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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think it is very possible yes. From looking at everything, and the disputes against the claims and with how everything has turned out at this point..it makes a lot of sense.But I've had this argument 10X before, and really don't feel like havin it again. I hear Cuban is gonna pay for an actual movie of Loose Change to hit the theaters, with Charlie Sheen as the narrator. I think that should be interesting once they clear up a few mistakes in the video which were made.</div> Well, considering there's absolutely no proof the United States was involved....I get a little pissy when people say the U.S. was involved. People that believe the US was behind 9/11 are ignorant of the entire pre-9/11 plotting and setup...Now Hollywood is getting involved? Ugh....I've lost a lot of respect for Mark Cuban if what you said is true. To believe 9/11 was masterminded by the US, is to believe the US and Al-Qaeda were working together hand-in-hand.
 
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I don't see why I'm ignorant to having an open mind to something.If you haven't noticed, we seem to have a pretty corrupt government at this period of time.The only thing that keeps me from believing it 100% is that for all of this to happen, it would have had to a been done completely perfectly. And even so, knowing not ONE person has come forward that knew about this beforehand feeling guilty or wanting to expose the truth..is what keeps me from believing it totally. But that doesn't stop me from totally being oblivious to everything else that day and the days leading up to the event, and what has takin place since then.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see why I'm ignorant to having an open mind to something.If you haven't noticed, we seem to have a pretty corrupt government at this period of time.The only thing that keeps me from believing it 100% is that for all of this to happen, it would have had to a been done completely perfectly. And even so, knowing not ONE person has come forward that knew about this beforehand feeling guilty or wanting to expose the truth..is what keeps me from believing it totally. But that doesn't stop me from totally being oblivious to everything else that day and the days leading up to the event, and what has takin place since then.</div> Our government's always been corrupt., no more now than it was 100 years ago. I just feel that most conspiracy theorists on the 9/11 issue don't understand how the 9/11 plot was created. They only look at what happened on the day of 9/11 and not the 4 previous years it took in planning. I just find it hard to believe that our country worked with Al-Qaeda, it doesn't make any sense. In fact, anyone who reads about the 9/11 plot, the entire thing, would come to the conclution that the US was not beyind it, I've read at least 4 books on it, I wish these conspiracy people took the time to look into everything before making such a accusation.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Captain, is she annoying sometimes? Sure.But at the same time we need more people like her on TV. I'm so sick of a lot of garbage on here where you have to keep your mouth shut and not state how you feel. Is some of the stuff she says disagreeable with and dumb? Sure but you could say that about everybody who has opinions. She is a very opinionated person. I would rather have subscription based TV so people could say whatever they wanted and didn't have to worry about losin advertisers because of it and peta.So while Rosie can be annoying, I do appreciate her speaking her mind. If it gets annoying it's because the media is watching very closely at every second to take the next thing she says and make a big controversy out of it. That to me is what gets annoying. Not an hour of talk out of her.</div>Why is Imus being destroyed, and people are calling for his head? Yet Rosie can get away with anything she says. Why is Rush Limbaugh attacked over and over? Isn't he only speaking his mind?If Limbaugh made any statements as controversial as her, he'd be getting raped up the butt by every media outlet, people demanding that he be fired. Yet Rosie has people defending her, saying it's good ratings and that's what we need. Saying that she's a good person speaking her mind and telling it like it is.I just don't understand.
 
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Yeah, you're right. There is a lot of Rosie love in the world. Look in this thread, where was all the Rosie love? Not one person.Rosie gets heat for everything she says. Please.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why is Imus being destroyed, and people are calling for his head? Yet Rosie can get away with anything she says. Why is Rush Limbaugh attacked over and over? Isn't he only speaking his mind?If Limbaugh made any statements as controversial as her, he'd be getting raped up the butt by every media outlet, people demanding that he be fired. Yet Rosie has people defending her, saying it's good ratings and that's what we need. Saying that she's a good person speaking her mind and telling it like it is.I just don't understand.</div>
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And this board represents the whole nation?</div>No but if you asked 10 people if they liked Rosie O'Donnell I bet at least 8 of them, if not 9 of them would say they didn't like her. This board is a part of the nation tho, yes.She is not well liked at all. Ratings are up and people watch her not because they like her, or admire her for anything she does..but because she's fun to watch and controversial. Theres so much boring television on nowadays(ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNING..DAMN IT'S BAD), that I can see why they'd flip to her.
 
