Rudy done in the NBA?

[OSUBlazerfan]

Fucking RoyToy

dude, its KP's Fault we got to this with Rudy, he should have traded him last summer, when some of us knew this was going to happen, playing in this system and behind Brandon Roy...

Your fucking BOY, should have traded him

 

[andalusian]

Cho is on radio now. 95.5

What did he say?

 

[RoyToy]

Seriously get off Cho's nuts.

"get off X's nuts" is the worse phrase ever invented. I look down on people who use it.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

If this is true, Rudy can F off. It's amazing how quickly he's fallen from grace with the fans and (likely) the organization.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Maybe we have different ideas of what "falling apart" mean.

What does "fall apart" mean?

I believe the blazers management at the top, especially Larry Miller, a yes-man for Vulcan and Paul Allen are difficult to deal with. The air around the franchise is not one of transparency nor of a culture of winning. If this current path continues the next guy to want to get out will be Greg Oden. Then once he is gone and on another team playing well, the Blazers will fade back into lottery fodder and Paul Allen will decide the time is right to move the franchise or sell it once the fan support has dried up.

It seems the Blazers have been less than stellar recently in negotiating with players and staff.

 

[illmatic99]

"Disappointed in Rudy/Miller. Will not get into a war of words in the media with them."

"Will work in the best interest of the team."

"We will make a trade if we improve the team, or if we can get an asset for later."

"I don't know if it's a surprise, per se, that he's complaining. It's his prerogative to speak."

"If he doesn't show, the CBA calls for a suspension and fine. I'm gonna continue to look for a way to trade him. But I'm not gonna make a trade just to make one. It has to improve the team."

"I'll listen to any offer. But I'm not gonna make a bad deal (sounds a bit shaken up)."

"I've spoken to Miller quite a bit since I've been hired, and know about Rudy's feelings. It's unfortunate that he feels this way, and it's unfortunate that he's going to the media, but I don't feel any more of a sense of urgency than I did last week. I'm going to do what's best for the org. I will not be strongarmed into making a bad deal. And he's not helping his cause now."

Re: Rudy's value: "stats sited... it's not like he's not been given a chance. He's played quite a few minutes. He's been given a chance. I still think he's a good player..."

"I'm hoping to come up with a solution, but I don't know what it is right now. He's not helping his cause by making his feelings public."

 

[RoyToy]

Fucking RoyToy

dude, its KP's Fault we got to this with Rudy, he should have traded him last summer, when some of us knew this was going to happen, playing in this system and behind Brandon Roy...

Your fucking BOY, should have traded him

While you're focusing on the past the rest of us are focusing on the present and future.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

While you're focusing on the past the rest of us are focusing on the present and future.

You're blaming Cho, you are the riduculous one

 

[oldmangrouch]

If all we could have gotten for Rudy was a late first round pick, we didn't really lose much. Those can be easily acquired by making it rain on cheap ass teams during the draft. Also, I can see Allen being spiteful and essentially banning him from the NBA (by not acquiescing to his trade demands) by not trading him to another team, and forcing him to stay in Europe.

>IF< it is true that the team could have gotten a first rounder from Toronto, then Cho made a mistake. Toronto could easily be a lotto team for the next several seasons.

OTOH, if all he turned down was a pick from a probable play-off team, then it wasn't a huge loss.

 

[RoyToy]

You're blaming Cho, you are the riduculous one

How dare me blame the guy responsible for trades!

 

[MickZagger]

There isn't one.The fact that now Rudy and his agent have gone public saying they won't report is just 1 of the things that could mushroom here in Portland. Falling apart is too strong, as well. Potential train wreck, which I said, is closer

Mushroom into what? A bench player who doesn't accept his role wants out to play in Europe. This has a mushrooming effect on the team how?

 

[XXPrimusXX]

If you hadn't noticed, we recently fired our GM who was regarded as one of the TOPS in the league without reason for a suckier version of this GM's assistant (Penn).

On the shit list with a few agents now. Blazers becoming increasingly harder to deal with. Zero leverage in trades.

TOPS in the league? Then why aren't people tearing KP's door down to get to him? Dude is unemployed. Maybe he should have taken the high road and told his weasel of an agent to piss off.

Secondly, a good trade is a good trade, regardless of leverage. You think a team will turn down a trade that improves their team because we're on some shit list? According to most it was KP's arrogance that got us on that shit list in the first place (not my opinion), and now we're defending him? I'm lost.

