Politics Screw all Government

[hoopsjock]

I rarely ever talk politics but seriously fuck politics and anyone who supports these ass clowns.

Mother fuckers get paid for life with sweet pensions and healthcare while the people they are supposed to serve have to suffer. As if that's not good enough for them they also have to fuck us over with downplaying a viral threat that could cripple the country.

The best candidates these stupid fucking political parties can come up with for president are Joe Biden and Donald Trump?

Wanna make America great again? Force all these fuck faces to live like most of America.

1) Make all of these political positions (senators, congress, president, etc.) federal minimum wage jobs.

2) Retirement benefits are deducted from paychecks.

3) Healthcare has to be paid out of pocket.

4) Illegal to own personal stock or take money from any corporations while in office.

5) Anyone found guilty of taking a bribe or impermissible benefits gets mandatory life in prison.

I guarantee you America would be well on their way to being fixed in about a month if this happened because shit would get done to improve every American's situation so they wouldn't have to live like that. Instead we have people who's first reaction is to literally make money off of a pandemic instead of worrying about how to prevent it.

 

[Chris Craig]

 

[ehizzy3]

I agree with most of your post but they should def earn more than the federal min wage for the stress and work hours they put in

but overall I agree with your message

 

[Chris Craig]

I agree with most of your post but they should def earn more than the federal min wage for the stress and work hours they put in

but overall I agree with your message

He's making a point.

 

[hoopsjock]

I agree with most of your post but they should def earn more than the federal min wage for the stress and work hours they put in

but overall I agree with your message

I get it's drastic but why? Their job is literally supposed to serve the best interest of the American people not to profit.

My whole point is that if they had to live like that they'd fix all these broken things almost immediately so no one would have to.

A politician with a massive paycheck and full benefits practically loses all perspective to do what's right for the majority of the people.

 

[oldfisherman]

Things are going so bad, why don't we let the gov. take full control over the entire health care system. And let them control all of the health care money.

Oh, wait, the gov. is the problem.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

It's time for a revolution.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It's time for a revolution.

Whatever side you and your little ninja knives are on I want to be on the other side.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Whatever side you and your little ninja knives are on I want to be on the other side.

the ninja knife klub!!!

can i join? I have some throwing knives...
And...

I used to play Rygar.... ALOT!!!

 

[yankeesince59]

6) Term Limits

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

I rarely ever talk politics but seriously fuck politics and anyone who supports these ass clowns.

Mother fuckers get paid for life with sweet pensions and healthcare while the people they are supposed to serve have to suffer. As if that's not good enough for them they also have to fuck us over with downplaying a viral threat that could cripple the country.

The best candidates these stupid fucking political parties can come up with for president are Joe Biden and Donald Trump?

Wanna make America great again? Force all these fuck faces to live like most of America.

1) Make all of these political positions (senators, congress, president, etc.) federal minimum wage jobs.

2) Retirement benefits are deducted from paychecks.

3) Healthcare has to be paid out of pocket.

4) Illegal to own personal stock or take money from any corporations while in office.

5) Anyone found guilty of taking a bribe or impermissible benefits gets mandatory life in prison.

I guarantee you America would be well on their way to being fixed in about a month if this happened because shit would get done to improve every American's situation so they wouldn't have to live like that. Instead we have people who's first reaction is to literally make money off of a pandemic instead of worrying about how to prevent it.

Welcome.

We usually have crackers and a assortment of cheeses at our meetings but with social gatherings being no more than 10 people and social distancing, we've had to postpone indefinitely.

One requirement; You must end every post with #fuckpolitics. Lower or upper case is acceptable.

Once again welcome!

#fuckpolitics

 

[Orion Bailey]

@hoopsjock Did you shut the store down? How are you doing? Alisha runs the Kiwanis thrift store in Canby and she is contemplating shutting down, but hasn't yet.

 

[hoopsjock]

@hoopsjock Did you shut the store down? How are you doing? Alisha runs the Kiwanis thrift store in Canby and she is contemplating shutting down, but hasn't yet.

I haven't shut down completely. I reduced hours starting Saturday but sales are down about 80% the last week or so. I have 7 part time employees and all but one wants to continue working. Unfortunately I'm going to have to start cutting everyone's hours pretty drastically. Every day I stress the risks of working during this pandemic and make sure they know I'm totally fine with anyone who doesn't want to come in.

Honestly, I find myself actually hoping for a shelter in place ordinance from the government. At least then there would likely be assistance programs for businesses like mine and your wife's and I wouldn't have to decide myself if I'm doing something wrong by staying open.

