Roy is contemplating experimental meniscus transplant procedure on both knees

[Nikolokolus]

Oh I don't know... I guess from just watching games and reading the paper.

Well, who needs medical school when you've got that.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I do not want a Brandon Roy who is playing on transplanted meniscus', and still thinks he needs to be the man on this team.


And no, I don't see him changing

 

[barfo]

I do not want a Brandon Roy who is playing on transplanted meniscus', and still thinks he needs to be the man on this team.

If he's capable of being the man on this team, I don't care if he's playing on alien unicorn meniscus.

barfo

 

[Mediocre Man]

If he's capable of being the man on this team, I don't care if he's playing on alien unicorn meniscus.

barfo

Brandon Roy being the man on this tream = never advancing far in the playoffs

 

[Sug]

If he's capable of being the man on this team, I don't care if he's playing on alien unicorn meniscus.

barfo

Do you know how expensive that is? Roy couldn't even afford that, hell PA has only a small stash, but it is in a powder form. He uses it to get a week long erection for when he throws multiple orgies on the Octopus.

 

[barfo]

Brandon Roy being the man on this tream = never advancing far in the playoffs

No, that's Brandon Roy failing to be the man on this team.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Do you know how expensive that is? Roy couldn't even afford that, hell PA has only a small stash, but it is in a powder form. He uses it to get a week long erection for when he throws multiple orgies on the Octopus.

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[Colonel Ronan]

18 month recovery is a very long time. Is it really worth it? How old is he?

 

[Mediocre Man]

18 month recovery is a very long time. Is it really worth it? How old is he?

I look at it this way. If he has the surgery and knows it will be 2 more years before he is back on the court, it must be his only option. if that's the case, it is worth it for him.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

I look at it this way. If he has the surgery and knows it will be 2 more years before he is back on the court, it must be his only option. if that's the case, it is worth it for him.

That is true. One of our players (football) had a major knee operation that put him out for a year after picking up multiple knee injuries. It paid off in the long run.

 

[MIXUM]

anyone wanna bet roy returns when we trade miller?

 

[hasoos]

Frankly, if you're going to try something like this, it's the best time to do so. There's going to be a lockout, and it's likely going to be a long one. We may even lose the entire season.

Yep timing is everything, and now is the time.

 

[Nikolokolus]

anyone wanna bet roy returns when we trade miller?

That would be ... unfortunate.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I've been a Roy supporter from the begining and even understand what he is going through this year and why he has made the comments he has.

But if I'm PA, I'm pissed (assuming insurance in not in the picture). You're paying a guy a eight figure salary and he wants to try an experimnetal procedure? PA doesn't need the gamble to try and get back the old Roy. What the Blazers need is for at lesat Roy to try to contribute to the team. Roy doesn't need a transplant, he needs a mental makeover to accept things are different and his role is different.

Really Roy should be out there contributing in any way he can, not do some longshot procedure in hopes of returning to his glory days. Suit up, knock down shots when called on and help this team win games by any means that you can. Is that too much to ask from your boss when he is paying over 10 mil/yr?

 

[Kaydow]

I've been a Roy supporter from the begining and even understand what he is going through this year and why he has made the comments he has.

But if I'm PA, I'm pissed (assuming insurance in not in the picture). You're paying a guy a eight figure salary and he wants to try an experimnetal procedure? PA doesn't need the gamble to try and get back the old Roy. What the Blazers need is for at lesat Roy to try to contribute to the team. Roy doesn't need a transplant, he needs a mental makeover to accept things are different and his role is different.

Really Roy should be out there contributing in any way he can, not do some longshot procedure in hopes of returning to his glory days. Suit up, knock down shots when called on and help this team win games by any means that you can. Is that too much to ask from your boss when he is paying over 10 mil/yr?

