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Anyone else get the feeling that he's trying to play up his trade value? I imagine Cho told him that he isn't worth a bag of peanuts right now, and if he truly wants out of town he better play worth a damn or he'll be sitting on our bench for the next two seasons.
 
I don't think we need to attach a Machiavellian motive to everything Rudy does. :) Maybe he's just trying to play basketball to the best of his ability. I think his villainy has been overstated. I think he didn't handle the situation very well over the past half year or so, but I don't think he's necessarily actively doing anything and everything to escape the team.
 
Anyone else get the feeling that he's trying to play up his trade value? I imagine Cho told him that he isn't worth a bag of peanuts right now, and if he truly wants out of town he better play worth a damn or he'll be sitting on our bench for the next two seasons.

Not if what he said at media day about not wanting to play in the NBA period is true. That kind of drop his trading value as low as it can go.
 
Rudy simply doesn't give a fuck if Nate pulls him or not, so he is playing a lot looser. Amazing how that happens. It would be fun to see what would happen if the entire team didn't feel they'd get benched for a bad play.
 
Rudy simply doesn't give a fuck if Nate pulls him or not, so he is playing a lot looser. Amazing how that happens. It would be fun to see what would happen if the entire team didn't feel they'd get benched for a bad play.

Yeah! We might win by 30 instead of just 29!
 
Rudy simply doesn't give a fuck if Nate pulls him or not, so he is playing a lot looser. Amazing how that happens. It would be fun to see what would happen if the entire team didn't feel they'd get benched for a bad play.

Yes we understand you don't like Nate. But not everything is about Nate.
 
Supposedly his European agent is going to be on 95.5 the game at 8 this morning to "air some dirty laundry" maybe he'll give us the scoop?
 
Supposedly his European agent is going to be on 95.5 the game at 8 this morning to "air some dirty laundry" maybe he'll give us the scoop?

Sounds like a desperate move on Rudy's part if he does. But what will happen is it will just piss Cho off more. This will be like a Spanish Soap Opera when this guy gets done. Lots of drama and no substance.
 
I have said this before. Don't be surprised if everything with Rudy ends up working out. If Rudy, Bayless and Mathews can play together, all of the other issues go away. Wins can bring happiness.
 
I have said this before. Don't be surprised if everything with Rudy ends up working out. If Rudy, Bayless and Mathews can play together, all of the other issues go away. Wins can bring happiness.

That is still only 15 minutes a game. So I am not hopefull he will be happy.
 
Supposedly the Knicks still want him, and are very excited about their foreign C prospect, any chance we should/could grab Ronny Turiaf from them?

Pryzbilla + Rudy for Turiaf and a future pick?

Not sure that I'd do it personally, I don't know if he's a huge upgrade over Pendergraph, and if everyone's healthy there's not many minutes to go around (with Aldridge, Oden, and Camby), but we know he'd play very hard at least.

I still wouldn't mind trading bayless (just don't think he'll ever learn to pass), keeping Rudy for the season, and developing Armon Johnson in spot minutes.
 
Supposedly the Knicks still want him, and are very excited about their foreign C prospect, any chance we should/could grab Ronny Turiaf from them?

Pryzbilla + Rudy for Turiaf and a future pick?

Not sure that I'd do it personally, I don't know if he's a huge upgrade over Pendergraph, and if everyone's healthy there's not many minutes to go around (with Aldridge, Oden, and Camby), but we know he'd play very hard at least.

I still wouldn't mind trading bayless (just don't think he'll ever learn to pass), keeping Rudy for the season, and developing Armon Johnson in spot minutes.

In this scenario who exactly is the back up point guard?

Johnson isn't even close to ready and I don't think Mathews or Rudy are capable.
 
Yes we understand you don't like Nate. But not everything is about Nate.



Ok. Rudy comes over as a rookie and lights it up. Nate tells his to play more under control and he struggles. Rudy wants a trade and doesn't give a fuck what Nate says and he lights it up. Good to know it's not Nate.
 
Ok. Rudy comes over as a rookie and lights it up. Nate tells his to play more under control and he struggles. Rudy wants a trade and doesn't give a fuck what Nate says and he lights it up. Good to know it's not Nate.

So - Nate's problem is that he requires discipline from his players? Especially, a role-player.

A coach needs to tailor his team's play around the strengths of his stars, and Rudy, unfortunately, is no star.

This was weak...
 
Ok. Rudy comes over as a rookie and lights it up.

This was for a different coach, of course. McMillan wasn't coach of the Blazers when Rudy had a nice rookie season. So that reinforces your theory. All the facts line up.
 
