Rubio could slip past 5?

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I think the level of competition thing is overrated. It has proven a rather poor predictor of NBA success, with surprising successes and busts on both sides of the equation.
 
41% from three and 39% overall suggests he can't finish well inside does it not? And thats against less athletic players.
 
I didn't want to start ANOTHER Rubio thread, so I'll stick this here...

Let's suppose the Grizzlies didn't draft Rubio (and Minny doesn't really trade Kevin Love for the chance to do so). I can actually see the Thunder considering some of our players because Presti is an ex-Spurs guy and might be intrigued by "character" players. With that in mind, what about this:

We give up:
Rudy (sob!), Sergio, Travis and Joel

We get:
Collison, Earl Watson (who did best under Nate, did he not?) and the #3.

Is that too stupid to contemplate? Would we give up too much? Would the Thunder just laugh in our faces? I dunno. The Thunder have Durant and Westbrook for scoring, but their bigs are either finesse (Krstic) or undersized (Green). Same problem as with Memphis - we don't have a PF to spare to offer, but I can see Presti really liking adding Joel for rebounding and defense (and Krstic can play PF in a pinch). The other three are to fill out the deal, and because I can't really see OKC giving up the #3 for JUST Joel. The players we get back are salary dumps by OKC.

I can also see Presti liking Freeland - although not enough to prefer him over Rudy, I'll bet.

Then we offer our 24 to anyone who takes either Collison or Watson off our hands, and use our cap space to sign someone to fill out the depleted roster.
 
I didn't want to start ANOTHER Rubio thread, so I'll stick this here...

Let's suppose the Grizzlies didn't draft Rubio (and Minny doesn't really trade Kevin Love for the chance to do so). I can actually see the Thunder considering some of our players because Presti is an ex-Spurs guy and might be intrigued by "character" players. With that in mind, what about this:

We give up:
Rudy (sob!), Sergio, Travis and Joel

We get:
Collison, Earl Watson (who did best under Nate, did he not?) and the #3.

Is that too stupid to contemplate? Would we give up too much? Would the Thunder just laugh in our faces? I dunno. The Thunder have Durant and Westbrook for scoring, but their bigs are either finesse (Krstic) or undersized (Green). Same problem as with Memphis - we don't have a PF to spare to offer, but I can see Presti really liking adding Joel for rebounding and defense (and Krstic can play PF in a pinch). The other three are to fill out the deal, and because I can't really see OKC giving up the #3 for JUST Joel. The players we get back are salary dumps by OKC.

I can also see Presti liking Freeland - although not enough to prefer him over Rudy, I'll bet.

Then we offer our 24 to anyone who takes either Collison or Watson off our hands, and use our cap space to sign someone to fill out the depleted roster.

Basically that would be trading Rudy, Sergio, Outlaw AND Joel for...#3 (Rubio) because you mention dumping #24 (Collison or Watson) somewhere?

I would not trade Rudy for Rubio straight up and certainly would not include Joel. That is a big NO on this deal.

If it was Outlaw/Sergio/#24/$3 mil cash for #3(Rubio)/Collison...maybe.
 
Basically that would be trading Rudy, Sergio, Outlaw AND Joel for...#3 (Rubio) because you mention dumping #24 (Collison or Watson) somewhere?

I would not trade Rudy for Rubio straight up and certainly would not include Joel. That is a big NO on this deal.

If it was Outlaw/Sergio/#24/$3 mil cash for #3(Rubio)/Collison...maybe.
OMG you can't be serious! I would do that trade in a heartbeat if I was certain Rubio would fall to #3. At that point I would trade the #3 for the #2 with Memphis. Maybe Blake +Cash and the #3 heck throw in Frye and the rights to Freeland in exchange for the #2.
 
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