Have you not watched him play this year? He can't move. His defense has gone from average at best to total liability. I disagree with what you are saying. If I'm PA, I ENCOURAGE Brandon to look into Meniscus Transplant. You payed the guy $80+ million to be the guy who leads you to championships, not a hobbled bench player who knocks down a few jumpers when he isn't sitting out games with soreness/swelling. How much are we really missing if THIS version of Brandon Roy misses the rest of the season? We don't know much about the procedure, or the doctors he's talking to. Sure, if the odds are 1/10 that he can come back to his old self w/o complications then maybe it's not worth it. But if there's a good chance that he could make a full recovery and the biggest con is we don't have him for a year (or maybe longer), then so what!! We don't know that this is a "longshot" procedure. Besides, what are the risks of the surgery? He could get a staph infection I suppose. But beyond that, if the transplant isn't successful, then rip it out of there and you're back to square one. It boils down to the fact that at this point Brandon's game isn't that effective, so you're not losing much (in fact we're probably better) when he sits out.

Lately Roy's been pretty honest about the pain he's in. If you believe him (and I do), it's too much to overcome. He can't just reinvent his game and persevere through it. It's not realistic. Anybody that watched him play saw it. He couldn't even run after loose balls. I hope that they find a doctor/procedure that gives Brandon an opportunity to return to the form that made him a 3 time All Star, even if it means he sits for 12 months (or, gasp, even 18).

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Have you not watched him play this year? He can't move. His defense has gone from average at best to total liability. I disagree with what you are saying. If I'm PA, I ENCOURAGE Brandon to look into Meniscus Transplant. You payed the guy $80+ million to be the guy who leads you to championships, not a hobbled bench player who knocks down a few jumpers when he isn't sitting out games with soreness/swelling. How much are we really missing if THIS version of Brandon Roy misses the rest of the season? We don't know much about the procedure, or the doctors he's talking to. Sure, if the odds are 1/10 that he can come back to his old self w/o complications then maybe it's not worth it. But if there's a good chance that he could make a full recovery and the biggest con is we don't have him for a year (or maybe longer), then so what!! We don't know that this is a "longshot" procedure. Besides, what are the risks of the surgery? He could get a staph infection I suppose. But beyond that, if the transplant isn't successful, then rip it out of there and you're back to square one. It boils down to the fact that at this point Brandon's game isn't that effective, so you're not losing much (in fact we're probably better) when he sits out.

Lately Roy's been pretty honest about the pain he's in. If you believe him (and I do), it's too much to overcome. He can't just reinvent his game and persevere through it. It's not realistic. Anybody that watched him play saw it. He couldn't even run after loose balls. I hope that they find a doctor/procedure that gives Brandon an opportunity to return to the form that made him a 3 time All Star, even if it means he sits for 12 months (or, gasp, even 18).

Yes I have watched him play. He isn't the Roy of old but he helped the team on nights. This terrible Roy you speak of was averaging double digit scoring this year. Wouldn't it be nice to have someone coming off the bench who gets double digit scoring on a consistent basis . . . I think Roy can do that now.

You don't think the procedure is a longshot . . . it's never been done before where a player has come back and played in the NBA (gasp). The fact is that Roy is contemplating calling it quits on the season while averaging 16 points to have some voodoo procedure in hopes of playing to all star level again. I gasp at that thought.

I'll take an 80 million dollar player coming off the bench and contributuing this year vs. and 80 million dollar player doing some uncharted treatment because he can't accept the fact his knees are shot.

You look at it as I paid 80 million I want the all star or bust. I look at it as I paid you 80 million, things took a bad turn so give me the best you got. there are many players with huge contracts who aren't playing all star level . . . doesn't mean they don't help the team.

 

[Draco]

I put the likelihood of this experimental untested surgery being a sucess at virtually 0. We are not talking about getting a guy back to a level of performance where he can be active on the weekends, playing some rec. league basketball and hiking around in the woods. We're talking about trying to get him to a performance level of the top 50 basketball players on the planet. He is going against guys who have prestine knees and elite athleticism. The procedure has to work not only once, but on two knees! Then he's suppose to try and regain the athleticism he had as a 22 year old?

It's more likely Greg Oden beats AC Greens record of consecutive games played!