It's brutal man, 8 years of working my ass off to build a nice little business and it could all be undone by a virus in a matter of weeks.

 

[Lanny]

I rarely ever talk politics but seriously fuck politics and anyone who supports these ass clowns.

Mother fuckers get paid for life with sweet pensions and healthcare while the people they are supposed to serve have to suffer. As if that's not good enough for them they also have to fuck us over with downplaying a viral threat that could cripple the country.

The best candidates these stupid fucking political parties can come up with for president are Joe Biden and Donald Trump?

Wanna make America great again? Force all these fuck faces to live like most of America.

1) Make all of these political positions (senators, congress, president, etc.) federal minimum wage jobs.

2) Retirement benefits are deducted from paychecks.

3) Healthcare has to be paid out of pocket.

4) Illegal to own personal stock or take money from any corporations while in office.

5) Anyone found guilty of taking a bribe or impermissible benefits gets mandatory life in prison.

I guarantee you America would be well on their way to being fixed in about a month if this happened because shit would get done to improve every American's situation so they wouldn't have to live like that. Instead we have people who's first reaction is to literally make money off of a pandemic instead of worrying about how to prevent it.

Except for no. 4, I have to disagree. Most of those items would guarantee that we only have independently wealthy people running for national office. No. 5 means that any bribe no matter how small would incur the same sentence as the most egregious bribery crime.
I understand and share your frustrations but I think we need to rethink this whole thing.
Healthcare should be as convenient for people as public transportation. The poor and the lower income but not poor by definition people should have health care available at an affordable cost. I propose allowing those under the age of 18 or still in high school free health czre. This would be available to all regardless in family income due to the stigma of only allowing the poor such benefits.
I guess you could make your Congressional pay tied to your income level but then the independently wealthy would have no incentive to vote for a pay raise with the cost of living increase.
I favor allowing the voters to decide if you're earning your paycheck or not.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I haven't shut down completely. I reduced hours starting Saturday but sales are down about 80% the last week or so. I have 7 part time employees and all but one wants to continue working. Unfortunately I'm going to have to start cutting everyone's hours pretty drastically. Every day I stress the risks of working during this pandemic and make sure they know I'm totally fine with anyone who doesn't want to come in.

Honestly, I find myself actually hoping for a shelter in place ordinance from the government. At least then there would likely be assistance programs for businesses like mine and your wife's and I wouldn't have to decide myself if I'm doing something wrong by staying open.

It's brutal man, 8 years of working my ass off to build a nice little business and it could all be undone by a virus in a matter of weeks.

I feel for you bro, being a business owner. Alisha is just a manager, though she still has the power to shut iot down or not. She is in the same boat with sales and trying to keep employees on the books but not having sales to account for that overhead now.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

In Oregon you can get unemployment benefits for REDUCED hours at work.

 

[Orion Bailey]

In Oregon you can get unemployment benefits for REDUCED hours at work.

Have you heard about how the filing is going though? I know one person who has been trying to file for two days now with no luck.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Have you heard about how the filing is going though? I know one person who has been trying to file for two days now with no luck.

I heard someone say to go in person to a Work Source location but that seems risky and I would call first.

Personally I would set an alarm for 3am and try to file then online.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I heard someone say to go in person to a Work Source location but that seems risky and I would call first.

Personally I would set an alarm for 3am and try to file then online.

2 AM. Or you might be fighting with the East Coasters in the morning.


Yes ,I know its a state by state thing.....

 

[stampedehero]

I rarely ever talk politics but seriously fuck politics and anyone who supports these ass clowns.

Mother fuckers get paid for life with sweet pensions and healthcare while the people they are supposed to serve have to suffer. As if that's not good enough for them they also have to fuck us over with downplaying a viral threat that could cripple the country.

The best candidates these stupid fucking political parties can come up with for president are Joe Biden and Donald Trump?

Wanna make America great again? Force all these fuck faces to live like most of America.

1) Make all of these political positions (senators, congress, president, etc.) federal minimum wage jobs.

2) Retirement benefits are deducted from paychecks.

3) Healthcare has to be paid out of pocket.

4) Illegal to own personal stock or take money from any corporations while in office.

5) Anyone found guilty of taking a bribe or impermissible benefits gets mandatory life in prison.

I guarantee you America would be well on their way to being fixed in about a month if this happened because shit would get done to improve every American's situation so they wouldn't have to live like that. Instead we have people who's first reaction is to literally make money off of a pandemic instead of worrying about how to prevent it.

