Rudy to FC Barcelona?

[Nikolokolus]

http://thehoopsmarket.blogspot.com/2010/05/sandro-rosell-candidate-for-president.html

Sandro Rosell could have offered a €7.5 million ($9.3 million), 3-year contract to Rudy Fernández, who is reported to be unhappy in his current team, the Portland Trail Blazers. Rosell, the main candidate to become the next president of Regal Barcelona, would have to wait until Fernández and the Blazers agree to part ways to land the Spanish guard, who played for DKV Joventut before moving to the NBA two years ago. Caja Laboral and Real Madrid are also interested in the 25-year-old player for the next season.

Anybody wanna lay odds? I say 3:1 it happens.

 

[Tince]

http://thehoopsmarket.blogspot.com/2010/05/sandro-rosell-candidate-for-president.html



Anybody wanna lay odds? I say 3:1 it happens.

Why would Portland allow this to happen while he's under contract?

 

[HailBlazers]

Exactly 0%

 

[hasoos]

So let me get this right. Because some Spanish newspaper writes an another article I am supposed to believe all this bullshit? They started writing articles about Rudy coming back there before he was even gone.

Secondly I would point out that the same management team that is running the team now didn't give up on Travis Outlaw for 6 years and still hasn't given up on Martell Webster. Why the fuck would people like that give up on a much more promising talent than either of those two were, after one bad season?

 

[Wheels]

are they really "FC"?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I don't think Rudy is happy in Ptd . . . he has made it pretty clear he is not a big Nate fan.

But my guess is Rudy stays in the NBA, even if it mean another year with the Blazers. I think this because Rudy has a big ego and I don't think he can accept laving the best basketball league in the world this way. Also, Sergio doesn't have nearly the potential as Rudy and for some reason he has decided to continue trying to make it in the NBA. Rudy and Sergio are close, probably discussed this issue many times . . . so maybe both decided they would rather try to make it in the NBA then have the creature comforts at home. I know that is a stretch, but Rudy's whole sitation is a bunch of speculation by writers, thought I would join the party.

 

[hasoos]

I don't think Rudy is happy in Ptd . . . he has made it pretty clear he is not a big Nate fan.

But my guess is Rudy stays in the NBA, even if it mean another year with the Blazers. I think this because Rudy has a big ego and I don't think he can accept laving the best basketball league in the world this way. Also, Sergio doesn't have nearly the potential as Rudy and for some reason he has decided to continue trying to make it in the NBA. Rudy and Sergio are close, probably discussed this issue many times . . . so maybe both decided they would rather try to make it in the NBA then have the creature comforts at home. I know that is a stretch, but Rudy's whole sitation is a bunch of speculation by writers, thought I would join the party.

At the same time, I have seen this story before. Andre Kirilenko was in the same boat a couple of years back. Eventually his attitude turned around and he came back into the fold at Utah. Not much of anything else changed on the team. So the question becomes how much of this is mental on his end as opposed to actually being a problem? IMO the problem is he can't get over that he isn't "The Guy" anymore.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

are they really "FC"?

Yes, its all under the same umbrella wheels

 

[The Professional Fan]

Could Portland trade Rudy to a cash strapped franchise with the understanding that said franchise will allow some Euro team to buy out the contract? No way Portland lets an asset just walk away.

 

[Nikolokolus]

At the same time, I have seen this story before. Andre Kirilenko was in the same boat a couple of years back. Eventually his attitude turned around and he came back into the fold at Utah. Not much of anything else changed on the team. So the question becomes how much of this is mental on his end as opposed to actually being a problem? IMO the problem is he can't get over that he isn't "The Guy" anymore.

Kirilenko was a compensated a helluva lot better than Rudy is, it's easier to swallow a less than ideal role if you're getting rich in the process. In Rudy's case he's left money on the table to play here and it hasn't been all that smooth.

If Rudy really wants out I'm guessing the team will try to trade him, but if there isn't much coming back or if Rudy doesn't want to hang in the NBA I'm guessing the two sides will come to some sort of arrangement.

Remember I said odds of 3:1 of him going back to Europe, I'd lay his odds of being traded at something like 2:1

 

[BlazerWookee]

Yes, its all under the same umbrella wheels

I've never seen umbrella wheels. Did Al Gore invent them, too?

Seriously, I thought "FC" meant "Football Club." So what does it mean?

