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What's noticeable is the number of latino speakers the republicans have had.

One of the MSNBC commentators noted it. In typical cynical fashion, her (Maddow) statement was "that's all the republicans that are latino" but to her credit she did point out the only elected latino the democrats could seem to find is the mayor of LA.
 
Denny Crane said:
What's noticeable is the number of latino speakers the republicans have had.

One of the MSNBC commentators noted it. In typical cynical fashion, her (Maddow) statement was "that's all the republicans that are latino" but to her credit she did point out the only elected latino the democrats could seem to find is the mayor of LA.
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Although he's not a current elected Bill Richardson says hello.



Also (and granted, it's via wiki. I removed "former" examples, at least the ones that were obvious. I did this not to prove that one party is better than others, but that it's not as uncommon as one might think.)

Democratic Party
Joe Baca (U.S. Representative from California)
Xavier Becerra (U.S. Representative from California, former chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Gery Chico (chairman of the Illinois State Board of Education)
Charlie Gonzalez (U.S. Representative from Texas, chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Raúl Grijalva (U.S. Representative from Arizona)
Luis Gutiérrez (U.S. Representative from Illinois)
Rubén Hinojosa (U.S. Representative from Texas)
Bob Menendez (U.S. Senator and former U.S. Representative from New Jersey, former chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and House Democratic Caucus)
Gloria Molina (chairwoman of the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority)
Grace Napolitano (U.S. Representative from California, former chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Ed Pastor (U.S. Representative from Arizona, former chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Silvestre Reyes (U.S. Representative from Texas, former chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Lucille Roybal-Allard (U.S. Representative from California, former chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Ken Salazar (U.S. Secretary of the Interior, former U.S. Senator from Colorado, former Attorney General of Colorado)
Linda Sánchez (U.S. Representative from California)
Loretta Sánchez (U.S. Representative from California)
José Enrique Serrano (U.S. Representative from New York, former chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Hilda Solis (U.S. Secretary of Labor, former U.S. Representative from California)
Nydia Velázquez (U.S. Representative from New York, former chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, first Puerto Rican woman to be elected to Congress)
Antonio Villaraigosa (Mayor of Los Angeles, former Speaker of the California State Assembly)


Republican Party (these lists were "notable" examples, so it's not an exhaustive list):

Henry Bonilla (former U.S. Congressman from Texas)
Francisco Canseco (U.S. Congressman from Texas)
Mario Diaz-Balart (U.S. Congressman from Florida)
Bill Flores (U.S. Congressman from Texas)
Jaime Herrera (U.S. Congresswoman from Washington State)
Raúl Labrador (U.S. Congressman from Idaho)
Susana Martinez (Governor of New Mexico)
David Rivera (U.S. Congressman from Florida)
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (U.S. Congresswoman from Florida, first Latina in Congress)
Marco Rubio (U.S. Senator from Florida)
Brian Sandoval (Governor of Nevada)
Steve Montenegro (Member of the Arizona House of Representatives since January 2003.)
 
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(obviously fake but still funny)
 
julius said:
Although he's not a current elected Bill Richardson says hello.



Also (and granted, it's via wiki. I removed "former" examples, at least the ones that were obvious. I did this not to prove that one party is better than others, but that it's not as uncommon as one might think.)

