Rudy done in the NBA?

[The Sebastian Express]

"I'm not here to talk about the past"

Are you implying that our past was a lying drug riddled egomaniac or something?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Several years ago, there was a road map for this team and it went horribly off course.

We were to be a dominant team of the future with a trio of Roy-Aldridge and Oden with a bevy of complimentary role players. Cap space cleared 2 years ago was supposed to net a PG of the future. We got Andre Miller.

Rudy Fernandez, emerging star, has not lived up to potential. Injuries decimated the team, but are not the cause for the dysfunction.

This team, as is now, compared to the vision from 2 years ago is a train wreck. There is no faith in management, no faith in the GM and beloved players and GM Pritchard have been alienated and/or let go without explanation.

Roy will stay. But if this path keeps on what it is, we're going to have the same situation with Oden that Rudy is in and then we have no championship hopes whatsoever.

You must live in some kind of crazy ass dream world where all of your plans come to fruition and everything goes according to script.

 

[Mediocre Man]

According to Quick, Cho turned down first round picks by a couple of teams (as well as player for player deals). It seems to me that since we signed Matthews it pretty much ended Rudy's tenure. To turn down a first round pick for a reserve player is a sin. Cho had held out for too much and therefore has to bear his share of responsibility for the mess. Cho failed to make a decent deal when they were presented.

This would be the only reason I'd be angry at Cho. If we really indeed did have a 1st lined up, then shame on him for not making that deal.....I don't care what year the pick was either. The overvaluing continues

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Several years ago, there was a road map for this team and it went horribly off course.

We were to be a dominant team of the future with a trio of Roy-Aldridge and Oden with a bevy of complimentary role players. Cap space cleared 2 years ago was supposed to net a PG of the future. We got Andre Miller.

Rudy Fernandez, emerging star, has not lived up to potential. Injuries decimated the team, but are not the cause for the dysfunction.

This team, as is now, compared to the vision from 2 years ago is a train wreck. There is no faith in management, no faith in the GM and beloved players and GM Pritchard have been alienated and/or let go without explanation.

Roy will stay. But if this path keeps on what it is, we're going to have the same situation with Oden that Rudy is in and then we have no championship hopes whatsoever.

I think you're way over the top. The only thing that puts us back on track is a healthy Oden.

 

[MrSelfDestruct]

I'd be pretty disappointed if Cho's first major act as GM was to let himself be strong armed into making a trade he didn't want.

That's what I was trying to say, but you said it much more eloquently.

 

[RoyToy]

This would be the only reason I'd be angry at Cho. If we really indeed did have a 1st lined up, then shame on him for not making that deal.....I don't care what year the pick was either. The overvaluing continues

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You must live in some kind of crazy ass dream world where all of your plans come to fruition and everything goes according to plan.

Yes. They do. And if they don't, I start chopping peoples heads off.

 

[MrSelfDestruct]

Several years ago, there was a road map for this team and it went horribly off course.

We were to be a dominant team of the future with a trio of Roy-Aldridge and Oden with a bevy of complimentary role players. Cap space cleared 2 years ago was supposed to net a PG of the future. We got Andre Miller.

Rudy Fernandez, emerging star, has not lived up to potential. Injuries decimated the team, but are not the cause for the dysfunction.

This team, as is now, compared to the vision from 2 years ago is a train wreck. There is no faith in management, no faith in the GM and beloved players and GM Pritchard have been alienated and/or let go without explanation.

Roy will stay. But if this path keeps on what it is, we're going to have the same situation with Oden that Rudy is in and then we have no championship hopes whatsoever.

One other big change over the last two years:

CANCER.

 

[andalusian]

According to Quick

According to Quick, Marc Iavaroni is currently the team's coach.

According to some random dude on Bleach-report "The bleach segment in Guatemala has not had strong innovation over time, leaving space for small local brands to enter the segment with a fairly similar product but at lower prices. Total current value sales of bleach declined by -1% in 2009, to reach GTQ130 million. The down trading tendency during 2009, stopped the fall from being steeper, as many " - http://www.pr-inside.com/bleach-guatemala-market-report-r2049477.htm

Really...

 

[XXPrimusXX]

Is it only now that we're about to get nothing for Rudy that everyone is content with a 1st round pick?

 

[oldmangrouch]

Cho didn't create this situation, he just inherited it. On the flip side, it is now his job to deal with it. To quote an old cartoon show - you knew the job was dangerous when you took it!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Is it only now that we're about to get nothing for Rudy that everyone is content with a 1st round pick?

I'd rather get nothing for him and let him stay in Europe. It'll be like a Brian Shaw situation where he'll screw us later way down the road or something in Miami in the Finals with a dagger 3.

 

[Mediocre Man]

According to Quick, Marc Iavaroni is currently the team's coach.

