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My brother-in-law lived in San Diego until he was in his 60s. Couldn't wait to get the hell out. Now lives in Vancouver, Washington near Camas in a beautiful wooded area.
Did HE wear an onion on his belt?

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Neither is wrong/right, but I cant think of a more opposite situation.
The Mrs. HCP and I have spent a week together in mid-town Manhattan and a week together on the north shore of Kauai.
 
Interesting. I know San Anselmo very well - spent a lot of time there. Grew up in Bay Area. Marin is as good as it gets in the Bay Area, in my opinion.

Marin has a lot going for it - but commuting there is hell. My wife used to go into the city every day for work, she would drive to Larkspur and park there, take the boat to the city and walk to her office. Basically 90 minutes each way for something that would have been 20 minutes of drive in anywhere else. Crazy.
 
I was stationed in San Diego for 2 years in the early ‘70’s. It was a very fun place for a kid just out of high school, but as good as the weather truly was, I totally missed the four seasons. Worst Xmas I ever spent was 1974. I just couldn’t get into 75 degrees and palm trees on Xmas Day. Also, the traffic was worse than any I had ever seen other than LA and SF (though PDX has certainly made up for that since then). And I also felt hemmed in on 3 sides, as the ocean was to the west, Mexico to the south (my buddies and I wore out our welcome there pretty fast) and LA to the north. The only direction to really “get away” was east......and that got old after awhile. I’ve always enjoyed SF, especially when my sister in law was living there. But it’s gotten so bad in terms of panhandlers, filth and excrement it’s not worth straying much farther than AT&T Park and/or the Embarcadero. It got so bad the inlaws moved to Vancouver 4 years ago after 40+ years in SF. And San Anselmo is a very cool....and expensive.....place. Didn’t Sean Penn and Robin Wright live right next to the police station? I heard they were very generous to the police in exchange for extra “attention” for their home and children. But then, that could have just been my gossipy sister in law.......
 
The homeless population there is out of control. Los Angeles isn't too far behind. It's also bad in Portland, but not nearly as bad as SF or LA.

I disagree. I believe the homeless population per capita is greater in Portland than either LA or San Francisco. And I was in LA just a few months ago.
 
I disagree. I believe the homeless population per capita is greater in Portland than either LA or San Francisco. And I was in LA just a few months ago.
The weather alone is a big draw for the homeless in Southern Cal.
By the way, Skid Road originated in Seattle. It was where they launched logs into the water. Tid bit of trivia.
 
My God.... That could easily be me....

I'm in Starbucks nearly everyday...
 
I have found no shittier street on the West Coast than East Hastings in Vancouver, BC. MAYBE Skid Row in LA, but honestly that is way out of the way of anything while Hastings is around some stuff.
 
I have found no shittier street on the West Coast than East Hastings in Vancouver, BC. MAYBE Skid Row in LA, but honestly that is way out of the way of anything while Hastings is around some stuff.
The original expression was "skid road". People began mispronouncing it and it morphed into skid row. I use to live in Seattle.
 
'Inside Edition' crew gets robbed while reporting on San Francisco Bay Area crime
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By Nicole Darrah | Fox News
An "Inside Edition" crew who baited "smash and grab" thieves to reported on robberies in California's San Francisco Bay Area were the victims of a true robbery, and had thousands of dollars worth of equipment stolen. (YouTube/Inside Edition)

An "Inside Edition" crew who baited "smash and grab" thieves in California's San Francisco Bay Area were the victims of a true robbery — resulting in the loss of thousands of dollars worth of equipment.

In an effort to report on rampant robberies in the area, "Inside Edition" employees filmed themselves planting GPS trackers inside items that were placed in a car parked in an area well-known for theft.

The trackers were placed inside of a $250 speaker and a purse just before reporter Lisa Guerrero explains "for [their] last trick," they also placed video cameras throughout the car in the event the products get stolen.