I feel our organization is in far better shape than most, at least we have our superstar locked up for 5 years. We didn't lose B-Roy to free agency (LeBron, Bosh, Amare, Boozer) or are about to lose him for nothing in two short years (Chris Paul and Carmello Anthony).

 

[Mediocre Man]

"get off X's nuts" is the worse phrase ever invented. I look down on people who use it.

Since you look down, does that make them on your nuts?


I hate that saying as well.

 

[Nikolokolus]

This franchise is falling apart before our very eyes and you choose to ignore it.

That's funny.

 

[MickZagger]

"get off X's nuts" is the worse phrase ever invented. I look down on people who use it.

Truth hurts sometimes.

 

[andalusian]

"Disappointed in Rudy/Miller. Will not get into a war of words in the media with them."

Thanks for the recap.

 

[crandc]

I believe the blazers management at the top, especially Larry Miller, a yes-man for Vulcan and Paul Allen are difficult to deal with. The air around the franchise is not one of transparency nor of a culture of winning. If this current path continues the next guy to want to get out will be Greg Oden. Then once he is gone and on another team playing well, the Blazers will fade back into lottery fodder and Paul Allen will decide the time is right to move the franchise or sell it once the fan support has dried up.

It seems the Blazers have been less than stellar recently in negotiating with players and staff.

The prophet hath spoken! Rudy wants to start ahead of Roy = Oden leaves = Paul Allen sells team

 

[The Sebastian Express]

I just like how Cho is being blamed for this despite it being cited that Rudy requested a trade during Pritchard's tenure here and Pritchard didn't even notify Allen of this request.

Curse you Cho for not resolving this situation immediately! YOU ARE THE NEW DAVID KAHN!

 

[MickZagger]

I believe the blazers management at the top, especially Larry Miller, a yes-man for Vulcan and Paul Allen are difficult to deal with. The air around the franchise is not one of transparency nor of a culture of winning. If this current path continues the next guy to want to get out will be Greg Oden. Then once he is gone and on another team playing well, the Blazers will fade back into lottery fodder and Paul Allen will decide the time is right to move the franchise or sell it once the fan support has dried up.

It seems the Blazers have been less than stellar recently in negotiating with players and staff.

You're playing chicken little. I understand its cute to play devils advocate these days, but lets be real.

Oden doesn't give a shit that Rudy's a prima donna, nor does the rest of his teammates. If Rudy were to stay he'd be a 3rd string SG, I don't blame him for sitting out.

Now back to the regularly scheduled saga of a couple posters being naive in order to rile up everyone else with their nonsense.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Honestly, I'm kind of glad he hasn't yet. Not because I think the roster is fine as-is, but because with him being a fresh GM, his colleagues are likely trying to rob us blind.

I'd be pretty disappointed if Cho's first major act as GM was to let himself be strong armed into making a trade he didn't want.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

TOPS in the league? Then why aren't people tearing KP's door down to get to him? Dude is unemployed. Maybe he should have taken the high road and told his weasel of an agent to piss off.

Secondly, a good trade is a good trade, regardless of leverage. You think a team will turn down a trade that improves their team because we're on some shit list? According to most it was KP's arrogance that got us on that shit list in the first place (not my opinion), and now we're defending him? I'm lost.

I feel our organization is in far better shape than most, at least we have our superstar locked up for 5 years. We didn't lose B-Roy to free agency (LeBron, Bosh, Amare, Boozer) or are about to lose him for nothing in two short years (Chris Paul and Carmello Anthony).

Several years ago, there was a road map for this team and it went horribly off course.

We were to be a dominant team of the future with a trio of Roy-Aldridge and Oden with a bevy of complimentary role players. Cap space cleared 2 years ago was supposed to net a PG of the future. We got Andre Miller.

Rudy Fernandez, emerging star, has not lived up to potential. Injuries decimated the team, but are not the cause for the dysfunction.

This team, as is now, compared to the vision from 2 years ago is a train wreck. There is no faith in management, no faith in the GM and beloved players and GM Pritchard have been alienated and/or let go without explanation.

Roy will stay. But if this path keeps on what it is, we're going to have the same situation with Oden that Rudy is in and then we have no championship hopes whatsoever.

 

[MickZagger]

"Disappointed in Rudy/Miller. Will not get into a war of words in the media with them."

"Will work in the best interest of the team."

