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Yao kills us. They didn't make a big enough effort to get the ball into him. I know we played good defense on him and as they rotated the ball, Greg and Joel managed to keep him fronted. But HOLY FUCKIN HELL! If I was a Rockets fan I would be pulling my hair out watching Aaron Brooks and Ron Artest dribble the clock out while Yao just fights and waits to rebound the ill-advised shot.

Let's all hope they abandon Yao again on Thursday.
 
Yao kills us. They didn't make a big enough effort to get the ball into him. I know we played good defense on him and as they rotated the ball, Greg and Joel managed to keep him fronted. But HOLY FUCKIN HELL! If I was a Rockets fan I would be pulling my hair out watching Aaron Brooks and Ron Artest dribble the clock out while Yao just fights and waits to rebound the ill-advised shot.

Let's all hope they abandon Yao again on Thursday.

If you want to watch a clueless basketball team then watch the Bulls try to execute a play that isn't off the fast break (wow, they take bad shots!) In my opinion the Rockets aren't clueless they are just frustrated and a little impatient -- Brooks looks a little lost running an offense; I mean he's a talented scorer for sure and quick as lightning, but like most young point guards he seems to really struggle making the timely pass.
 
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this is the problem with the rockets. one of the reasons they were better after tmac shut it down and alston was traded is because those guys were even worse at getting yao involved. but artest still fails to make smart plays a lot of the time and brooks is hit or miss in that regard.

brooks still has time to develop into a guy who knows the right play to make. artest is beyond help.
 
I live in fear of the Rockets discovering they should run an inside-out offense around Yao.
 
Ya, how we bitch about Oden not getting the ball, just imagine what it'd be like to be a Houston fan and the Rockets don't get the ball to Yao! I know I'd be so piss. Oden is at least a rookie so there is some excuse, but Yao seems to always hit his shot, open a easy shot for someone else, or draws a foul. A lot of credit is due to our centers and even LMA at time, but they are not trying near as hard as they could to get Yao the ball. As others have said hope it continues! From what I've read they do have problems when teams fronts Yao and if they start to panic worrying about another 1 round and out they just might be even more impatient!!
 
I still don't get why they just simply look at him, and if he's fronted, they just go one on one and ignore him. The dude is 7-6! Just throw it up there and let him grab it. No one is going to outstretch him if you throw the ball up 8 feet in the air. But good for us I guess.
 
I still don't get why they just simply look at him, and if he's fronted, they just go one on one and ignore him. The dude is 7-6! Just throw it up there and let him grab it. No one is going to outstretch him if you throw the ball up 8 feet in the air. But good for us I guess.

Yao's hands aren't that great. There's a reason they don't throw a lot of lobs for him; he needs a bounce pass or chest pass.
 
Yao's hands aren't that great. There's a reason they don't throw a lot of lobs for him; he needs a bounce pass or chest pass.

He can't really jump, either. So a leaper could intercept that pass pretty easily. Heck, Outlaw's leapt in there to block his shot a few times in the series. If 6-8" Outlaw can block Yao, then Yao's not getting up there very high.
 
Yao's hands aren't that great. There's a reason they don't throw a lot of lobs for him; he needs a bounce pass or chest pass.

So if he's posting up and he stretches his arms straight up in the air, he can't catch the ball? Man... seems like he's a little more skilled than that.
 
This problem goes way back to even the Steve Francis and Cutino Mobley years. And on his Chinese team. Yao has never had somebody who could deliver him the ball.

I've been blaming the Rockets' offense, as recently as fifteen minutes ago. But now that I think about it, if the same team problem plagues a player for six straight years, on both the NBA level and the international level, at some point you have to stop blaming the teams and look at the player.

When was the last time anybody ever complained about Duncan not getting enough touches? Has that problem ever plagued him over a major part of a season? Yet much of his career has been played next to a shoot-first PG in Parker.

How about Shaq? Sure, he's bitched to the media at times about touches, but it might've been after 4 or 5 games. It's never struck me as a systemic problem on any team he's been on.

Maybe the Rockets are stymied by Yao being fronted because Yao is stymied by Yao being fronted.
 
Yao just isn't very agile moving side to side to open himself to a pass - something Both Duncan and Shaq were. They just made themselves available for a pass better. This is one of the reasons I really want to see Oden regaining his explosive athletic ability next year. If we do not give him the ball more often then - we are doing something wrong.
 
This problem goes way back to even the Steve Francis and Cutino Mobley years. And on his Chinese team. Yao has never had somebody who could deliver him the ball.

I've been blaming the Rockets' offense, as recently as fifteen minutes ago. But now that I think about it, if the same team problem plagues a player for six straight years, on both the NBA level and the international level, at some point you have to stop blaming the teams and look at the player.