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

I've never seen umbrella wheels. Did Al Gore invent them, too?

Seriously, I thought "FC" meant "Football Club." So what does it mean?

Yup it means football club, but the soccer team is the overall umbrella for all of their other sports too

 

[Shapecity]

The media coverage of basketball in Spain is equivalent to tabloid magazines in the United States. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[RoyToy]

ROFL at that link

 

[Nikolokolus]

ROFL at that link

ROOOFLES!!!!

Is this better?
http://translate.google.com/transla...es/dasbal/20100518dasdaibal_3/Tes&sl=es&tl=en

Just a month ago, Rudy Fernandez from Portland explained that he missed his family and friends. "The April 4 turned 25 years and was a tough day because I was alone." The next season may not be. An agreement with Sandro Rosell, a candidate for the presidency of Barcelona, for three seasons at a rate of 2.5 million euros each (7.5 total) could be the deciding factor for Rudy dress of Barça next season . One option, Joan Creus, technical director of the section, approve.

Your personal situation and their limited role in the Trail Blazers of the NBA have triggered rumors of a possible return to Europe. Although he has existing contract with Portland (the next campaign would gain little more than a million euros), the club could reach an agreement to pierce. If you continue another year, Oregon's franchise option would renew another season (2011-12), which would guard to collect 1.75 million.

"In my situation, do not rule out anything because I want to play. I do not care where," stated Rudy. The likely departure of Basile and the fact that he would sign Barcelona and before starting his American adventure has again put the issue of his signing on the table.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Yup it means football club, but the soccer team is the overall umbrella for all of their other sports too

I used to work with a lady who was an ice skater for FC Barcelona. They have a hockey team too.

 

[Wheels]

Yes, its all under the same umbrella wheels

interesting. I knew like Boca Juniors did that cause it is "club atletico" but wasnt aware the FC encompassed the Basketball team as well.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

any way we can let him play for 3 years (or longer) and retain his rights if he wants to re-enter the NBA?

 

[Wheels]

I used to work with a lady who was an ice skater for FC Barcelona. They have a hockey team too.

wtf my whole world has been turned upside down since I got back from lunch and read all this lol.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

interesting. I knew like Boca Juniors did that cause it is "club atletico" but wasnt aware the FC encompassed the Basketball team as well.

Dude wheels, you ever gonna make ur soccer picks> lol

 

[Luther]

Pair Rudy's contract with Joels and bring back something worth keeping around. Rudy is not what we thought he was going to be and while that sucks...it's not like we spent a lottery pick on him or traded a big name for him....we bought him. I'm sure there are teams out there that are willing to take a chance on him and give him the minutes he's been wanting...but it's not going to happen on this team...we're too talented and hes underperformed.

 

[Wheels]

Dude wheels, you ever gonna make ur soccer picks> lol

F!! Rocketeer even sent me a PM about that!! Its just been so busy I have only been able to stop by for a few sec at a time.

 

[ebott]

I don't think Rudy is happy in Ptd . . . he has made it pretty clear he is not a big Nate fan.

But my guess is Rudy stays in the NBA, even if it mean another year with the Blazers. I think this because Rudy has a big ego and I don't think he can accept laving the best basketball league in the world this way. Also, Sergio doesn't have nearly the potential as Rudy and for some reason he has decided to continue trying to make it in the NBA.

That's not particularly true. Sergio really didn't have a choice. Just like Rudy doesn't have a choice. They're locked into their rookie deals. There's no way to get out of them. It's not like European deals where since there's so many different leagues they've got buy out clauses built in, in case a team in a bigger league wants to sign you. You're locked in and that's that.

So it's this off-season where we'll see whether or not Sergio's really gonna try to make it in the NBA.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

That's not particularly true. Sergio really didn't have a choice. Just like Rudy doesn't have a choice. They're locked into their rookie deals. There's no way to get out of them. It's not like European deals where since there's so many different leagues they've got buy out clauses built in, in case a team in a bigger league wants to sign you. You're locked in and that's that.

So it's this off-season where we'll see whether or not Sergio's really gonna try to make it in the NBA.

Thanks for clarifying that. I know the Blazers picked up some option on Sergio and thought it was last season he was with the Blazers. Does an NBA player get a say into whether a team can pick up an option for another year or is it if the team decides to pick up the option the player has to play with taht team (and therefore can't go to Europe?)

