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FWIW....obviously, take it with (less than) a grain of salt considering the format from which it came.

Nonetheless.....

(Foyle4Pres) I heard from a "source" who I wouldn't expect anybody here to think is reliable. Shoot, I don't even know if I believe him. Anyway Portland may be in discussions with Golden St. involving Crawford and Turiaf (for Raef & Frye?). At first I'm thinking heck no!... but the more I think about, the more I think it could help this team. Somebody to take the backcourt scoring load off of Roy plus who is a Seattle guy (buddies with Roy too?)...and Turiaf fits the bill as the tough backup PF. My only concern would be Crawford's defense. If Nate could get the dude to defend it could work...but not sure if Raef's contract is worth that risk.
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Crawford and Roy are really good friends, and Turiaf would be a great back up to Aldridge.

That being said, where the hall are all these guys gonna play? Turiaf would step in and play the back up 4 right away, but Blake, Sergio, Bayless, Roy, Rudy and Crawford? What the fuck?
 
Crawford is a volume shooting low percentage player. Freinds with Roy? Who gives a shit. He sucks.

Turiaf I would take in a second though. He would be a solid backup PF.
 
hasoos said:
Crawford is a volume shooting low percentage player. Freinds with Roy? Who gives a shit. He sucks.

Turiaf I would take in a second though. He would be a solid backup PF.
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I was just pointing it out, that's all.
 
also i think turiaf benefitted a lot from playing with a good team in LA, and has dropped off with GS. i doubt he would really be much of an upgrade over diogu.
 
Xericx said:
PASS.

Turiaf, while a good banger....is not worth that contract. And Crawford is streaky.
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4 years 18 million? That's right in line with what he brings. Pretty reasonable contract.
 
Well there is your vet Pg and your back up PF. I think it is exactly what some of you have been asking for! Turiaf would be perfect. Crawford......well aside from his contract he would be Ok at best. And yes another trade would have to occur.
 
I actually like Crawford. He was one of the few Knicks who actually had talent and character. He doesn't shoot the best percentage, but that might be related to having the green light on a bad team and throwing up bad shots all the time. On our team, with the better looks he would get, I'm guessing he'd shoot a few percentage points better. But then you are playing him at PG, which isn't really his position (although he has played it a bunch). I don't know, it's not the worst thing I could think of.
 
crowTrobot said:
also i think turiaf benefitted a lot from playing with a good team in LA, and has dropped off with GS. i doubt he would really be much of an upgrade over diogu.
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Turiaf is a legimate 6'10
My knock on ike is he is too short. I know he has long arms, but he seems to get a lot of shots blocked.
 
Turiaf is better than Ike. Amazing how Turiaf was able to get good minutes with a Finals team, and Ike hasn't been able to crack the rotation of 3 mediocre to decent teams.
 
RR7 said:
Amazing how Turiaf was able to get good minutes with a Finals team, and Ike hasn't been able to crack the rotation of 3 mediocre to decent teams.
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ike was in the regular rotation when with GS, used about like they are using turiaf now.
 
crowTrobot said:
career FG% is the same.
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What about career playing time? Oh thats right. One guy has been good enough to get on the court with 2 different teams and get playing time (one of them a pretty good team) and one guy has floated through about 5 teams and not cracked the lineup. There is a reason for that.
 
hasoos said:
What about career playing time? Oh thats right. One guy has been good enough to get on the court with 2 different teams and get playing time (one of them a pretty good team) and one guy has floated through about 5 teams and not cracked the lineup. There is a reason for that.
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false. it's 3 teams, ike did "crack the lineup" in GS and his first year in indiana, and up until the last year or so career playing time was about the same.
 
Ike's career high in minutes came his rookie year on a 34-48 GS team. In 3 seasons, he played in 158 games. 69 his rookie year, 50 the next, adn a whopping 30 last year. Turiaf didn't play much his rookie season. pretty sure that was due to heart surgery, but I could be remembering wrong. The next two season, he played in 72 and then 78 games, and averaged 15.1 and then 18.7 minutes per game. Turiaf got those minutes on a team that went to the NBA Finals, as their primary big off the bench, and as a solid contributor. Ike's biggest amount of minutes came for a 34-48 franchise, and his PT has gone down every year since. They might have somewhat similar body sizes, but Turiaf is the better player.
 
RR7 said:
and averaged 15.1 and then 18.7 minutes per game. Turiaf got those minutes on a team that went to the NBA Finals, as their primary big off the bench, and as a solid contributor.
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the lakers barely used him in the playoffs and he contributed almost nothing to their finals run, and they could have kept him for just 4.25 mil a year but chose not to. he's not
that valuable a player, and his actual stats (besides playing time vs. diogu) back that up.

neither turiaf nor diogu is going to be a difference maker for this team. my point is turiaf would be a waste of cap space. we can do better.
 
The tax would have made him an 8.5 a year player, that he is not, which is why they didn't match that sort of offer. Their owner doesn't want to have a huge tax, and they were also looking to extend Bynum. They didn't let him go strictly because they thought he wasn't good.
 
crowTrobot said:
false. it's 3 teams, ike did "crack the lineup" in GS and his first year in indiana, and up until the last year or so career playing time was about the same.
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Then you must have a different idea of what cracking a lineup is. Because when asked about coming here, he was excited because he finally had a chance to crack a lineup. His playing time in GS and Indiana was only when folks got hurt. Then he went to the bench again.

Also are you going to tell me that the talent level on the Lakers is the same as GS or Indi? He was playing on a good team and getting PT. You can't say that about Diogu.
 
hasoos said:
His playing time in GS and Indiana was only when folks got hurt.
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exaggeration, and probably more true of turiaf than diogu anyway (mihm, bynum).

Also are you going to tell me that the talent level on the Lakers is the same as GS or Indi?
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the overall talent level of the team is irrelevant.
 
RR7 said:
The tax would have made him an 8.5 a year player, that he is not
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good point, since it's likely we'll also be over the luxury tax limit well before his contract expires.
 
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