Sure enough, two people were soon spotted robbing the vehicle. A man was seen in the segment smashing open the car's back window, pulling out the handbag and throwing it to a woman sitting nearby before removing the speaker.

According to a man whose surveillance footage caught the incident, he said "it all lasted maybe 20 seconds."

The "Inside Edition" crew then tracked down the speaker and confronted the duo as they walked into a train station.

"You've got my speaker right there, you just broke into our car," Guerrero says, telling the man they've "got it on camera."

While the man tries to shy away from the cameraperson, and, at one point even pushing the camera down, the reporter informs him "five million people are going to see [him] steal that." Refusing to give it back, the man says he's going to call his mother — an offer Guerrero encourages.

"Inside Edition" said the man eventually left the speaker, and they later moved on to track the stolen purse, which was found in a garbage can.

While the crew was interviewing the man captured on camera in the initial theft, their actual crew car was broken into via the "smash and grab" method, leaving "thousands of dollars worth of equipment" stolen.

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, more than 31,000 people reported "smash and grab" robberies in the city in 2017 alone.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/1...eporting-on-san-francisco-bay-area-crime.html
 
Bro, if I could choose a place to be homeless, I'd choose Kauai, Cozemel or Santorini.....
 
'Inside Edition' crew gets robbed while reporting on San Francisco Bay Area crime
1531348978931.jpg

By Nicole Darrah | Fox News
An "Inside Edition" crew who baited "smash and grab" thieves to reported on robberies in California's San Francisco Bay Area were the victims of a true robbery, and had thousands of dollars worth of equipment stolen. (YouTube/Inside Edition)

An "Inside Edition" crew who baited "smash and grab" thieves in California's San Francisco Bay Area were the victims of a true robbery — resulting in the loss of thousands of dollars worth of equipment.

In an effort to report on rampant robberies in the area, "Inside Edition" employees filmed themselves planting GPS trackers inside items that were placed in a car parked in an area well-known for theft.

The trackers were placed inside of a $250 speaker and a purse just before reporter Lisa Guerrero explains "for [their] last trick," they also placed video cameras throughout the car in the event the products get stolen.

Sure enough, two people were soon spotted robbing the vehicle. A man was seen in the segment smashing open the car's back window, pulling out the handbag and throwing it to a woman sitting nearby before removing the speaker.

According to a man whose surveillance footage caught the incident, he said "it all lasted maybe 20 seconds."

The "Inside Edition" crew then tracked down the speaker and confronted the duo as they walked into a train station.

"You've got my speaker right there, you just broke into our car," Guerrero says, telling the man they've "got it on camera."

While the man tries to shy away from the cameraperson, and, at one point even pushing the camera down, the reporter informs him "five million people are going to see [him] steal that." Refusing to give it back, the man says he's going to call his mother — an offer Guerrero encourages.

"Inside Edition" said the man eventually left the speaker, and they later moved on to track the stolen purse, which was found in a garbage can.

While the crew was interviewing the man captured on camera in the initial theft, their actual crew car was broken into via the "smash and grab" method, leaving "thousands of dollars worth of equipment" stolen.

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, more than 31,000 people reported "smash and grab" robberies in the city in 2017 alone.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/1...eporting-on-san-francisco-bay-area-crime.html

Ok, that was a pretty funny story.

barfo
 
'Inside Edition' crew gets robbed while reporting on San Francisco Bay Area crime
1531348978931.jpg

By Nicole Darrah | Fox News
An "Inside Edition" crew who baited "smash and grab" thieves to reported on robberies in California's San Francisco Bay Area were the victims of a true robbery, and had thousands of dollars worth of equipment stolen. (YouTube/Inside Edition)

An "Inside Edition" crew who baited "smash and grab" thieves in California's San Francisco Bay Area were the victims of a true robbery — resulting in the loss of thousands of dollars worth of equipment.