FWIW-I knew it was a far fetched theory

 

[Nikolokolus]

If Rudy wants to go back to Spain (or wherever) then it makes sense for the team to try and accommodate him as best they can IMO. Rudy is not an integral piece of the championship puzzle, and a malcontent in the locker room (whether he's doing his best to be a good soldier or not) can be more detrimental than whatever marginal benefit he might provide as a semi-useful backup to Roy.

I posted this article not so much because there's interest in Rudy back in Europe, but because it underscores just how lousy a fit he's probably going to be if he remains here. The Blazers should try to get whatever value they can for him in the NBA (via trade) before this eventually devolves into a situation where he makes a trade demand or instead gets to his restricted free agency year (next summer) and says "hasta la vista" ala Josh Childress. Leaveing the Blazers with nothing to show for it but three unhappy, wasted years and three million dollars blown to purchase his draft rights from Phoenix.

 

[Tince]

If Rudy wants to go back to Spain (or wherever) then it makes sense for the team to try and accommodate him as best they can IMO. Rudy is not an integral piece of the championship puzzle, and a malcontent in the locker room (whether he's doing his best to be a good soldier or not) can be more detrimental than whatever marginal benefit he might provide as a semi-useful backup to Roy.

I posted this article not so much because there's interest in Rudy back in Europe, but because it underscores just how lousy a fit he's probably going to be if he remains here. The Blazers should try to get whatever value they can for him in the NBA (via trade) before this eventually devolves into a situation where he makes a trade demand or instead gets to his restricted free agency year (next summer) and says "hasta la vista" ala Josh Childress. Leaveing the Blazers with nothing to show for it but three unhappy, wasted years and three million dollars blown to purchase his draft rights from Phoenix.

I think trading him to another NBA teams makes a lot more sense than letting him go to Spain. The thought of him playing for Spain next year is almost impossible to imagine, but I guess crazier things have happened.

 

[STOMP]

I don't think Rudy is happy in Ptd . . . he has made it pretty clear he is not a big Nate fan.

he has? Do you have a quote or better yet a link you could share? As far as I'm aware it's just been a bunch of Canzano-esk speculation that he wants out of Portland as no quote exists or we'd have read it here 10,000 times. Certainly there are good minutes to be had for him in PDX... but no decent team is just going to give him (or anyone) 25 MPG+ if they're struggling physically and playing poorly.

STOMP

 

[The_Lillard_King]

he has? Do you have a quote or better yet a link you could share? As far as I'm aware it's just been a bunch of Canzano-esk speculation that he wants out of Portland as no quote exists or we'd have read it here 10,000 times. Certainly there are good minutes to be had for him in PDX... but no decent team is just going to give him (or anyone) 25 MPG+ if they're struggling physically and playing poorly.

STOMP

You follow the Blazers closely, do you think Rudy is happy? Because most of the things I observe or read really don't display someone who is happy to be in Portland.

Edit: eggers doesn't think he will be back either . . . but nothing in there about Nate.
Enjoy Rudy Fernandez while you can, Trail Blazer fans, through the rest of the season.

Because the Spanish sensation won’t be in a Portland uniform next season.

Fernandez will do his best to help the Blazers achieve success in the playoffs. Then he’ll be gone – perhaps to play professionally in Europe next season, perhaps to another NBA team via an offseason trade.

I’ve thought all season that Fernandez – a household name in his home country with the talent to be the starter on half of the teams in the NBA – wouldn’t be satisfied much longer as a backup.

Now I’m convinced. The 6-6 shooting guard is mired in a bonafide slump, lonely and looking forward to a return to his native country in the offseason.

“It’s a tough situation for me,” Fernandez confided Monday after the Blazers’ practice session. “I miss my family and my friends. Yesterday was a hard day. My (25th) birthday, and I was by myself.”

http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/story.php?story_id=127054433978358000

Edit #2: more stuff

Portland fans had hoped Rudy Fernandez, who starred for Spain's national team during the 2008 Olympics, would help fill the void left by Roy earlier in the series.

Not only has Fernandez not come close to approaching Roy's 21.5 points per game, he hasn't even matched his own season averages. For the first three games, Fernandez averaged 7.3 points, compared to 8.1 during the regular season, and shot 35.3 percent, down from 37.8.

