Politics Russia 'hacked' 21 US states in election

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John McAfee, who founder of the McAfee virus software company:

The Joint Analysis Report from the FBI contains an appendix that lists hundreds of IP addresses that were supposedly “used by Russian civilian and military intelligence services.” While some of those IP addresses are from Russia, the majority are from all over the world, which means that the hackers constantly faked their location.

McAfee argues that the report is a “fallacy,” explaining that hackers can fake their location, their language, and any markers that could lead back to them. Any hacker who had the skills to hack into the DNC would also be able to hide their tracks, he said

“If I was the Chinese and I wanted to make it look like the Russians did it, I would use Russian language within the code, I would use Russian techniques of breaking into the organization,” McAfee said, adding that, in the end, “there simply is no way to assign a source for any attack.”

However, McAfee does see a problem with the National Security Agency (NSA) being able to listen in on every conversation and read every text message and email of every American. Rather than focusing on disrupting the bad guys in foreign countries, McAfee thinks that “all of that effort has been placed on a country that is afraid of its own citizens.”

He claims that the only way he has been able to fully block the NSA from infecting his phone with spyware is by using a flip-phone too old to be hacked. He even goes as far as to call the iPhone the “ultimate spy device.”​
 
Since we like Twitter so much:

 
Fascinating. Remember, the FBI had no access to do forensic analysis of the hacked systems.



 
Stop conflating different hacks. This thread is not about the DNC hack, it's about election system hacks. That has been linked according to our intelligence agencies.





And in an interview while driving so I can't reference exactly who was being interviewed but they were a former head of one of the intelligence agencies said this hacking would have taken a coordinated effort of several hundred to thousands of full time computer experts to pull off. That's one of the ways they know it was a massive effort that likely only a couple countries in the world could have pulled off.
 
Stop conflating different hacks. This thread is not about the DNC hack, it's about election system hacks. That has been linked according to our intelligence agencies.





And in an interview while driving so I can't reference exactly who was being interviewed but they were a former head of one of the intelligence agencies said this hacking would have taken a coordinated effort of several hundred to thousands of full time computer experts to pull off. That's one of the ways they know it was a massive effort that likely only a couple countries in the world could have pulled off.

I'm not conflating the different attacks. I am explaining how the various attacks work.

"Former head" (Obama fan)... The source is dubious. Facts are not.

Hacking doesn't take hundreds of thousands of dollars and full time computer experts to pull off.

https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-jailed-masterminding-attacks-sony-microsoftt

Teenage hacker jailed for masterminding attacks on Sony and Microsoft
Adam Mudd jailed for two years for creating attack-for-hire business responsible for more than 1.7m breaches worldwide

A man has been jailed for two years for setting up a computer hacking business that caused chaos worldwide.

Adam Mudd was 16 when he created the Titanium Stresser program, which carried out more than 1.7m attacks on websites including Minecraft, Xbox Live and Microsoft and TeamSpeak, a chat tool for gamers.

He earned the equivalent of more than £386,000 in US dollars and bitcoins from selling the program to cybercriminals.

Mudd pleaded guilty and was sentenced at the Old Bailey. The judge, Michael Topolski QC, noted that Mudd came from a “perfectly respectable and caring family”. He said the effect of Mudd’s crimes had wreaked havoc “from Greenland to New Zealand, from Russia to Chile”.
 
A few weeks ago, I was working on a prototype WWW site and left the staging server (at a hosting company) run overnight. The next day, the database was wiped and there was a message inside: 'pay ransom if you want your data back.'

The Russians did it!

(NOT)
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/13/cops-arrest-teen-for-hack-and-leak-dhs-fbi-data.html

Cops arrest teen for hack and leak of DHS, FBI data

A 16-year-old boy living in England has been arrested in connection with the recent hack of FBI and DHS data, as well as the personal email accounts of CIA director John Brennan and homeland security chief Jeh Johnson.

Fox has confirmed that British authorities have arrested the still- unnamed teen with help from the FBI and that they are looking for possible accomplices.

The alleged hacker had told Motherboard webzine that he had swiped the names, titles and contact information for 20,000 FBI employees and 9,000 Department of Homeland Security employees. He told Motherboard this was possible through a compromised Department of Justice email.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2178132/Story-teen-hacker-CIA-agent-multimillionaire.html

How a teen hacker sentenced to 45-years in prison became a CIA agent... and then a multimillionaire
  • James Kosta came off the rails and divorced his parents at 13
  • At 14, he was convicted of 45 counts of technical burglary and convicted to 45 years in prison
  • Instead he was allowed to join the Navy at 18 as intelligence analyst
  • At 20 he joined the CIA tracking funds of warlords in Africa and Middle East
  • At 24 he sold his first dotcom company for tens of millions of dollars
  • Now 37 his games development firm turns over more than $10m a year
  • He also mentors 'troubled youth' to help unlock their potential
  • 'When you look a little deeper, as people did with me, you're able to get kids focused on their potential'
 
What exactly did they do? How did it change the election?

They changed the voters minds. All those Trump voters would have voted for Hillary, no doubt.
 
What exactly did they do? How did it change the election?
I don't know if it did. That's one of the reasons why the investigation is required. We know the hacks were attempted by a foreign govt., we need to do research to see what successes and failures occurred. Perhaps the election was swayed, perhaps not, but a full understanding can make our election systems more secure in the future.

Any collusion is an important but different issue. This is about protecting our elections and the sanctity of our votes. Your vote and mine.
 
That's one of the reasons why the investigation is required.

Isn't investigation part of why we have the FBI and the CIA? What is the is a special counsel to do that they don't?
 
Isn't investigation part of why we have the FBI and the CIA? What is the is a special counsel to do that they don't?
That's also why we have mechanisms for a special counsel. Especially to make sure there is not even an appearance of impropriety when it comes to such fundamental issues.
 
Isn't investigation part of why we have the FBI and the CIA? What is the is a special counsel to do that they don't?

Be independent. For some reason which no Trump supporter can explain, Trump acts very guilty about this whole subject and has tried to get the investigation stopped.

barfo
 
This is about protecting our elections and the sanctity of our votes. Your vote and mine.

I am pretty happy with our election. Like I say, after 80 years of trying to get us to elect communist, the change in preference is welcome.
 
I am pretty happy with our election. Like I say, after 80 years of trying to get us to elect communist, the change in preference is welcome.

End justifies the means, eh?

barfo
 
not even an appearance of impropriety

What the fuck are you talking about? This appears to be a total impropriety by the left and the deep state. Without basis in the Constitution.

I expect Jay Sekulow and Allan Dershowitz to show you soon. When they do, I expect you to thank them for the lessons learned.
 
I am pretty happy with our election. Like I say, after 80 years of trying to get us to elect communist, the change in preference is welcome.
so you are fine with Russia attempting to hack the election systems of at least 21 states as long as your guy wins? If so, no further discussion needed.
 
in this technological age, it would be incredibly easy to have everyone vote on their phone. would be easy to check your vote after the fact to prevent fraud, and be completely transparent.
One last link.

If you read only one, this be it. salon.com isn't some trump supporting news organization.

http://www.salon.com/2017/03/12/wik...hacking-story-even-murkier-if-thats-possible/

WikiLeaks’ CIA dump makes the Russian hacking story even murkier — if that’s possible
WikiLeaks' new trove suggests the CIA could easily fake a Russian hack. It's no smoking gun, but it's disturbing

The CIA could easily fake anything. LIKE THE MOON LANDING!?
 

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