In an effort to report on rampant robberies in the area, "Inside Edition" employees filmed themselves planting GPS trackers inside items that were placed in a car parked in an area well-known for theft.

The trackers were placed inside of a $250 speaker and a purse just before reporter Lisa Guerrero explains "for [their] last trick," they also placed video cameras throughout the car in the event the products get stolen.

Sure enough, two people were soon spotted robbing the vehicle. A man was seen in the segment smashing open the car's back window, pulling out the handbag and throwing it to a woman sitting nearby before removing the speaker.

According to a man whose surveillance footage caught the incident, he said "it all lasted maybe 20 seconds."

The "Inside Edition" crew then tracked down the speaker and confronted the duo as they walked into a train station.

"You've got my speaker right there, you just broke into our car," Guerrero says, telling the man they've "got it on camera."

While the man tries to shy away from the cameraperson, and, at one point even pushing the camera down, the reporter informs him "five million people are going to see [him] steal that." Refusing to give it back, the man says he's going to call his mother — an offer Guerrero encourages.

"Inside Edition" said the man eventually left the speaker, and they later moved on to track the stolen purse, which was found in a garbage can.

While the crew was interviewing the man captured on camera in the initial theft, their actual crew car was broken into via the "smash and grab" method, leaving "thousands of dollars worth of equipment" stolen.

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, more than 31,000 people reported "smash and grab" robberies in the city in 2017 alone.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/1...eporting-on-san-francisco-bay-area-crime.html
A big city and someone gets robbed? Unheard of.
 
Two of my relatives from the Philippines got their rental cars smashed and grabbed in SF. Its a shithole with good chowder.
 
In Summer 1990, my girlfriend and I worked in Southern California, and on weekends stayed at RV parks in our Volkswagen Westphalia pop-top camper van. On one trip, we took the Alcatraz tour, street parking someplace like the Embarcadero or Fisherman's Wharf. The island tour was hours long, the stories were about attempted escapes, and tourists rooted for the prisoners of decades earlier.

After the tourist ferry back, we found a hole in the VW's side window. We had nothing of value, just food and sleeping bags, so he took only a couple of cheap things I've forgotten that were on the front seat. We didn't waste time finding a payphone and calling police, didn't even consider it. With a half-taped piece of leaky cardboard instead of a window for a couple more days in the cold Bay Area, it was cold sleeping in unheated RV parks, driving distances to tourist spots, and the long freeway drive home. The irony was that this happened during the Alcatraz tour.
 
Is the alcatraz tour worth it?

I have done it maybe 6 years ago and enjoyed it. A nice way to spend 1/2 a day (including all travel and boat ride etc...). FWIW - I found a visit to the Yuma territorial prison just as interesting. It is not a must have thing to do imho, but definitely a nice thing to do.
 
yeah i guess there is one tour company that actually goes on the island. Planning to go to SF Dec 14-16th to get a Christmas vibe.
 
yeah i guess there is one tour company that actually goes on the island. Planning to go to SF Dec 14-16th to get a Christmas vibe.

Honestly, if you like hiking, Angel Island is just as nice if not nicer - as a way to spend some time on an island in the bay area.
 
ehh, not much into hiking. probably shit weather too, who knows. hoping its not gonna rain (although everything is cancellable as of right now at least so if it looks shitty I'll cancel it a week before)

I heard the Nutcracker there is pretty epic, but its like $180 a ticket. blah
 
As far as major cities/areas along the west coast (cities only close to the Pacific Ocean), in order.

Vancouver
Portland
San Diego
Orange County
LA
San Francisco
Seattle
San Jose

KFalls > all

300 days of sunshine! Lowest cost of living out of all of those!
 
Anyone ever go to that TikiBar at the Fairmont? Thinking of doing that after seeing Bourdain go there.
 
Did the Alcatraz tour in high school. It was awesome. Want to take kids next time I’m down there for a Warriors game
 

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