When was the last time anybody ever complained about Duncan not getting enough touches? Has that problem ever plagued him over a major part of a season? Yet much of his career has been played next to a shoot-first PG in Parker.

How about Shaq? Sure, he's bitched to the media at times about touches, but it might've been after 4 or 5 games. It's never struck me as a systemic problem on any team he's been on.

Maybe the Rockets are stymied by Yao being fronted because Yao is stymied by Yao being fronted.
of course yao has always played on a team with steve francis, tracy mcgrady, or ron artest. all three of those guys were capable of getting yao the ball, but also have felt like they deserve to be able to do whatever they want on offense and run the show. the rockets are doing well now because artest has the worst guard skills of the 3, so he is unable to actually force the offense to himself as much as he would like.
 
of course yao has always played on a team with steve francis, tracy mcgrady, or ron artest. all three of those guys were capable of getting yao the ball, but also have felt like they deserve to be able to do whatever they want on offense and run the show. the rockets are doing well now because artest has the worst guard skills of the 3, so he is unable to actually force the offense to himself as much as he would like.

I would encourage the Rockets to let Ron Ron be the point guard he's always wanted to be.
 
I would encourage the Rockets to let Ron Ron be the point guard he's always wanted to be.
that would be great for the blazers.

i would encourage the rockets to let artest walk in the offseason.
 
that would be great for the blazers.

i would encourage the rockets to let artest walk in the offseason.

Seriously? I mean, I can see how frustrating it is, but the guy has been a great defender, and he's actually got a nice perimeter shot (finally).

I'd actually love to have Artest in a Blazers' uniform. Our team has great ball movement, so much so that even Outlaw seems to exist reasonably well in it (well, he did until this series).

If we could swap out Batum and Outlaw's minutes and insert Artest (bench Batum, let Outlaw walk), we'd have a kick ass team. And Roy wouldn't be stuck guarding all the great swingmen during crunch time.

I know there's the whole "anti-Jail Blazers" thing to consider, but we've got so many choir boys, and Roy has such a strong personality. And the team has such a no-nonsense approach to the game. You just know Przybilla and Roy could keep him in line.

One caveat: Portland shouldn't sign him for more than two years. With a guy like Artest, you just can not even consider a long-term contract. He's just too volatile. Any team that signs him needs an exit strategy. Provided you have that, though, he'd be a great pickup.
 
Seriously? I mean, I can see how frustrating it is, but the guy has been a great defender, and he's actually got a nice perimeter shot (finally).
seriously. i don't want to have to deal with the guy. i loved the move when they brought him in. it was a huge upgrade in getting him for how little the rockets had to give up. but i'm ready for him to leave. yes, he's a great defender but he's not a smart defender. he's just a good player period but one who just makes incredibly stupid plays far too often and can't be relied on. a crazy fadeaway 3 is never a better option than getting the ball in the post. and he makes dumb defensive plays as well. against the lakers this year(in a game artest was in the process of singlehandedly losing), he wildly gambled for a steal when there were three seconds left on the shot clock leaving kobe wide open to knock down a 3.

there is no doubt in my mind that if the rockets are able to put away the blazers in this series, that ron artest will personally give away two games that the rockets have a shot at winning against the lakers just through stupid plays. i'd rather have a more reliable player even if he's consistently worse than artest is at the times artest is playing well.

i think it could be argued that the only player who has made dumber plays than artest this season is zach randolph.
 
yeah that has to be frustrating for houston coaches and fans. maybe they go after nash or kidd? i'm not sure of their cap situation
 
Yao is a rhythm player. Other than dunks, notice the shots he hits...they're in the context of a fluid motion. As long as the Blazers disrupt that, Yao will become less and less effective.
 
Yao kills us. They didn't make a big enough effort to get the ball into him. I know we played good defense on him and as they rotated the ball, Greg and Joel managed to keep him fronted. But HOLY FUCKIN HELL! If I was a Rockets fan I would be pulling my hair out watching Aaron Brooks and Ron Artest dribble the clock out while Yao just fights and waits to rebound the ill-advised shot.

Let's all hope they abandon Yao again on Thursday.

hope Yao join the Blazers,abandon 50 years old Rookie he can't do nothing except fouls
 
I don't know if this got posted already but I found this interesting.
I think the Rockets will still win this series against the Blazers, but there are some trends that I definitely don't like and I think there are some things to be concerned about.

When people would tell me there is good news and bad news and then ask which one I wanted to hear first I used to always say "bad news" first because I figured if I got the bad out of the way I would finish the conversation on a good note with my "good news." What I found was that the bad news always affected my ability to enjoy the good news.

