Rumor: Blazers to offer Pekovic "massive" deal?

[Rastapopoulos]

I wonder if Love didn't get one because of injury concerns. Remember when we were so outraged about how long it took to give Brandon Roy his extension? And then they caved? Well, how many games has Love managed to play since he signed his extension?

 

[Draco]

I wonder if Love didn't get one because of injury concerns. Remember when we were so outraged about how long it took to give Brandon Roy his extension? And then they caved? Well, how many games has Love managed to play since he signed his extension?

Hmmm I don't think so. He doesn't have any chronic injuries to one area that I recall. I think it was more Kahn trying to play a game of dare and get him to sign a cheaper deal. Perhaps they had reservations of him being a superstar worthy of a max deal. Makes some sense at the time but now with him possibly hitting UFA in two years it'd have been much better to just lock him up.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I don't understand what Minny was thinking. They were sitting pretty with teams burning up all their cap space and no one making a hard play on Pek. They didn't have to deal with the Blazers maybe playing payback with Nic or a desperate team with cap salary space. And Pek is a restricted free agent. They were in a perfect situation. How could Pek turn down a reasonable contract of 4 yr 40 million dollar contract, heck 45 if need be, when no other team could offer that.

Instead, T-Wolves pull a Blazes/Miles situation and bid against themselves. 12 mil/yr . . . for 5 years? I don't think any other team could even offer 5 yrs. It's like there was no one there negotiating on the Wolves side . . . which I would write off to Kahn, but Kahn is gone. So Saunders comes in and makes that offer? Really what was Minny thinking?

 

[handiman]

I take back anything I said about Hibbert being over-paid.

 

[Draco]

I don't understand what Minny was thinking. They were sitting pretty with teams burning up all their cap space and no one making a hard play on Pek. They didn't have to deal with the Blazers maybe playing payback with Nic or a desperate team with cap salary space. And Pek is a restricted free agent. They were in a perfect situation. How could Pek turn down a reasonable contract of 4 yr 40 million dollar contract, heck 45 if need be, when no other team could offer that.

Instead, T-Wolves pull a Blazes/Miles situation and bid against themselves. 12 mil/yr . . . for 5 years? I don't think any other team could even offer 5 yrs. It's like there was no one there negotiating on the Wolves side . . . which I would write off to Kahn, but Kahn is gone. So Saunders comes in and makes that offer? Really what was Minny thinking?

Yeah, they are idiots. There was no way Pek would turn down 4 yr 40 mil. You see this all the time with bad teams they are scared that the sky is falling so they make desperate moves. I bet the owner was impatient and told Flip to "get a deal done soon".

 

[blue9]

It's like there was no one there negotiating on the Wolves side . . . which I would write off to Kahn, but Kahn is gone. So Saunders comes in and makes that offer? Really what was Minny thinking?

Flip is proving to be just as bad at being a GM as he was at being a coach.

 

[dviss1]

And #1 is the reason why Pekovic is MASSIVELY overpaid.

[video]www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GLEDI8XIcQY[/video]

On another note, how bout that kid from P-Town?

 

[Rhal]

What I find weird is that if someone else offered him what his equivalent salary would be for 4 years 4/48 I would have been fine with that but minnesota offering him pretty much his max value for 5 years I still can't get over it. They bid against themselves and lost.

 

[BrianFromWA]

What I find weird is that if someone else offered him what his equivalent salary would be for 4 years 4/48 I would have been fine with that but minnesota offering him pretty much his max value for 5 years I still can't get over it. They bid against themselves and lost.

I'm not saying I agree with their strategy, but they're probably thinking that in Year 5 they'll be super-happy paying him 12M instead of whatever he'd rate as a UFA coming off of year 4. He gets guaranteed cash, they get guaranteed cost control.

 

[Rhal]

I'm not saying I agree with their strategy, but they're probably thinking that in Year 5 they'll be super-happy paying him 12M instead of whatever he'd rate as a UFA coming off of year 4. He gets guaranteed cash, they get guaranteed cost control.

I'm not talking about the 5 year part, I fully support the fact they gave him a 5 year contract because if your resigning someone as a part of your core you sure as hell want him for 5 years. There were what 2 teams who could have given Pek a 10+ contract at the moment and one of them was Philly who is tanking for all they are worth so they wouldn't give him a contract so that I think leaves pretty much the Wolves. Pek at 12m is overpaying but would he have turned down a 5/48m with incentives to pump it up to 52m contract. I believe his QO was 4.2 so thats a lot of money to leave on the table to play for 1 year and hope to have another great year and then have a shot at a big payday.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I'm not saying I agree with their strategy, but they're probably thinking that in Year 5 they'll be super-happy paying him 12M instead of whatever he'd rate as a UFA coming off of year 4. He gets guaranteed cash, they get guaranteed cost control.

That might be their thinking, but at 28 and not exactly durable (possibility of being labeled injury prone if he has another injury this year) . . . one would think they could have negotiated the fifth year being a team option.

It's like Minny didn't use any of it's leverage and decided to make Pek a very happy camper . . . which also may be the angle they were playing. But with the new CBA, Pek at 10 million for 4 years is much more valuable to a team than a "happy" Pek at 5 yrs for 12 million (plus 8 million in incentives), IMO.

I'm on board with the Neil Olshey Value Train . . . choo choo!

 

[Draco]

I heard something about how Pek wanted these negotiations to drag on so he could have an excuse to avoid playing internationally. Maybe the Twolves and Pek agreed to the framework of the deal in early July when other teams had cap space.

Otherwise if this was just a straight forward negotiation I agree the TWolves got a poor deal and unnecessarily overpaid.

 

[mook]

Every year somebody makes a signing that you just shake your head and know they will regret. This may be that deal.

I just read up on him a little and it's interesting that he was drafted at 25 years old, and picked #31. In his three seasons, two of them he had a PER of 20+, but never played more than 65 games in a season.

It's a risky deal. Next year Minnesota will be committing $27m for just that season to their starting front court. This is a PF/C tandem who have each missed significant portions of the season 60%+ of their NBA careers. Yikes.

 

[Denny Crane]

Every year somebody makes a signing that you just shake your head and know they will regret. This may be that deal.

I just read up on him a little and it's interesting that he was drafted at 25 years old, and picked #31. In his three seasons, two of them he had a PER of 20+, but never played more than 65 games in a season.

It's a risky deal. Next year Minnesota will be committing $27m for just that season to their starting front court. This is a PF/C tandem who have each missed significant portions of the season 60%+ of their NBA careers. Yikes.

What's their alternative?

Don't pay the $27M to the two guys and play who instead?

 

[mook]

What's their alternative?

Don't pay the $27M to the two guys and play who instead?

If it were me I'd probably try my best to trade one of them. You sign Pek on a 4 year deal or if 5 than a cheaper contract. It just seems like it's going to take a cosmic harmonic convergence for both of these guys to be healthy at the same time, and even if they are neither is a great defender so it's not like you are going to be a deep playoff team anyway.