Democratic Party
Joe Baca (U.S. Representative from California)
Xavier Becerra (U.S. Representative from California, former chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Gery Chico (chairman of the Illinois State Board of Education)
Charlie Gonzalez (U.S. Representative from Texas, chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Raúl Grijalva (U.S. Representative from Arizona)
Luis Gutiérrez (U.S. Representative from Illinois)
Rubén Hinojosa (U.S. Representative from Texas)
Bob Menendez (U.S. Senator and former U.S. Representative from New Jersey, former chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and House Democratic Caucus)
Gloria Molina (chairwoman of the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority)
Grace Napolitano (U.S. Representative from California, former chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Ed Pastor (U.S. Representative from Arizona, former chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Silvestre Reyes (U.S. Representative from Texas, former chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Lucille Roybal-Allard (U.S. Representative from California, former chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Ken Salazar (U.S. Secretary of the Interior, former U.S. Senator from Colorado, former Attorney General of Colorado)
Linda Sánchez (U.S. Representative from California)
Loretta Sánchez (U.S. Representative from California)
José Enrique Serrano (U.S. Representative from New York, former chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus)
Hilda Solis (U.S. Secretary of Labor, former U.S. Representative from California)
Nydia Velázquez (U.S. Representative from New York, former chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, first Puerto Rican woman to be elected to Congress)
Antonio Villaraigosa (Mayor of Los Angeles, former Speaker of the California State Assembly)


Republican Party (these lists were "notable" examples, so it's not an exhaustive list):

Henry Bonilla (former U.S. Congressman from Texas)
Francisco Canseco (U.S. Congressman from Texas)
Mario Diaz-Balart (U.S. Congressman from Florida)
Bill Flores (U.S. Congressman from Texas)
Jaime Herrera (U.S. Congresswoman from Washington State)
Raúl Labrador (U.S. Congressman from Idaho)
Susana Martinez (Governor of New Mexico)
David Rivera (U.S. Congressman from Florida)
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (U.S. Congresswoman from Florida, first Latina in Congress)
Marco Rubio (U.S. Senator from Florida)
Brian Sandoval (Governor of Nevada)
Steve Montenegro (Member of the Arizona House of Representatives since January 2003.)
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Chairwoman of the LA bus system? LOL
 
Denny Crane said:
Chairwoman of the LA bus system? LOL
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I didn't exactly edit what they said or their jobs. And I did clarify (or I meant to if i didn't) it WAS on Wiki.
 
I bet she gets down and is disappointed with romneys underfunded cawk.

{Poasted via palm pilot}
 
Flipped to the RNC coverage. Saw Clint and a bunch of other old white people. Promptly turned it back to football.
 
julius said:
I didn't exactly edit what they said or their jobs. And I did clarify (or I meant to if i didn't) it WAS on Wiki.
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I think the list is missing quite a few republican latinos.

From WikiPedia (another wiki):

Ted Cruz is running for senate.
The governor of Puerto Rico is a republican.
Some number of state senators and representatives (if chairman of the LA bus system counts...)

And if you do look just a little back in time (hello, Bill Richardson?):
Bush Secy. of Labor Linda Chavez
Bush Atty. General Alberto Gonzalez
GHW Bush Surgeon General Antonia Novello

Don't get me wrong, though. I think that strategically, that Latinos are and were a natural voting bloc for Republicans, but Republicans have effectively chased far too many (main street) Latinos from the party.
 
Agreed. I tried to find a decent list (granted, I didn't exhaust my search) and didn't find much out there. I KNOW there are plenty of minorities in both parties.
 
hoojacks said:
Dissesting Paul Ryan's Unbelievably Dishonest Republican Convention Speech
i enjoyed this
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Wow, that link is full of its own lies.

#1 - Obama took office with Bush's final budget at $3T. It's now $3.7T and he increased it to $3.6T immediately. Regardless of how fast govt. has grown from $3.6T going forward, it has still spent $600B + $600B + $600B + $600B more than the levels it was spending when Bush left office. That's $2.4T in increased spending on his watch, not to mention another $2.5T in spending by the fed via QE1 and QE3 (they printed money and spent it). To boot, congress unanimously rejected his budget proposals, or the increases year over year would have been higher.

#3 - The Detroit newspaper wrote this, just this morning:
http://www.freep.com/article/201208...The-facts-about-Janesville-GM-plant-s-closure

And even though he wasn't president, General Motors and Chrysler did get word that they would be receiving a bridge loan from the U.S. Treasury in mid-December, 2008, before the plant stopped producing GM vehicles. It continued to produce some cars for Isuzu and completely shut down mid-2009.

