Roy is not as good as he thinks

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OK, let's start with the Memphis loss. How does a team with Brandon Roy at the helm let a team like Memphis go on a 30-2 run??? If Roy was all that--if he was a superstar--he wouldn't have let that happen. He'd have found a way to stop the bleeding, right the ship, get the guys on track--pick your metaphor. He would have done SOMETHING, for God's sake, to prevent that catastrophe from happening. But he didn't.

I've seen enough lackadaisical play from Roy this season to last a lifetime. Why he insists on "coasting" through stretches of a game mystifies me. And he has developed a very annoying habit of throwing the ball toward the basket everytime he gets fouled. What's that all about? It makes him look ridiculous. Not to mention the stupid passes he keeps throwing. I've seen Roy make more bad passes, leading to more turnovers, already this year than I did all of last year. It's aggravating--and it's not something a superstar does.

Roy has taken a step backward from last season, and it's mystifying to me. I'm afraid--and I really hate to say this--that success has gone to his head. He just doesn't seem like the same player anymore.
 
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Let the cake bake....
 
A superstar has never lost to a bad team. Ever. This is the worst thing that could happen. How dare he.
 
Throwing the ball at the rim is to try to get the foul shots, so the refs know that hes in the act of shooting.
Theres nothing wrong with that.
Now, the thing that is annoying (and I'm positive the NBA refs feel this) is how on most drives with ANY contact whatsoever, Roy does his little scream/yelp.
It doesn't sound good, it's trying to persuade the refs (which they don't respond to), and he sounds like a wimp trying to get the sympathy call on every drive.

Shut yer pie hole Roy and man-up on the court (especially on D).
 
WillG said:
Throwing the ball at the rim is to try to get the foul shots, so the refs know that hes in the act of shooting.
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Duh. My point is that he does it excessively, and he only rarely gets the call. To heave the ball toward the basket everytime a player touches you just looks silly. It's a desperate act, and it's not going to influence the refs--especially when they see you do it on every play.
 
Shooter said:
OK, let's start with the Memphis loss. How does a team with Brandon Roy at the helm let a team like Memphis go on a 30-2 run??? If Roy was all that--if he was a superstar--he wouldn't have let that happen. He'd have found a way to stop the bleeding, right the ship, get the guys on track--pick your metaphor. He would have done SOMETHING, for God's sake, to prevent that catastrophe from happening. But he didn't.

I've seen enough lackadaisical play from Roy this season to last a lifetime. Why he insists on "coasting" through stretches of a game mystifies me. And he has developed a very annoying habit of throwing the ball toward the basket everytime he gets fouled. What's that all about? It makes him look ridiculous. Not to mention the stupid passes he keeps throwing. I've seen Roy make more bad passes, leading to more turnovers, already this year than I did all of last year. It's aggravating--and it's not something a superstar does.

Roy has taken a step backward from last season, and it's mystifying to me. I'm afraid--and I really hate to say this--that success has gone to his head. He just doesn't seem like the same player anymore.
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Well, we know success has gone to his head. Othewise he wouldn't feel as entitled as he has this season. I agree, there is nothing I hate more than seeing him pace and coast through out the game. I feel he hurts his team. But I don't feel he is a guy that can sell out for 48 mins. Not even a quarter of it. He's not built that way. I would like to see him put out more effort for longer stretches of the game though. It would do his team a lot of good. Not every game has to be a nail biter. I think he lives off that as a player. He loves the drama and heroics.
 
It does seem like just last year that Roy was known for not complaining. Now he argues pretty much every single call (or non-call).

barfo
 
Shooter is 100% correct. BRoy needs to adjust his perspective and attitude.
 
I watched that Memphis game - the Memphis players could not miss.

To me, the loss was more about poor defense than anything else. I've seen the Blazers have poor offensive outings before, but their defense always kept them in the game. Not this one.
 
