Rudy asks for a trade...

[RR7]

The Knicks desperately need another shooter (and a 2 guard period) who can space the floor for Amare', Randolph is a backup power forward behind Stoudemire, so his overall impact on the Knick's success (despite his talent) is probably less than what Rudy could provide for them. If need be I think the Blazers could easily add draft rights to guys like Claver, Freeland, etc. to make the offer more attractive.

You could definitely be correct. I might be thinking too much of the value fans of GS/NY put on Randolph, and not their management. Felton/Rudy/Gallo/Amare/Joel is....well, still crap. But NY will love it. Haha.

As for the deal, I'd like it. Collison, and Turiaf are instant inserts into the rotation, with Randolph hopefully stealing time from bth Turiaf AND Camby, and hopefully, Camby mentoring him. Posey could be a decent option behind Batum and Matthews, and if we had an injury, can fill in ok.

 

[Minstrel]

Anyone like this deal?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=28uk9zr
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Love it. Even though I think Bayless for Collison is a lateral move, Rudy for Randolph is a massive win for Portland. Even for fit, I'd be a little surprised if New York too such a talent hit.

 

[Idog1976]

Some of you are overlooking the possibility of Sheed really wanted to stick it to his old team. He could retire before we get a chance to trade him, thus making his contract worthless, and sticking us with a terrible trade when others were on the table.

I thought of that too. needs to be a three-way and a follow up.

 

[Idog1976]

Anthony Randolph would be a coup. I think adding him to our roster would give us a great asset to bring off our bench, or another guy that we could throw at New Orleans. Would it mean that we would have to give up Joel? If not, I think we could still put together a nice deal to try to pry away Collison.

Rudy and Pendergraph for Randolph.

Joel, Bayless, and Cunningham for Collison and Posey.

That gives us a roster of:

Miller/Collison/Johnson
Roy/Matthews/Williams
Batum/Posey/Babbitt
Aldridge/Randolph
Oden/Camby

That's an insane team right there. Good vets, with plenty of experience, but also a good core of young guys too.

My nine man rotation would be Miller, Roy, Batum, Aldridge, Oden, Camby, Collison, Matthews, and Randolph. Camby, Randolph, and Matthews can all play two positions. Collison would be groomed to take over the point from Miller in two years, maybe sooner.

I definitely love it. The defense is strong like bull!

 

[HailBlazers]

PRYZ for Rondo Straight Up!

Seriously though we better get some serious value if we do trade Joel, Randolph does fit the bill

 

[Idog1976]

PRYZ for Rondo Straight Up!

Seriously though we better get some serious value if we do trade Joel, Randolph does fit the bill

Whaaa? Look, unless we know we can get CP3 and Joel's contract is a critical piece, I'm not sure you can find a better deal then what Nik proposed. We get a nice young talent 4 (5 in a pinch) for an expiring and Rudy. Also Turiaf is a nice vet in his own right. I for one would rather have a pile of bigs who rot on the bench then last years nightmare again. Also Randolphy might be a piece that NOH covets for CP3.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Love it. Even though I think Bayless for Collison is a lateral move, Rudy for Randolph is a massive win for Portland. Even for fit, I'd be a little surprised if New York too such a talent hit.

I guess it would all boil down to highly New York values Rudy. if they just believe he had a down year and was badly misused in a slow, half-court offense I could see it happening -- tough to say. I mostly put him in the deal because New York is in the mix and because Discovery69 at clubblazers.com mentioned that Cho is asking for Randolph and that the Knicks are considering it.

EDIT:
If it would make a difference to New York (especially a Euro happy coach like D'Antoni) I'd throw in the rights to Claver, Freeland, Koponen or any other player they wanted if it meant making the deal or not.

 

[blazerboy30]

Am I missing something here? How does this benefit the Blazers at all, or make them better next year? That's the worst fucking trade I've ever seen. Wallace retires, Gaffney is worthless, the 1st round picks aren't in the lottery, and Joel leaves without frontcourt help in return?