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Rosie doesn't get attacked because she is liberal, and the media is liberal as well. Rush Limbaugh gets attacked because he is a conservitive and the media is not. Imus is in hot water because what he said goes against this liberal BS the media stands for. this is also why the 9/11 conspiracies can thrive, because the media wants to take down George Bush and his cronies. the biggest evidence that the Bush admin was not behind 9/11 is that there have been no leaks out of it, and it went off pretty much without a hitch. The Bush whitehouse leaks like an old facet, there's been about 50 major leaks in their six years in office, yet none of them have been about them masterminding 9/11. if they were behind it, it would have leaked out by now. also, everything the Bush admin touches turns to sh*t. This administration is one of the biggest F*ck ups in world history, and I'm not talking about just Iraq, because everything from the NCLB act to trying to curve gas prices has gone down the shitter with these clowns. So I honestly believe that these jackass couldn't have pulled off such an attack without f*cking it all up. and just because a lot of people believe it doesn't mean it's true, a lot of people thought Y2K was going to end us all, and we're still here.
 
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Exactly. If Georgie and his administration are so stupid and dumb, how could they pull something of this magnitude off, when they can't do anything else right?
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Exactly. If Georgie and his administration are so stupid and dumb, how could they pull something of this magnitude off, when they can't do anything else right?</div>Who said they were dumb?IMO they are probably the most brilliant administration I have ever seen. The guy didn't even win the presidency legit, and nobody really cared.The guy completely screwed the country up to maximize his profit and agenda. He can't speak publicly. He is viewed as one of the biggest jokes in the world. And yet when it was time for re-election he had all of you idiots defending him and going to re-elect him. To me, that is brilliant. More than brilliant. To get away with everything that this administration has done, and get away with it completely for the last 6 years and barely being scrutinized..has to be applauded.And Redneck, spare me that we get picked on BS. It has been the exact opposite since I can remember, and only recently have the republicans and their backers faced any type of scrutiny. It was the Liberals who had to deal with that for so long, as they were just sooo crazy
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9/11 was planned largely during the Clinton administration...so I don't understand people who say Bush and his people where in on it....Bush took office like 7 or so months before 9/11...The 9/11 plot took form in 1997 just after Clinton was elected his 2nd term.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 11 2007, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>9/11 was planned largely during the Clinton administration...so I don't understand people who say Bush and his people where in on it....Bush took office like 7 or so months before 9/11...The 9/11 plot took form in 1997 just after Clinton was elected his 2nd term.</div>So, now we blame it on Clinton. :doh: I don't know if you can blame the U.S. for 9/11, I do not think it was planned, but, hey anything is possible.But what Combs said about Roise is 100 percent right on. People have been attacked when they have strongly spoke out about Bush.Remember the dixie chicks? They spoke about going to Iraq, and look at what happened to them. They were considered "unamerican/unpatriotic" and their recorders took a huge hit. People are so afriad these days to truely speak their mind...and Combs nailed that summary right on the dot.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who said they were dumb?IMO they are probably the most brilliant administration I have ever seen. The guy didn't even win the presidency legit, and nobody really cared.</div>You believe he rigged the voting machines too? Whatever. I'm not going to say anything. Believe what you want.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The guy completely screwed the country up to maximize his profit and agenda. He can't speak publicly. He is viewed as one of the biggest jokes in the world. And yet when it was time for re-election he had all of you idiots defending him and going to re-elect him.</div>I honestly don't think Kerry would have been any better. But, I guess we will never know.And I'd like it if you refrained from the name calling please. Thanks.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>To me, that is brilliant. More than brilliant. To get away with everything that this administration has done, and get away with it completely for the last 6 years and barely being scrutinized..has to be applauded.</div>To get away with what? Plotting 9/11? Rigging the votes? Going to war just for oil? All things that have zero evidence and are just conspiracies?There has been controversy with him, but with all of that, he's never gotten away with something. He's always been attacked for things that were controversial.And I can't believe you are sitting here telling me Bush has barely been scrutinized. He's probably the most hated man in America right now.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And I can't believe you are sitting here telling me Bush has barely been scrutinized. He's probably the most hated man in America right now.</div>And rightfully so.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Apr 11 2007, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So, now we blame it on Clinton. :doh: I don't know if you can blame the U.S. for 9/11, I do not think it was planned, but, hey anything is possible.</div> I'm not blaming Clinton or Bush, blaming a President for a terrorist attack is foolish considering it's not the President's job, it's out national security's job.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Apr 11 2007, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Remember the dixie chicks? They spoke about going to Iraq, and look at what happened to them. They were considered "unamerican/unpatriotic" and their recorders took a huge hit.</div>That's why their sales went off the charts?
 