Even Tim Duncan argues every call. It's no big deal. You almost have to argue.
 
Furthermore, I think we as fans need to take some responsibility for Roys behavior. We created him. We are the ones that have him propped so high that hee knows and understands how great and valuable he is to this organization. And he is great and valuable. But he has lost some of his humbleness this season. Not sure why, but he has. In time he will get back to his old self. Just a phase that he is going through IMO.
 
HAAK72 said:
...can anyone tell me what style of offense KP ran when he was coaching the interim, maybe he could put the icing on his own damn cake?! :dunno:
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Balls out fastbreak offense and full-court press defense.

You know, entertaining basketball.

I wish KP was coach, or at least the coach's boss. :sigh:
 
Shooter, I know your tunnel-like motive in starting this thread. But I'll play along anyway.

Roy has been elevated. A player can't be acquired unless he's the type who won't cause Roy to change his 1-on-1 game. Roy compares himself to Kobe and LeBron in interviews. Quick makes Roy the star of every article, even if the article is purportedly about another player. McMillan brings Roy up to sit next to him on the plane and discusses strategy as if Roy is an assistant coach, or as if he's asking Roy's permission to do something. After rookie Roy tattled to management that he thought the team's star Zach was an idiot, to some fans, that was the main reason they gave to trade Zach. Roy is just too elevated above his teammates.
 
the more important question... is Roy Shooter's new Sheed? Can we look forward to hundreds of new threads implying every human sin, flaw, and foible is wrapped up in one tragic man? Has the new messiah finally arrived?

STOMP
 
MARIS61 said:
Balls out fastbreak offense and full-court press defense.

You know, entertaining basketball.

I wish KP was coach, or at least the coach's boss. :sigh:
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...you mean the kind best suited for the team he baked...err...built :wub:
 
STOMP said:
the more important question... is Roy Shooter's new Sheed? Can we look forward to hundreds of new threads implying every human sin, flaw, and foible is wrapped up in one tragic man? Has the new messiah finally arrived?
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Roy could have been as good as LeBron James and Chris Paul had he cared more and worked harder.
 
jlprk said:
Shooter, I know your tunnel-like motive in starting this thread. But I'll play along anyway.
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You're wrong. I've been concerned about Roy's play all season, long before I heard about the tunnel business.

Roy has been elevated. A player can't be acquired unless he's the type who won't cause Roy to change his 1-on-1 game. Roy compares himself to Kobe and LeBron in interviews. Quick makes Roy the star of every article, even if the article is purportedly about another player. McMillan brings Roy up to sit next to him on the plane and discusses strategy as if Roy is an assistant coach, or as if he's asking Roy's permission to do something. After rookie Roy tattled to management that he thought the team's star Zach was an idiot, to some fans, that was the main reason they gave to trade Zach. Roy is just too elevated above his teammates.
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I agree. Success has gone to Roy's head. He's been treated like a god, and now he thinks he is one.
 
Do you really think Brandon is playing as hard as he can right now?
 
Funny to watch "Hard-while-Talking" get an anti-boner for Roy now that he "don't respect dem ders 'Merican Flag and Jingle-Jangle"
 
BenDavis503 said:
Do you really think Brandon is playing as hard as he can right now?
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I do. Absolutely. Are you accusing Roy of giving less than his best effort. In other words, are you accusing Roy of tanking?
 
PapaG said:
I do. Absolutely. Are you accusing Roy of giving less than his best effort. In other words, are you accusing Roy of tanking?
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IMHO, yes. I think that LMA has been *coasting the entire season. I think Roy is starting to, as well. I think the team is starting to get upset with Nate and are taking it out on the court. I really do. And I am not mad at them for doing it.

You really think Brandon is going to let the 24 second clock run out a couple times a game and just shrug his shoulders to the bench after like "oops, I wasn't paying attention"?

If I was mad at my boss, I would not perform as well as I could, and I think that is happening here.
 
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