Wait...what? We agree on something?

 

[Nikolokolus]

PRYZ for Rondo Straight Up!

Seriously though we better get some serious value if we do trade Joel, Randolph does fit the bill

Maybe I'm slow, did you mean to write "doesn't?" If it isn't a typo then I agree, if it was a typo then you're batshit crazy.

 

[maxiep]

Some of you are overlooking the possibility of Sheed really wanted to stick it to his old team. He could retire before we get a chance to trade him, thus making his contract worthless, and sticking us with a terrible trade when others were on the table.

Nah, his wife is making him move back to town. He's as p-whipped as they come. He'll behave.

 

[HailBlazers]

Maybe I'm slow, did you mean to write "doesn't?

I meant what I wrote. He Does fit the bill. I guess my post had a confusing tone.

J-Pryz is a pretty valuable commodity, unlike a-lot of peeps I think he'll come back to health and I think he could be traded almost straight across for Randolph considering his contract is expiring

 

[Masbee]

Nah, his wife is making him move back to town. He's as p-whipped as they come. He'll behave.

P'Whipped or Dedicated Family Man.

You be the judge. Oh right, you already have judged.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I meant what I wrote. He Does fit the bill. I guess my post had a confusing tone.

J-Pryz is a pretty valuable commodity, unlike a-lot of peeps I think he'll come back to health and I think he could be traded almost straight across for Randolph considering his contract is expiring

Yeah the tone was a bit confusing.

As for Przy being a valuable commodity, he might be a better asset for a cash strapped team looking for an expiring contract than he is as an actual rotation player, in that context I'm not sure the Knicks need him; the only way they'd probably want him is if he's close to being able to contribute (which is pretty fuzzy right now).

 

[HailBlazers]

Fuzzy Yes, but he strikes me as one of the hardest working players around and if anyone can come back from this crazy injury its him

 

[BGrantFan]

P'Whipped or Dedicated Family Man.

You be the judge. Oh right, you already have judged.

I'm going with "we can't even get close to fair value for his house, so we as well move back to Portland since we're paying for it anyhow."

 

[Idog1976]

I'm going with "we can't even get close to fair value for his house, so we as well move back to Portland since we're paying for it anyhow."

Must resist desire to hijack thread for house prices rant!

 

[shamelessblazer]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2dwg5lp

How about this one?

We end up with Turiaf, Collison, and Posey

and we give up Rudy, Bayless, and Pryzbilla

Miller/Collison
Roy/Mathews
Batum/Posey
Aldridge/Turiaf
Oden/Camby

With a few for Cunningham (thinking at the expense of Posey or if there's an injury to the front 4, which there will be). The defense of that second unit would be straight filthy.

 

[Nikolokolus]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2dwg5lp

How about this one?

We end up with Turiaf, Collison, and Posey

and we give up Rudy, Bayless, and Pryzbilla

Miller/Collison
Roy/Mathews
Batum/Posey
Aldridge/Turiaf
Oden/Camby

With a few for Cunningham (thinking at the expense of Posey or if there's an injury to the front 4, which there will be). The defense of that second unit would be straight filthy.

But why would the Knicks trade Azubuike who they just signed to a free agent contract and is already a better shooter than Rudy has proved himself to be? The Knicks would want Rudy to add another shooter to their stable, not to swap one out.

 

[Masbee]

I'm going with "we can't even get close to fair value for his house, so we as well move back to Portland since we're paying for it anyhow."

P'Whipped or Dedicated Family Man or Miser.

You be the judge.

 

[BGrantFan]

{1) P'Whipped or (2)Dedicated Family Man or (3)Miser.

You be the judge.

I think 2 and 3 are the answer, with a dash of 1 which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Plus, I don't consider living in an $8 million home that you can't sell as being a "miser". I think it's practical, given the cirumstances.