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[chuckd3534]

If we play the Isles I would expect it to be a long drawn out series whether we add Vermette or not. Some real good hockey. A lot of fun for the fans.

 

[Disturbed]

Isles have a good team but they have Halak in goal. Let's not go crazy here. That guy could get lit up in a series

I have a feeling Vermette will end up in NY for a 2nd rounder and prospect

 

[Ranger71]

That would be cool, hopefully it would turn out like 94 and not every other series they played. Oh yeah 79 too.

 

[chuckd3534]

Exactly Dis. I am not saying we beat the Isles, certainly they can win, but that would be a LONG toss-up series as is right now. If we add the forward depth we need, I think it would give us a little edge in the playoffs. Plus we have Hank and a clear experience edge as well (don't undersell that).

I am also starting to think we get Vermette as well. Maloney and Sather have a great relationship. I think Vermette is the perfect fit for us. We have an extra 2nd to deal. We have some solid mid to decent prospects to deal.

Unless some team blows Maloney away and we are sitting here afterwards saying yeah we couldn't have topped that, I think we have a great chance to add Vermette, and he would fit like a glove IMO.

 

[Ranger71]

Darn Caps beat the Ducks again.

 

[kreidertime]

Because if the Rangers are going to overpay for a role player, than the other team sure as hell better take back Glass. What the heck is the point of giving up a good prospect and a 2nd if you can't dump Glass. It's pointless. Nashville badly overpaid but they made Toronto take Jokinen who was useless. The Knicks made Cleveland take that imbecile J.R. Smith to get Shumpert.

 

[chuckd3534]

I was reading the Leafs wanted Joki because they feel they can flip him for another pick before the DL. Either way he is a UFA after this season, so no harm no foul. Issue with Glass is 2 more years left on his deal. That's the issue there.

Not sure I see the direct connection in saying "What the heck is the point of giving up a good prospect and a 2nd if you can't dump Glass. It's pointless."

I mean sure we should try to dump Glass if someone is dumb enough to take him, but it wouldn't make the deal to add forward depth pointless if we couldn't dump Glass. Frankly I would be shocked if Zona took Glass back if we were able to get Vermette. Why would they want 2 more years of Glass. It is more likely we can include Stemp to balance off some cap since he is a UFA this summer anyway.

 

[kreidertime]

I'm glad some of you are running this team. If you were, the team would have no draft picks over a 5 year span and probably still wouldn't win anything. The reality is that the second era is being built. The no Henrik era. Where Halverson of Shesterkin is the goalie. Where Graves, McDonagh, Skei and Walcott will be the core of the defense. Rangers aren't going to piss that away for role players.

Hopefully Sather can get out of his jackass no trade clauses with some players so he can dump them for picks and prospects down the line. People on this board want to throw away second round picks like they are useless. Dubinsky and Anisimov were 2nd rounders and got the team Nash. Sauer was a second rounder and I honestly think they would have a cup by now if he didn't get hurt. He was that good. Stepan was a second round draft pick. Throwing away those picks for role players who are probably rentals is moronic. Getting a Backlund I can see because he can be the third line center.

 

[chuckd3534]

Let's meet up in 2018 when you want to try and win a cup dump. We can sit with Hank who will be almost retired by then. The only issue I will have is what will we do about 2020?

You do bring up a good point though. All these people in here saying deal all our picks, and deal Miller, Duclair, Buch, Skjei are crazy. It is not stop in here. I have seen a ton of posts saying deal all the picks and all the kids. Bring back rental players, and deal Duclair and Miller for them. I don't get it. Crazy fans in here wanting to deal all the youth. Posts are all over the board. Crazy stuff.

Funny...

 

[cagedlion]

There are some desperate traders on this board. Winnik is not worth
a 2nd round pick. He has been inconsistent, like a thousand NHLers.
These GMs think they are trading premier players.

I can't wait to see which team bites on Kessel. They will pay
dearly.LOL

And to all who want the Rangers to trade their picks and their
young players in the system, you have no clue how to have a
continuous winning hockey team.

 

[chuckd3534]

If you were the GM cage we'd never make a trade and keep the same players year after year.

To me either you suck and get top 3-5 picks to build your team OR you need to be smart with your drafting and make smart moves to add some higher end talent.

We are the latter of course. And we made a smart move with Nash. We need to smartly make moves to go for the cup. What that means is you do NOT deal all your picks. You do NOT deal all your tops prospects. You DO trade a pick here and there to improve. You DO have a couple of kids you say those are my guys, I can deal some of the others.

The funny, and sad really, thing that happens on this board is it turns into oh you want to deal a pick and/or prospects for a win now player...that equals oh my god you want to deal ALL our picks and ALL our good young players. It is sad because it shows you guys don't have the ability to understand things.

We have two 2nd round picks...deal one. Make Miller, Duclair, Buch, Skjei off limits. Don't deal any of those guys period.

So have a plan. Understand we did NOT deal a 1st round pick last year because we got Hayes, who is better than any 1st round pick we would have gotten at 29. Understand these picks you are all so afraid to trade are 25 or worse. Late 2nd round picks, maybe low 50's. So understand that. Don't be so in a box and act as if the options are A) deal every pick and every prospect OR B) don't deal any picks or any prospects no matter what.

Doing EITHER of those things is flat out stupid. We need to be smart. Mark a couple of kids off limits. Mark one of the 2nd round picks off limits. Then go improve the top 9, which clearly needs to be improved if we want to win a cup.

The issue with the mindset some of you guys have is when is it now? When is it our time to actually win a cup (last time I checked that was the goal not just to win some games). When is it time? Picking in the 20's and standing pat will not get you there unless you are simply rock solid on your picks and are really a great talent evaluator. And even still it would take a while to build that up.

So if we are going to be at worst a good team, we are not getting a top 10 pick, so understand that, and SMARTLY deal picks/prospects to actually try and win a cup (the goal?). Otherwise when is it now...ever??

 

[cagedlion]

wow. I know I am not an NHL GM.............and neither are you. Too funny.

 

[chuckd3534]

And thank god for that cage. We would sit tight at # 23 every year...LOL.

Have a plan bro, and the plan isn't oh we have to keep the same players together every single season, which is always your plan.

You have to work to improve your team. You can either suck and get a handful of top 5 picks OR if you don't suck you need to really work to be good and have a shot at the cup. You cannot sit tight year after year unless you suck.

 

[Ranger71]

Nobody's being desperate, but what good is it not improving the team to a SC level and just making the conf finals and then on top of it ending up with the 28th pick and non-impact, 3rd liner which we already have a ton of in the system. Every year the best teams add that one or two players at the DL to get to the top, otherwise you may as well not even make the playoffs and just be horrible until you reach Chicago or Pitt levels of talent. Lundqvist will play another 5-6 years at least so we need to maximize every season by using some B-prospects and a 2nd or two to get that extra player. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

If they get Vermette I think they might try to get Phoenix to throw in Michalek

 

[cagedlion]

There have been so many names bandied about. My mindset
is not conservative; just let's see who they can obtain.