizzy3]

 

[Lanny]

Definition of pro life:
Pointing guns at people
Infecting others with Corona virus

There's a multitude of other symptoms. e.g. The Death Penalty, not providing for destitute women who choose to have their baby, eliminating Obama Care and so on.

 

[lawai'a]

Nurse who spoke at 2020 RNC busted for shooting woman after argument

Amy Thorn -- aka Amy Ford -- speaks during the first night of the Republican National Convention on Aug. 24.

A West Virginia nurse who spoke at the Republican National Convention in August was arrested for shooting a woman in the gut after an argument, according to reports.

Amy Thorn, 39, gained attention after volunteering to work in New York in April, and later to San Antonio to treat COVID-19 patients.

Also known as Amy Ford, the name she used when she spoke on the opening night of the RNC, Thorn became something of a local hero because of her efforts to fight the virus and was later honored at a White House ceremony.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/10/nurse-who-spoke-at-2020-rnc-busted-for-shooting-woman/
Two females (Thorn and Jonda Whitt) became involved in a verbal altercation around 5 p.m. yesterday which escalated and one of the females was shot with a gun,” said Williamson Police Chief Grady Dotson.
According to Dotson, Thorn allegedly said she had become fearful for her safety and had told Whitt she had a gun.

“She went to the car and got the gun out of the car,” Dotson said. “The victim was taken to ARH (Tug Valley ARH Regional Medical Center, South Williamson, Ky.) and was then air-lifted to the Pikeville (Ky.) Medical Center.”

 

[crandc]

Went to her car and got a gun, so not heat of the moment and not self defense. If she could get to get car she could drive away.

 

[ehizzy3]

So one of the woman speakers they had is an attempted murderer and a different one was a cracked out pervert who sexually harassed a personal assistant

only the best!