<Hard work needed. Number 1,2 and adjusted #5 is as I see it.

 

[yankeesince59]

I haven't shut down completely. I reduced hours starting Saturday but sales are down about 80% the last week or so. I have 7 part time employees and all but one wants to continue working. Unfortunately I'm going to have to start cutting everyone's hours pretty drastically. Every day I stress the risks of working during this pandemic and make sure they know I'm totally fine with anyone who doesn't want to come in.

Honestly, I find myself actually hoping for a shelter in place ordinance from the government. At least then there would likely be assistance programs for businesses like mine and your wife's and I wouldn't have to decide myself if I'm doing something wrong by staying open.

It's brutal man, 8 years of working my ass off to build a nice little business and it could all be undone by a virus in a matter of weeks.

This is why I said that the stimulus deal is "half baked". And yeah I took some heat about it.

There will sure be a lot of people who either don't really need the money because they are still employed or they are already on government cheese. As i said earlier a good portion of this money should instead go to help "small businesses" because they generally have less cash flow and will be hurt the most by the effects of this virus situation. Unfortunately there will be a lot of small businesses who will not reopen

@hoopsjock ....I wish the best of luck to you and your employees.

 

[Shaboid]

Not huge for a company as rich as Wal-mart, but still something.

https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-to-pay-employee-bonuses-and-hire-150000-workers-2020-3

 

[yankeesince59]

Not huge for a company as rich as Wal-mart, but still something.

https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-to-pay-employee-bonuses-and-hire-150000-workers-2020-3

Yeah, at least someone is hiring...I'm guessing Amazon is doing something similar.

 

[Lanny]

I feel for you bro, being a business owner. Alisha is just a manager, though she still has the power to shut iot down or not. She is in the same boat with sales and trying to keep employees on the books but not having sales to account for that overhead now.

This sucks big time.
I've seen the faces of happy and very good workers when they got their pink slips. Absolutely heart breaking.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Yeah, at least someone is hiring...I'm guessing Amazon is doing something similar.

amazon warehouses are going crazy hiring right now. I looked though, their wages suck...

 

[Shaboid]

amazon warehouses are going crazy hiring right now. I looked though, their wages suck...

I wouldn't work for Amazon or Walmart. I'll eat my words in a couple years if we are in soup lines though.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I wouldn't work for Amazon or Walmart. I'll eat my words in a couple years if we are in soup lines though.

Amazon Engineering pays so well... It's always tempting, my Brother in Laws are both SW engineers at Amazon and their jobs sound crappy, like just not interesting at all, but the paychecks sound good...

 

[calvin natt]

I get it's drastic but why? Their job is literally supposed to serve the best interest of the American people not to profit.

My whole point is that if they had to live like that they'd fix all these broken things almost immediately so no one would have to.

A politician with a massive paycheck and full benefits practically loses all perspective to do what's right for the majority of the people.

you want minimum wage level workers running the country? No offense to anyone here who makes minimum wage but I do not want people making $15/hr making decisions like that. I get it in theory but we won’t attract the best and brightest paying that.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

you want minimum wage level workers running the country? No offense to anyone here who makes minimum wage but I do not want people making $15/hr making decisions like that. I get it in theory but we won’t attract the best and brightest paying that.

I think his proposals were kind of not good, but I didn't protest much because I think his point is more or less if they had to spend a day in a normal person's life they'd change their tune's real quick/

 

[oldfisherman]

I rarely ever talk politics but seriously fuck politics and anyone who supports these ass clowns.

Mother fuckers get paid for life with sweet pensions and healthcare while the people they are supposed to serve have to suffer. As if that's not good enough for them they also have to fuck us over with downplaying a viral threat that could cripple the country.

The best candidates these stupid fucking political parties can come up with for president are Joe Biden and Donald Trump?

Wanna make America great again? Force all these fuck faces to live like most of America.

1) Make all of these political positions (senators, congress, president, etc.) federal minimum wage jobs.

2) Retirement benefits are deducted from paychecks.

3) Healthcare has to be paid out of pocket.

4) Illegal to own personal stock or take money from any corporations while in office.

5) Anyone found guilty of taking a bribe or impermissible benefits gets mandatory life in prison.

I guarantee you America would be well on their way to being fixed in about a month if this happened because shit would get done to improve every American's situation so they wouldn't have to live like that. Instead we have people who's first reaction is to literally make money off of a pandemic instead of worrying about how to prevent it.

No offense Hoopsjock. But the only people that would be able to meet all 5 of your requirements, and still be able to afford to work in the top political jobs, would be.....
Billionairs.