"We will make a trade if we improve the team, or if we can get an asset for later."

"I don't know if it's a surprise, per se, that he's complaining. It's his prerogative to speak."

"If he doesn't show, the CBA calls for a suspension and fine. I'm gonna continue to look for a way to trade him. But I'm not gonna make a trade just to make one. It has to improve the team."

"I'll listen to any offer. But I'm not gonna make a bad deal (sounds a bit shaken up)."

"I've spoken to Miller quite a bit since I've been hired, and know about Rudy's feelings. It's unfortunate that he feels this way, and it's unfortunate that he's going to the media, but I don't feel any more of a sense of urgency than I did last week. I'm going to do what's best for the org. I will not be strongarmed into making a bad deal. And he's not helping his cause now."

Re: Rudy's value: "stats sited... it's not like he's not been given a chance. He's played quite a few minutes. He's been given a chance. I still think he's a good player..."

"I'm hoping to come up with a solution, but I don't know what it is right now. He's not helping his cause by making his feelings public."

I'd also like to add that his temperment during the interview sounded like Cho was pissed.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You're playing chicken little. I understand its cute to play devils advocate these days, but lets be real.

Oden doesn't give a shit that Rudy's a prima donna, nor does the rest of his teammates. If Rudy were to stay he'd be a 3rd string SG, I don't blame him for sitting out.

Now back to the regularly scheduled saga of a couple posters being naive in order to rile up everyone else with their nonsense.

First was Penn, then it was Pritch and now its Rudy. Then the assistant coaches let go and the FT coach and whoever else.

There is something fishy in the water here and I believe its more organizational than the guys getting the boot or wanting to jump ship.

 

[RoyToy]

I just like how Cho is being blamed for this despite it being cited that Rudy requested a trade during Pritchard's tenure here and Pritchard didn't even notify Allen of this request.

Curse you Cho for not resolving this situation immediately! YOU ARE THE NEW DAVID KAHN!

"I'm not here to talk about the past"

 

[illmatic99]

I'd also like to add that his temperment during the interview sounded like Cho was pissed.

Yea, he seemed a bit angry, but outwardly, it was all "calm waters..." heh. He was assertive.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

I'd be pretty disappointed if Cho's first major act as GM was to let himself be strong armed into making a trade he didn't want.

Repped

PLEASE READ ROYTOY

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I just like how Cho is being blamed for this despite it being cited that Rudy requested a trade during Pritchard's tenure here and Pritchard didn't even notify Allen of this request.

Curse you Cho for not resolving this situation immediately! YOU ARE THE NEW DAVID KAHN!

According to Quick, Cho turned down first round picks by a couple of teams (as well as player for player deals). It seems to me that since we signed Matthews it pretty much ended Rudy's tenure. To turn down a first round pick for a reserve player is a sin. Cho had held out for too much and therefore has to bear his share of responsibility for the mess. Cho failed to make a decent deal when they were presented.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'd also like to add that his temperment during the interview sounded like Cho was pissed.

Manlet rage.

 

[RoyToy]

According to Quick, Cho turned down first round picks by a couple of teams (as well as player for player deals). It seems to me that since we signed Matthews it pretty much ended Rudy's tenure. To turn down a first round pick for a reserve player is a sin. Cho had held out for too much and therefore has to bear his share of responsibility for the mess. Cho failed to make a decent deal when they were presented.

CHA-CHING

 

[XXPrimusXX]

Several years ago, there was a road map for this team and it went horribly off course.

We were to be a dominant team of the future with a trio of Roy-Aldridge and Oden with a bevy of complimentary role players. Cap space cleared 2 years ago was supposed to net a PG of the future. We got Andre Miller.

Rudy Fernandez, emerging star, has not lived up to potential. Injuries decimated the team, but are not the cause for the dysfunction.

This team, as is now, compared to the vision from 2 years ago is a train wreck. There is no faith in management, no faith in the GM and beloved players and GM Pritchard have been alienated and/or let go without explanation.

Roy will stay. But if this path keeps on what it is, we're going to have the same situation with Oden that Rudy is in and then we have no championship hopes whatsoever.

No faith by whom? You?

Because I have faith. The outlook is good.

Let this team play a healthy season of basketball and if it all falls apart, we can talk about trains wrecking.

And who is to say that Andre Miller can't turn into out PGotF? He almost did on draft day (via the Chris Paul trade).