S&T Options

[RR7]

I don't know if our front office is out there doing anything, really. Other than ordering beverages for a retirement party, perhaps. Was just trying to think of different players still available, and potential sign and trade opportunities we could explore. So far, he has received no attention, so one player I had been thinking of was Kris Humphries.
If NJ isn't interested in him(or orlando), it's more about giving them a small asset to send him here.
babbitt, Armon and Barron(unguaranteed) combined, with the 150% +100,000 could bring us back Humphries at a first year salary of roughly 5.6 million. Don't know the payday he was looking for, but he's been largely ignored by the teams with cap space liek Indiana, it seems. Thoughts?

 

[Blazer4ever]

Wouldn't give up Armon but we definitely need a back-up big. Probably can't get Kris Humphries but hopefuly there's a plan for someone better than Jeff Foote.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I don't know if our front office is out there doing anything, really. Other than ordering beverages for a retirement party, perhaps. Was just trying to think of different players still available, and potential sign and trade opportunities we could explore. So far, he has received no attention, so one player I had been thinking of was Kris Humphries.
If NJ isn't interested in him(or orlando), it's more about giving them a small asset to send him here.
babbitt, Armon and Barron(unguaranteed) combined, with the 150% +100,000 could bring us back Humphries at a first year salary of roughly 5.6 million. Don't know the payday he was looking for, but he's been largely ignored by the teams with cap space liek Indiana, it seems. Thoughts?

I like Kris Humphries, but I'm not sure how trading a bunch of third stringers (who I wonder if they can't play in the league) is meeting any of New Jersey's needs.

 

[RR7]

Barron gets waived, and they add two young pieces for, essentially, nothing, if they have no plans of keeping Humphries. We could also likely send them $ to cover salaries.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I like Kris Humphries, but I'm not sure how trading a bunch of third stringers (who I wonder if they can't play in the league) is meeting any of New Jersey's needs.

Agreed. Babbit and armon wont get you anything. Nj would rather just let hump walk

 

[craigehlo]

In a summer where DeAndre Jordon is getting $10 million a year, there's no way we land Humphries without giving up significant assets. Gerald Wallace for a resigned Kris could work, but I wouldn't do it.

 

[craigehlo]

Wouldn't give up Armon

Really? Armon might be the worst PG the Blazers had since Erick Barkley. I doubt he'll be in the league in a few years.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Wouldn't give up Armon but we definitely need a back-up big. Probably can't get Kris Humphries but hopefuly there's a plan for someone better than Jeff Foote.

LOL wouldn't give up Armon? You wouldn't give up a 3rd string PG for a guy that will give you double digit rebounds a game?

 

[Blazinaway]

In a summer where DeAndre Jordon is getting $10 million a year, there's no way we land Humphries without giving up significant assets. Gerald Wallace for a resigned Kris could work, but I wouldn't do it.

How bout Gerald and Babbit for Hump and Morrow?

 

[jlprk]

This database is up to date on some players but not on others. Weird.

http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2011/

 

[Natebishop3]

How bout Gerald and Babbit for Hump and Morrow?

Are you seriously saying we should trade Gerald Wallace for Kris Humphries?

 

[Blazinaway]

Are you seriously saying we should trade Gerald Wallace for Kris Humphries?

for him and MORROW, yes I am saying that. Wallace may be gone this summer and if we extend Nic are we really gonna pay them both when we have other pressing needs? Hump was a 10/10 guy last yr and i think 26 or 27 and can defend C's. Add in a sharp shooter like Morrow and hell yes I'd do it. You got a better idea?

 

[Natebishop3]

for him and MORROW, yes I am saying that. Wallace may be gone this summer and if we extend Nic are we really gonna pay them both when we have other pressing needs? Hump was a 10/10 guy last yr and i think 26 or 27 and can defend C's. Add in a sharp shooter like Morrow and hell yes I'd do it. You got a better idea?

I highly doubt that Wallace will opt out of the final year of his max contract. There's no way he gets that kind of money in the new CBA.

 

[Blazinaway]

I highly doubt that Wallace will opt out of the final year of his max contract. There's no way he gets that kind of money in the new CBA.

so he has one yr after that? as I said "hell yes" I do that trade for BOTH of them

 

[Natebishop3]

so he has one yr after that? as I said "hell yes" I do that trade for BOTH of them

So you're going to trade one of our only good players for two "okay" players? I'm not opposed to moving Wallace, but we need to be getting something back that's better than Kris Humphries or Anthony Morrow.

 

[Blazinaway]

if you think GWallace can get you more then fine - propose something, but I'm not so sure. I'd prefer Varajeo if Wallace could get us that but I'm not so sure he can.

 

[Natebishop3]

if you think GWallace can get you more then fine - propose something, but I'm not so sure. I'd prefer Varajeo if Wallace could get us that but I'm not so sure he can.

What is your objective at this point? Trying to make the playoffs so we can get bounced in the first round? Filling out the bench? Retooling with young guys? The only way I move Wallace at this point is for lottery picks and young talent.

 

[Blazinaway]

What is your objective at this point? Trying to make the playoffs so we can get bounced in the first round? Filling out the bench? Retooling with young guys? The only way I move Wallace at this point is for lottery picks and young talent.

objective is to satisfy "some" important needs now like a quality backup PF that can defend C's and a sharpshooter off the bench. Nic gets full time at SF, and we still have capspace next summer to try to get or trade for another star level player who is better than G Wallace.