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The Dixie Chicks were pretty much blacklisted from southern radio stations, it's pretty unfair, but the people that took them off have said that the Dixie Chicks music was not really 'country' music anyway.
 
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Dixie chicks is another situation entierly. they are country singers, and country music is very paterotic and they support Republican beliefs. What they said did piss off a lot of their fans, but their comments about Bush was one of only a few which caused their fans to turn on them. They also said things about Toby Keith, Garth Brooks, Arnold Schartzenegger(Sp) and a few other major country artist. Natalie Maines(Lead singer) also wore a T-shirt on the CMA's which had the letters FUTK(or F*ck you Toby Keith). The Album they had at the time sucked majorly, they went completly away from what made them famous and for the most part the songs were poorly written. when they didn't win any awards they got mad and really said some nasty things about the industry, and the people who listen to it. If they had only said bad things about Bush I think their careers would have been fine, but it was all the other things. I also dont think the reaction would have been as bad if they had said it in the US, some felt like they were to cowardly to bash the president in the states that they shouldn't bash him at all.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And I can't believe you are sitting here telling me Bush has barely been scrutinized. He's probably the most hated man in America right now.</div>I said for the first 6 years. It is only now after so many people took heat in the beginning for criticizing Bush like it was not allowed(where do we live again?) that people finally decided to listen and take a 2nd look and realize the liberals weren't just talking out of their asses.And I said "You idiots" in general for all the Bush defenders and people who re-elected Bush. It was not directed to you, don't be so sensitive. Thanks.And I love how what Republicans fall back on is that John Kerry would have been just as bad. That is nonsense. For one, I don't think anybody could have done as sh*tty as a job. But mainly, John Kerry was not a bad candidate. He had good plans. He was well spoken. And he won every debate against Bush and displayed to me that he could have ran the country, and done it effectively.Bush's MAIN problem is that he doesn't listen. He doesn't care about the law. He is clueless to the American people and what they want..or he doesn't care. He does what he wants and say pluck everybody else. It's his way or the high way. And that is a ridiculous way to run the country. Kerry seemed like a main of the people to me. He was in touch with reality, and he listened. he was willing to change and adapt. And that was what was held against him somehow.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I said for the first 6 years. It is only now after so many people took heat in the beginning for criticizing Bush like it was not allowed(where do we live again?) that people finally decided to listen and take a 2nd look and realize the liberals weren't just talking out of their asses.And I said "You idiots" in general for all the Bush defenders and people who re-elected Bush. It was not directed to you, don't be so sensitive. Thanks.And I love how what Republicans fall back on is that John Kerry would have been just as bad. That is nonsense. For one, I don't think anybody could have done as sh*tty as a job. But mainly, John Kerry was not a bad candidate. He had good plans. He was well spoken. And he won every debate against Bush and displayed to me that he could have ran the country, and done it effectively.Bush's MAIN problem is that he doesn't listen. He doesn't care about the law. He is clueless to the American people and what they want..or he doesn't care. He does what he wants and say pluck everybody else. It's his way or the high way. And that is a ridiculous way to run the country. Kerry seemed like a main of the people to me. He was in touch with reality, and he listened. he was willing to change and adapt. And that was what was held against him somehow.</div> I think Kerry would be a better President, I would have voted for him, he did cleary win those debates before the election. Bush was elected twice for a reason, people knew what his ideas were so I don't see what the problem is with him doing what he's been saying the last 6 years. I'd rather a President do what he believes then to do whatever the polls indicate he should do. Even though I can't stand Bush, at least he sticks by what he does. My thing is, he told people what he was going to do, he got elected based on it, now he's doing it.
 
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Uh the president should represent the people. George Bush represents nobody except himself and his suck administration he put in place. I would rather have somebody who listened to us and was willing to make logical decisions with it. They seem to clearly have no idea what they are doing, and yet STILL aren't listening to what anybody is saying.How can you like that?
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Uh the president should represent the people. George Bush represents nobody except himself and his suck administration he put in place. I would rather have somebody who listened to us and was willing to make logical decisions with it. They seem to clearly have no idea what they are doing, and yet STILL aren't listening to what anybody is saying.How can you like that?</div> What the hell do you want George Bush to do? What don't they have a clue about? What should they be listening to people about?---------------------Rosie O'Donnell being offensive.
 