On Saturday, Fernandez played just eight minutes, making one of three shots for three points. And, in a hint that McMillan may have lost confidence in him, he did not play in the second half.

Edit #3; I have found a lot of stuff about Rudy not being happy from more than just Canzano (another below), but not much about Rudy not liking Nate, more about Rudy thinking Nate doesn't have confidence in him. I don't know if Canzano is putting all these thoughts in my head, but most of the stuff I'm reading on line by multiple writes says that Rudy isn't happy.

Fernandez has been both short and sharp with the media. When a question regarding the playoffs being his chance to show what he can do now that he is replacing Brandon Roy, Fernandez cut off the question.

"I am not Brandon Roy. I am Rudy Fernandez," he said sharply after Wednesday's practice.

What little he does say is confusing.

"I do not need 10 shots or 2 shots. Play free is what I can play, and I think my role is to open the space," he said. "For me, it's not important whether I'm a starter or not a starter. It's the ball. It's shots," Fernandez said.

Fernandez took only two shots in Game 2 -- missing both-- and when told his lack of shots was exactly the point of the questioning, he walked away.

"You took only two shots," Fernandez was told as he walked away. "Why?"

"I don't know," Fernandez said, smirking over his shoulder while throwing his hands in the air. "I don't know."

* * *

“For sure I talked to Spanish media, but sometimes the Spanish media people write what they want,’’ Fernandez said outside the Blazers locker room before the Toronto game. “But for sure, I want to play more. I am comfortable with you, I can talk to you right now, and for sure I want to play more. And for sure, sometimes I feel like the coach doesn’t trust me with my play. But I talk to coach after the All-Star break, and we talked together about the rest of the season. It was a good meeting. For both.’’

* * *

Since the operation, I have not had any problems with my back. Yes it does hurt a bit if I get hit, but overall I feel fine physically. Maybe better than ever,” he explained. “Last year we had a different team and at least I had Sergio (Rodriguez) who understood my game. I have noticed a change this year. I don’t get the ball as much and the system is different. I guess I have to adapt to it. That’s it. Whenever I get on the court, I have to make the most of it. I have good games and bad ones. I must be more regular.”

Asked if the problem lies with head coach Nate McMillan’s style, Fernandez pauses before answering.

“It’s business as usual. He is a coach who makes things very clear and has his philosophy. I don’t always get it. I try to play the way he wants, but I don’t feel the trust that he had in me the first year,” he conceded.

* * *
I would be happy to be on the team if coach (Sergio) Scariolo thinks I should be on it,” Rudy said cautiously.

Here is one that is more of a positive note:

Pritchard said guard Rudy Fernandez did not request a trade during an exit interview. Fernandez did express displeasure with his role on the team last season, though

 

[jlprk]

he has? Do you have a quote or better yet a link you could share?

I read the following as, I will give my loyalty to a team that will give me minutes.

"In my situation, do not rule out anything because I want to play. I do not care where," stated Rudy.

 

[STOMP]

You follow the Blazers closely, do you think Rudy is happy? Because most of the things I observe or read really don't display someone who is happy to be in Portland.

I don't think Rudy is happy about how last year went in Portland, but I don't it has much to do with Portland or Nate or being in the States... I certainly didn't see any quote where he's blaming Nate. Dude struggled with injuries and probably his confidence too. His play suffered which of course this led to a lessor role. This same scenario has happened to countless other players. It's only normal for a talented young athlete to be frustrated when this happens... hopefully he's rational enough about matters to keep things in perspective. Regain his health/game and he'll regain the confidence of the coach and his 25+ MPG. If he's relatively injury free and improves over how he played as a rookie (which would be the norm), then he'll carve out an even bigger role.

I don't know if you've ever suffered a major injury or two but I can assure you it can be extremely frustrating to have your health in limbo. In my case (car accidents... blown out lower back) I had to wait out months of doing absolutely nothing before I could even start physical therapy. I wanted something/someone to blame but all I could do is be patient and believe the doctors that things would eventually come around to the point where I could begin to rebuild my body. Hopefully like me, this frustrating experience for Rudy (and Greg and Batum) will have him focused on doing everything he can to maximize his physical ability for his next opportunity. Facts being what they are, he's under contract in Portland for very little $$$ and they've little reason to just let him leave just because he's frustrated. From the club's perspective, doing so would set a bad precedent for future frustrated Blazers

STOMP