I am going to give you my thoughts on the good news and bad news regarding the Rockets and their playoff lives, but I'm going to go with the good news first so you can enjoy yourselves for at least a few paragraphs.

Good News

* The Rockets top scoring threat, Yao Ming, has been held in check the entire playoff series (save the first half of game 1 when Portland decided not to front him) and yet the Rockets are leading the series 3-2 and have had opportunities to win Games 2 and 5.

* The Blazers two best players are combining for 50 points or more like it's nothing and yet the Rockets are able to hang right with the Blazers even in Portland.

* Yao Ming and the Rockets are finally starting to make a little headway in defeating the fronting defense of Portland. Don't get me wrong, he's still relatively ineffective in comparison to what he's able to do when teams play behind him, but it looks like Yao is developing a better understanding of how to get open and which angles to look for (generally entry passes from the wing towards the baseline seem to have the most success).

* Luis Scola's ability to consistently hit the mid range jumper - especially at the elbow of the FT line and a few feet beyond - will give the Rockets a great chance to win in Game 6 and an above average chance to win in Game 7 if needed.

* The refs are more than willing to call fouls on Greg Oden and Joel Przybilla for their physical play. Is it as often as Rocket fans would like? No, but realistically, they are getting whistled plenty and that will pay off if the Rockets are making their free throws.

* If Oden and Przybilla are both in foul trouble and they have to go with Aldridge on Yao, they are in deep trouble. Both Oden and Prissy work hard at fronting Yao, but Aldridge gives very little effort in trying to stay in front of Yao and it leads to easy baskets when 11 gets the ball with Aldridge on him.

* The Blazers have nobody quick enough to stick with Von Wafer. He might be relegated to instant offense status, but when he puts the ball on the ground, there isn't a Blazer on the roster who can stick with him so he should have plenty of opportunities to score on pull up jumpers and penetrations in Games 6 and 7 if that game is necessary.


Bad News

* Ron Artest has abandoned his physical "bull in a china shop" mentality and decided that he is more effective 20 feet or more from the basket or on 18-foot, step-back, off-balance fadeaway jumpers. In his five games against the Blazers, he is 7-of-25 from the 3-point line and 8-of-10 from the free-throw line. That is a very passive 5-to-2 ratio of three attempts to free throw attempts per game. To put it in perspective, Artest is averaging 3.5 three-point attempts and 4.8 free throw attempts per game for his career. Butch it up a little, Crazy Ron.

* Aaron Brooks went from explosive penetrator with a deft touch from 3 to Captain Overdribble who can't finish around the rim and is only 10-of-36 from the field over his last three games including 2-of-12 from the 3-point line. Steve Blake is outplaying the combination of Aaron Brooks and Kyle Lowry. That is not a good trend for the Rockets.

* There are possessions when the Rockets are working their tails off to get Yao Ming the ball, but many times they aren't able to make the entry pass until there are about 6 seconds left on the shot clock and by then, Nate McMillan is sending a double team at Yao which is forcing the Rockets to take some poor shots late in the possession.

* After scoring 108 and 103 in their first two games, the Rockets offense has managed only 86, 89 and 77 over their last three games. The Blazers have either stepped up their defense or they've figured out a few new ways to slow the Rockets offense. My guess is that it is a combination of both.

* I might have been wrong about the team needing to get rid of Rick Adelman, but I'll stand by my assertion that he hasn't had a great feel for his substitutions this series. Why take a scorching Von Wafer out for so long against the Blazers in Game 2? Why go back to Aaron Brooks in crunch time when his decision making, shooting and defense has been so suspect? Why keep a red-hot Luis Scola out for the first 8 minutes and 14 seconds of the second quarter when you couldn't get any offense going? Go back to Scola no later than 6 minutes into the quarter when he's playing like he was.

* The Blazers are gaining more and more confidence in themselves with every passing game and the Rockets simply don't have an answer for Brandon Roy or LaMarcus Aldridge. That's bad enough, but the killer is that Rudy Fernandez and Steve Blake are getting wide-open looks and they are nailing them. When Blake isn't getting open 3-point looks, he's getting into the line with ease against the Rockets PGs. There really isn't a position on the floor where the Rockets have an overwhelming advantage other than center and even that advantage has been tempered by the Blazers defense.
Source: http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2009/04/the_rockets_will_be_just_fine_1.html
 
"Both Oden and Prissy work hard at fronting Yao"

"Oden and Prissy"

"Prissy"

:smiley-bash:
 
I think the "bad news" should have said: "Portland made a ton of stupid mistakes in games 3 and 4 AND we had the big foul disparity on our side, and we still only won by 3 and 1". IMO
 
I was just saying what he had said, but in chinese. lame attempt at a joke. I just liked the "His Britain is better" part.
 

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