Playoffs this yr are meaningless, I want to look to add pieces for the next 3-5 yrs and try for that impact player this summer either via FA or using capspace for a trade. What's your idea? All I see you doing is criticizing.

 

[Natebishop3]

objective is to satisfy "some" important needs now like a quality backup PF that can defend C's and a sharpshooter off the bench. Nic gets full time at SF, and we still have capspace next summer to try to get or trade for another star level player who is better than G Wallace.

Playoffs this yr are meaningless, I want to look to add pieces for the next 3-5 yrs and try for that impact player this summer either via FA or using capspace for a trade. What's your idea? All I see you doing is criticizing.

Like I said, I would be looking to add lottery picks or young talent. Shooting guard is okay for now, as is small forward and power forward. We need a center and a point guard. I have very little faith in Smith or Johnson.

 

[Blazinaway]

Like I said, I would be looking to add lottery picks or young talent. Shooting guard is okay for now, as is small forward and power forward. We need a center and a point guard. I have very little faith in Smith or Johnson.

you want lotto picks? not me, I'd rather acquire players that fit needs and "try" to use that upcoming capspace in getting a real impact player to go with LMA. IMO Hump and Morrow are nice pieces we will eventually need and Wallace is taking time from Nic at SF. We gotta take some chances, I think we need to take the chance Nic can really improve.

 

[Natebishop3]

you want lotto picks? not me, I'd rather acquire players that fit needs and "try" to use that upcoming capspace in getting a real impact player to go with LMA. IMO Hump and Morrow are nice pieces we will eventually need and Wallace is taking time from Nic at SF. We gotta take some chances, I think we need to take the chance Nic can really improve.

Nic hasn't shown much in the three years that he's been here. If anything, he's shown that he's extremely inconsistent. Could he come over this year and tear shit up? Absolutely, but I'm not ready to bet the farm on Nic Batum. And what's so great about cap space? We had cap space a couple of years ago, who did we end up with? Andre Miller. We couldn't even entice Hedo Turkoglu here, what makes you think we will be able to bring in a primetime free agent? They all seem to want to go to LA, NY, or Miami these days.

 

[Blazinaway]

Nic hasn't shown much in the three years that he's been here. If anything, he's shown that he's extremely inconsistent. Could he come over this year and tear shit up? Absolutely, but I'm not ready to bet the farm on Nic Batum. And what's so great about cap space? We had cap space a couple of years ago, who did we end up with? Andre Miller. We couldn't even entice Hedo Turkoglu here, what makes you think we will be able to bring in a primetime free agent? They all seem to want to go to LA, NY, or Miami these days.

well you don't like my route and I don't like yours, we'll just agree to disagree

 

[Mediocre Man]

you want lotto picks? not me, I'd rather acquire players that fit needs and "try" to use that upcoming capspace in getting a real impact player to go with LMA. IMO Hump and Morrow are nice pieces we will eventually need and Wallace is taking time from Nic at SF. We gotta take some chances, I think we need to take the chance Nic can really improve.

Because "impact" FA's are beating down our door?

 

[Blazer4ever]

Armon Johnson is a good player at least from the several times I've seen him actualy play last year. He's a great defender, an enthusiastic high-energy player, a good slasher and he just keeps going and going on offense. He makes some mistakes but he was a rookie last year. If we trade him I would be very disappointed.

He played in just 7 games according to NBA.com.
Played 13.1 MPG, logged 5.7 PPG, 2.1 Reb, 1.4 Assists, 1.1 TOs and 0.6 Steals. These are not bad numbers. Also, his percentages are quite good. He shot 53.8 % from the field, 40% from 3 and 66.7% from the line.

 

[Blazinaway]

Because "impact" FA's are beating down our door?

because you can also use that capspace to acquire a player in a sign and trade or just a trade and absorb another team's capspace

 

[Mediocre Man]

because you can also use that capspace to acquire a player in a sign and trade or just a trade and absorb another team's capspace

Why can't you have both Lotto picks and cap space? I don't understand? Lotto picks are the key to winning championships. Unless you are an extremely poor run organization. (That doesn't bode well for us)

 

[Blazinaway]

Why can't you have both Lotto picks and cap space? I don't understand? Lotto picks are the key to winning championships. Unless you are an extremely poor run organization. (That doesn't bode well for us)

I've made suggestions, why don't you and Natebishop make a few as to HOW you would get those picks, who you give up and your strategy - I'll I'm seeing is a lot of hot air

 

[magnifier661]

Why can't you have both Lotto picks and cap space? I don't understand? Lotto picks are the key to winning championships. Unless you are an extremely poor run organization. (That doesn't bode well for us)

I think it has more to do with having both, so you can be creative in the draft. Take a page from Seattle (Before OKC); when they used their cap space to aquire picks and absorbing a larger contract. The only way I think Brass should forget cap space is if somehow they can get a marquee player (allstar or superstar). If that can't happen, then save the cap for Summer IMO.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Interesting. In Espn they have Armon playing more games and less efficiently.

 

[RR7]

Why can't you have both Lotto picks and cap space? I don't understand? Lotto picks are the key to winning championships. Unless you are an extremely poor run organization. (That doesn't bode well for us)

I'd love more lotto picks. The people most say we can or could trade off of our roster in a "rebuild", Wallace, Camby, are not likely going to get you a lotto pick in return. Unless we find a team with many bad contracts that are willing to send them for an expiring Camby. Just 1 expiring doesn't help, because of the amnesty.