(So the plant WAS open well into Obama's first year in office, just not producing GM vehicles).

I didn't waste my time looking at the rest of your link.
 
Denny Crane said:
And even though he wasn't president, General Motors and Chrysler did get word that they would be receiving a bridge loan from the U.S. Treasury in mid-December, 2008, before the plant stopped producing GM vehicles. It continued to produce some cars for Isuzu and completely shut down mid-2009.

(So the plant WAS open well into Obama's first year in office, just not producing GM vehicles).
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I learned a fun fact coming home yesterday. The plant was scheduled to shut down production before obama went into office, but a crew stayed on as you mentioned and then they locked their doors, as Paul Ryan said. Because the plant is not producing, but it is not shut down permanently. It is on stand-by if GM gets enough orders, and will start producing again. A semantic, Paul Ryan did not want to be caught lying about.

PS You aren't skipping the other "lies" because you don't have stuff to counter, right? ;]
 
westnob said:
I learned a fun fact coming home yesterday. The plant was scheduled to shut down production before obama went into office, but a crew stayed on as you mentioned and then they locked their doors, as Paul Ryan said. Because the plant is not producing, but it is not shut down permanently. It is on stand-by if GM gets enough orders, and will start producing again. A semantic, Paul Ryan did not want to be caught lying about.

PS You aren't skipping the other "lies" because you don't have stuff to counter, right? ;]
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I don't see the point in debunking the bad logic all the way through the article, as it's already demonstrated the logic is bad in the first place :)

However, I'd be willing to bet we won't see any kind of fact checking from these sources on DNC speeches, eh?
 
Imagine the republicans parading women and latinos on stage during their convention, then in the heart of Florida and its retirement community they gave 82 year old Clint Eastwood a short speech during a key moment.

While I think he underperformed expectations, he is roughly of the greatest generation and spoke to them. He spoke to an empty chair, symbolic of the fact that Obama doesn't listen. He hit the nail on the head with several of his points:

1) Escalated the war in Afghanistan, how did the Russians fare? And why give a pull-out date instead of bringing the troops home now?
2) How fucked up is this country because it's run by lawyers?
3) There are 23 million unemployed, it is a disgrace.
4) Obama hasn't lived up to the hype.
5) Obama promised to close gitmo, then went down the path of putting terrorists on trial in NYC.
6) Biden is the intellect of the Democrat party (LOL)
7) Time to step aside and let a stellar businessman take over.
8) You're a hypocrite, since you talk about ecology buy fly around in a big plane and are driven around in SUVs.
9) Elected officials are our employees, WE own this country.
10) Obama has failed at the job, we should fire people who fail at the job.
11) Obama may be a nice guy, but that's no reason to reelect him.
12) Obama may not be such a nice guy - look at the ads he runs.

There may be real danger of a backlash against those who make fun of the guy. We will see.
 
Denny Crane said:
Imagine the republicans parading women and latinos on stage during their convention, then in the heart of Florida and its retirement community they gave 82 year old Clint Eastwood a short speech during a key moment.

While I think he underperformed expectations, he is roughly of the greatest generation and spoke to them. He spoke to an empty chair, symbolic of the fact that Obama doesn't listen. He hit the nail on the head with several of his points:

1) Escalated the war in Afghanistan, how did the Russians fare? And why give a pull-out date instead of bringing the troops home now?
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Except that that contradicts Romney's stance, which is that Obama is pulling out too soon.

2) How fucked up is this country because it's run by lawyers?
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Pretty sure Romney has a law degree from Harvard, just like Obama.

There may be real danger of a backlash against those who make fun of the guy. We will see.
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Yes, other Alzheimer's patients may well take offense. But then they'll probably forget to vote, so it doesn't matter.

barfo
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
I could hear him, I just didn't understand what he was trying to say . . . or maybe I somewhat understood it, it was just wierd to me.
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ah okay. Yeah, his speech seemed par for the course of an octogenarian.
 
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