According to some random dude on Bleach-report "The bleach segment in Guatemala has not had strong innovation over time, leaving space for small local brands to enter the segment with a fairly similar product but at lower prices. Total current value sales of bleach declined by -1% in 2009, to reach GTQ130 million. The down trading tendency during 2009, stopped the fall from being steeper, as many " - http://www.pr-inside.com/bleach-guatemala-market-report-r2049477.htm

Really...

Quick was right enough that Cho went on the radio to respond to this.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Yes. They do. And if they don't, I start chopping peoples heads off.

The only trouble with your "perfect vision" for the team and how it was somehow mangled and mismanaged is that it the seeds for the trouble were planted over a year ago, when the (supposedly) beloved team architect, KP, was still at the controls.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

One other big change over the last two years:

CANCER.

The urgency to win now should have been a higher priority then instead of pissing people off and staying pat.

 

[XXPrimusXX]

I'd rather get nothing for him and let him stay in Europe. It'll be like a Brian Shaw situation where he'll screw us later way down the road or something in Miami in the Finals with a dagger 3.

Trust me when I say I'm not afraid of Rudy Fernandez. You shouldn't be either.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

The only trouble with your "perfect vision" for the team and how it was somehow mangled and mismanaged is that it the seeds for the trouble were planted over a year ago, when the (supposedly) beloved team architect, KP, was still at the controls.

Yeah, well I've stated it all started trading by ZBO for less than zero and this cockamamie Imaginary Cap Space plan. KP still managed some overall good moves despite that though.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Is it only now that we're about to get nothing for Rudy that everyone is content with a 1st round pick?

No, not at all. He's never recovered since being injured by Ariza or having back surgery. He's underperformed in the playoffs and failed to make the best of extended playing opportunities and has a problem with defense. I'd jump on a first round pick for him anytime after last season.

 

[andalusian]

Quick was right enough that Cho went on the radio to respond to this.

What was Quick right about? That he had these offers? He went to the radio because it made sense to tell the other GMs that he will not hold a fire-sale over Rudy.

Quick has enough of a track record to take his "there was a deal for this" or "there was a deal for that" with a grain of salt...

Not sure what deals were there, not sure what Cho wanted or wants for him, but I definitely am not ready to go to war over rumors spread by Quick...

If you start a post to justify your position with "According to Quick" about rumors - don't be surprised if you are not taken seriously.

Quick is not a reliable source of information, unfortunately. He gets it right about as often as anyone off the street would when asked "head or tail".

 

[MrSelfDestruct]

The urgency to win now should have been a higher priority then instead of pissing people off and staying pat.

It is.

That's why Andre Miller was brought in.
That's why Camby was acquired.

How much of this anger has to do with you owning a Rudy jersey?

 

[MickZagger]

This would be the only reason I'd be angry at Cho. If we really indeed did have a 1st lined up, then shame on him for not making that deal.....I don't care what year the pick was either. The overvaluing continues

lol. Like KP never overvalued a Blazer.

 

[RoyToy]

lol. Like KP never overvalued a Blazer.

Cho is the one responsible now. Bring up the past doesn't make Cho look any better.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

What was Quick right about? That he had these offers? He went to the radio because it made sense to tell the other GMs that he will not hold a fire-sale over Rudy.

Quick has enough of a track record to take his "there was a deal for this" or "there was a deal for that" with a grain of salt...

Not sure what deals were there, not sure what Cho wanted or wants for him, but I definitely am not ready to go to war over rumors spread by Quick...

If you start a post to justify your position with "According to Quick" about rumors - don't be surprised if you are not taken seriously.

Quick is not a reliable source of information, unfortunately. He gets it right about as often as anyone off the street would when asked "head or tail".

"Water-Shed Day"

 

[XXPrimusXX]

Yeah, well I've stated it all started trading by ZBO for less than zero and this cockamamie Imaginary Cap Space plan. KP still managed some overall good moves despite that though.

So, who would have started for us at PF if Zach didn't get traded?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

It is.

That's why Andre Miller was brought in.
That's why Camby was acquired.

How much of this anger has to do with you owning a Rudy jersey?

Its not just the Rudy jersey (t-shirt) but I thought he could have been a good roleplayer on this team. oh well.

I think Miller and Camby were fine. both short term solutions though.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

So, who would have started for us at PF if Zach didn't get traded?

ZBO with LMA playing center? then whoever plays better when Oden returns.

 

[MickZagger]

Quick was right enough that Cho went on the radio to respond to this.

Were talking about the trades that Quick reported that Cho turned down. Quick doesn't know what he turned down, or what other teams turned down as much as the next guy.

 

[Mediocre Man]

lol. Like KP never overvalued a Blazer.

That's what I said....."The overvaluing continues"

 

[axs88]

Rudy for Xavier Henry? Pretty please...

 

[MickZagger]

Cho is the one responsible now. Bring up the past doesn't make Cho look any better.

lol, but your angry that we hired Cho for your beloved KP. Its okay buddy, you'll get over it soon enough. Reality's a bitch sometimes.