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Well at this point in time its gettin the troops home and getting this war over with. You got the people sending a message by getting the republicans out of there. You got the democrats pleading for him to listen. And you got the damn people we're "helping" there havin rallys saying for us to gtfo of their country.To me that is something he could at least consider?And nothing in that Rosie video was slightly offensive IMO but whatever.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well at this point in time its gettin the troops home and getting this war over with. You got the people sending a message by getting the republicans out of there. You got the democrats pleading for him to listen. And you got the damn people we're "helping" there havin rallys saying for us to gtfo of their country.To me that is something he could at least consider?</div> Why should George Bush cave into the Democrats? Bill Clinton didn't give into the Republican congress when he was in power. I personally don't think Iraq is stable enough yet to leave, there have always been Iraqi rallies for us to leave....I don't think we should rush out of there because a percentage of the Iraqi poplation wants us to leave.....
 
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That is what a year of planning and work is for..since it seems there has been little successful planning whatsoever.With no deadline, this thing could go on another 5 years..or forever. Eventually something has to happen.But your right, the pride of not caving in to the democrats is worth way more.
 
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Combs again, is right and owning pretty much everyone in this topic. I say Combs for president! :happy0144: But anyway, My Uncle (who is a law professor at The College of New Jersey, so don't think this isn't a relabile source like some bum off the streets, lol) told me he was watching a show, and one of Bush's former advisors or something said that Bush came to this advisor after 9/11, and said "It was Iraq." And the advisor said, "No, Mr. President, it was Afghanastan. The taliban and Osama Bin Laden was behind this." And the President replied, "That's wrong. It was Iraq."It seems as though Bush's vandetta versus Iraq or I should say Saddam forced him to thinking that Iraq had WMD and was 100% behind and linked to Osama, when none of this has any evidence to back it up...Point is, Bush does w/e the F*ck he wants and just acts like no one's thoughts matter...
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Apr 11 2007, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But anyway, My Uncle (who is a law professor at The College of New Jersey, so don't think this isn't a relabile source like some bum off the streets, lol) told me he was watching a show, and one of Bush's former advisors or something said that Bush came to this advisor after 9/11, and said "It was Iraq." And the advisor said, "No, Mr. President, it was Afghanastan. The taliban and Osama Bin Laden was behind this." And the President replied, "That's wrong. It was Iraq."It seems as though Bush's vandetta versus Iraq or I should say Saddam forced him to thinking that Iraq had WMD and was 100% behind and linked to Osama, when none of this has any evidence to back it up...Point is, Bush does w/e the F*ck he wants and just acts like no one's thoughts matter...</div> I like you as a poster Mardy, but when it comes to politics you have no idea what your talking about....it's like listening to the same liberal speech over and over with your posts. And by the way, Bill Clinton thought Iraq was a regional danger that had WMD's, and most European intelligence thought Iraq had WMD's, we weren't the only ones.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Apr 11 2007, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But anyway, My Uncle (who is a law professor at The College of New Jersey, so don't think this isn't a relabile source like some bum off the streets, lol) told me he was watching a show, and one of Bush's former advisors or something said that Bush came to this advisor after 9/11, and said "It was Iraq." And the advisor said, "No, Mr. President, it was Afghanastan. The taliban and Osama Bin Laden was behind this." And the President replied, "That's wrong. It was Iraq."It seems as though Bush's vandetta versus Iraq or I should say Saddam forced him to thinking that Iraq had WMD and was 100% behind and linked to Osama, when none of this has any evidence to back it up...Point is, Bush does w/e the F*ck he wants and just acts like no one's thoughts matter...</div>Which is why when asked about Osama said: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... We haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."</div>Of course he wasn't. All he ever cared about was Saddam and Iraq.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Which is why when asked about Osama said: Of course he wasn't. All he ever cared about was Saddam and Iraq.</div>yep, exactly.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Apr 11 2007, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Me: "Do you have any Italian in you?"Girl: "No, why?"Me: "Want some?"</div>Wow you player. Have you done like Bobby Hill and rented a motel room just to hold hands with your girlfriend? hahah
 
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