I'm truly sadened by Roy's injuries but people are just going to have to accept his body for what it is. If he can still have any value as a basketball player then great, but its delusional to think he will regain what he's lost. Tracy McGrady, Penny Hardaway, Shawn Livingston, etc etc all these guys were great young guards but once you have permante damage to your body it will never perform as it originally did. The elite versions of those players are all dead and hoping some never tested before revolutionary surgery is going to come in and save the day is silly.

 

[e_blazer]

I put the likelihood of this experimental untested surgery being a sucess at virtually 0. We are not talking about getting a guy back to a level of performance where he can be active on the weekends, playing some rec. league basketball and hiking around in the woods. We're talking about trying to get him to a performance level of the top 50 basketball players on the planet. He is going against guys who have prestine knees and elite athleticism. The procedure has to work not only once, but on two knees! Then he's suppose to try and regain the athleticism he had as a 22 year old?

It's more likely Greg Oden beats AC Greens record of consecutive games played!

I'm truly sadened by Roy's injuries but people are just going to have to accept his body for what it is. If he can still have any value as a basketball player then great, but its delusional to think he will regain what he's lost. Tracy McGrady, Penny Hardaway, Shawn Livingston, etc etc all these guys were great young guards but once you have permante damage to your body it will never perform as it originally did. The elite versions of those players are all dead and hoping some never tested before revolutionary surgery is going to come in and save the day is silly.

Tell this to Tommy Johns.

I don't know whether Roy will decide to have the surgery, let alone whether it will allow him to return to play basketball at an NBA level. I do know that he's getting the best advice that there is and that medical knowledge is expanding at a rapid rate. I think I'll trust the decision-making process that he's going through over anything that I may read here.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Tell this to Tommy Johns.

I don't know whether Roy will decide to have the surgery, let alone whether it will allow him to return to play basketball at an NBA level. I do know that he's getting the best advice that there is and that medical knowledge is expanding at a rapid rate. I think I'll trust the decision-making process that he's going through over anything that I may read here.

That makes sense. But if Roy's mentality is to getting back to being the player he was (basically all star or bust) . . . shouldn't managment be part of that decision since they are paying so much for him.

Basically I'm leary of trusting Roy's decision making process if he is still of the mind set that he is the leader of the team and need to perform like that on the court. If that is his mindset, then he will try any treatment that might get him back to that.

Disclaimer: I'm not baggin on Roy. I think he is committed to the Blazer organization. I just wonder if he is having trouble accepting his circumstances (which again would be understandable).

 

[e_blazer]

What makes you think that the Blazers aren't involved in the process? Ultimately, any medical procedure will be the player's decision, but I'd be astounded if the Blazers and their medical staff weren't deeply involved in helping him find the best doctors and information available.

Just to be clear, if it's at all possible that Roy can contribute meaningful minutes this year, I'd rather he wait for this summer to have any surgery done. Since next season is likely to be a lost cause anyway, I'd rather get whatever we can out of this team while the getting is good.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

What makes you think that the Blazers aren't involved in the process? Ultimately, any medical procedure will be the player's decision, but I'd be astounded if the Blazers and their medical staff weren't deeply involved in helping him find the best doctors and information available.

Just to be clear, if it's at all possible that Roy can contribute meaningful minutes this year, I'd rather he wait for this summer to have any surgery done. Since next season is likely to be a lost cause anyway, I'd rather get whatever we can out of this team while the getting is good.

I was just responding to your post where you said you trust the decision making process he is going through (in hindsight I'm guessing you meant the Blazers were involved in that decision making process) . . . which is all I was saying really. Managment hopefully is involved and reallly should be involved.

 

[Nate Dogg]

Roy has to do something. Wait rot on the bench the remaining of the season and hardly play? What is PA and management going to think in the offseason? Roy has to be addressed this year and he should either go with this procedure or simply take back his salary and retire. I doubt PA wants to have Roy sit on the bench for the remain 2+ years for nothing. It would be another D.Miles situation and if Roy did the smart move he should do something because I doubt PA would have this roster spot not used.