What did his agent say?


Rambled on about Rudy's feelings and avoided tough questions. More of the same.

IMO, many Europeans simply don't understand the American mindset of being the best you can be, pushing yourself, and putting in work
 
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IMO, many Europeans simply don't understand the American mindset of being the best you can be, pushing yourself, and putting in work

This has absolutely nothing to do with Europeans and everything to do with Rudy being a prima-donna and not living up to his claims that he wants to play against the best in the world. Europeans are just as hard at pushing themselves as Americans in sports of any kind...
 
Rambled on about Rudy's feelings and avoided tough questions. More of the same.
IMO, many Europeans simply don't understand the American mindset of being the best you can be, pushing yourself, and putting in work

IMO most Americans don't understand that "American" mindset, which is why all your hi tech jobs are being taken by Indians, Russians and Chinese. But don't worry, you still lead the world in obesity.
 
Aren't all you crackers actually Europeans?!?
 
IMO most Americans don't understand that "American" mindset, which is why all your hi tech jobs are being taken by Indians, Russians and Chinese. But don't worry, you still lead the world in obesity.

No Americans understand that mindset exactly. That is why they are getting all those jobs. Why do a job I can contract out for less elsewhere? As long as the upper managements paycheck isn't being cut, they don't care. That, is america.
 
Ok. Rudy comes over as a rookie and lights it up. Nate tells his to play more under control and he struggles. Rudy wants a trade and doesn't give a fuck what Nate says and he lights it up. Good to know it's not Nate.

Wouldn't be easier if you just had a "I hate Nate thread" and posted your comments in that thread every day. Because your reasoning on this particular subject is just not sound. Seriously you think that Rudy shot poorly last year because Nate told the team to play more under control. And it had nothing to do with him missing a chunk of the season due to a back injury. And now because he doesn't give a shit, he is playing better?

Players do struggle at times. And guess what it is not usually the coaches fault. It's the players. The dude missed wide open shots last year that he normally buries. Whether it was mental or physical I don't know. Maybe it was just the "sophmore slump". But to blame Nate for that..... is ridiculous.
 
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Rambled on about Rudy's feelings and avoided tough questions. More of the same.

IMO, many Europeans simply don't understand the American mindset of being the best you can be, pushing yourself, and putting in work

Dirk says hi.
 
IMO most Americans don't understand that "American" mindset, which is why all your hi tech jobs are being taken by Indians, Russians and Chinese. But don't worry, you still lead the world in obesity.

You crack me up.

You hate the U.S. and have a mancrush on anything European. Even if in basketball, that European player you like absolutely sucks balls.
 
Americans are 7% of humanity but 90% of the media, so they cringe when they hear what the other 93% think.
 
I thought we were less than 7%, but whatever. Point taken. Though most of the time the 93% don't get to hear what the 90% media are saying, so it's about as useful and informed as if I was opining about the effects of Global Warming (I mean, climate change) on Svalbard's coastlines. I mean, are you tuning in to some of the spin Al-jazeera puts on news stories?
 
What did his agent say?

I tried to stay neutral and I think Jaynes had a bias opinion going into it that there wasn't going to be a good outcome for his perspective (or even for most of the casual fans listening that were bound to be swayed by Jaynes post-interview comments).

My thoughts on the interview were that he was pretty straight-forward. He wanted to just lash out at media calling Rudy a baby and asking for a Kleenex because they don't understand what was actually going on in Spain regarding Rudy’s particular situation. IE - It could be his mother is dying back in Spain and he wants to be with her for her last couple years, or maybe he fell madly in love (which we all know sometimes trumps career or school plans) and got her pregnant and wants to do the right thing and raise the child. That said, if it were either of those things, Rudy should have come out from the start and said that, so it wasn’t such a mystery or sound like he’s just wanting to go back to play a weaker style of ball.

His agent almost implied that it was something secret that they couldn’t talk about (like mafia related) because he was saying that the personal issues in Rudy’s life have “escalated” over the last four months to the point where he can no longer even accept a trade to a quick airport hub city and now needs to be back in Spain.

So he did a good job at least explaining that it is completely a personal issue this has been getting worse to the point where he needed to go public with it to try and force the hand of management so he could take care of these personal issues. And then kept going on about personal issues meaning more than contracts (when Jaynes kept trying to compare it to him wanting to break a lease contract for a car – which really is a flawed argument since it is talking about property and not about the human factor) and that people shouldn’t judge him without knowing all the details.
 
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