Sean Williams is furious, PULLS OFF his locker from the wall

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He tore off his nameplate, and the piece of wood it was on. He didn't pull the entire locker off the wall!
 
If the Nets ever want to dump him, do want in Boston.
 
I don't know what to say can you blame Sean or can you blame this team?

Look at the rookies the Nets pick up

Marcus Williams he is on his way out of the league. He is so bad that he can't find minutes on a Donnie Nelson team????

Zoran where is he playing again?

Wright won't even go there

Krstic was a good player but he thought he was better than what he really is. A big man who mainly shoots from the outside and can't rebound and gets bullied by players half his size. I knew he wasn't long for this league.

now Sean Williams.

Josh Boone seems to be the only player who is experiencing some type of success.

Usually on a team that is going through rebuilding you would give the young players game playing time but I guess that's not the case here
 
I recently joined these forums, so no..I don't think so. Why do you ask?

Because solid defense and blocking out with no rebounds and no points from Collins drew massive amounts of criticism.

Not that Williams is anywhere near the positional defender that Collins was, but your description of what you want out of Williams fit Collins to a tee.
 
I don't know what to say can you blame Sean or can you blame this team?

Look at the rookies the Nets pick up

Marcus Williams he is on his way out of the league. He is so bad that he can't find minutes on a Donnie Nelson team????

Zoran where is he playing again?

Wright won't even go there

Krstic was a good player but he thought he was better than what he really is. A big man who mainly shoots from the outside and can't rebound and gets bullied by players half his size. I knew he wasn't long for this league.

now Sean Williams.

Josh Boone seems to be the only player who is experiencing some type of success.

Usually on a team that is going through rebuilding you would give the young players game playing time but I guess that's not the case here

(1) How many of these players were lottery picks?
(2) What is the success rate of non-lottery big men? (hint: take a guess, and divide by at least two)
(3) It's unclear whether you are complaining that the youngsters weren't given a chance, or that they just sucked. Clearly, Wright and Zoran were given opportunities.
(4) To call Krstic a bust ignores his success. He was averaging around 16 and 8 when he got hurt! For a still-young 7-footer, those numbers were pretty stunning.
 
Because solid defense and blocking out with no rebounds and no points from Collins drew massive amounts of criticism.

Not that Williams is anywhere near the positional defender that Collins was, but your description of what you want out of Williams fit Collins to a tee.
To a "tee?" No, it's a totally different scenario. He was nowhere worth the money he was getting. It also takes a lot more than boxing out and being a good "positional" defender, to be a starter on a team that wants to win a title. Collin's improvement since his rookie year, is near nonexistent. His least season, it wasn't just the fans, the organization got fed up because he actually got worse.

I really don't think you understood my reasons for wanting Sean at the 4, if you're trying to compare him with Collins.
 
SWAT is a talented big who can help us out, but he doesn't deserve playing time right now. If he practices harder each day and works after hours, coach Frank will see that he wants to be out there helping us win. SWAT just needs to get his head 100% into Nets basketball, because he knows more than anyone else that Hassel and Swift aren't on his level of talent. He'll get his chance and I'm sure he will help us out this year...it's all about maturing.
 
Let me just first say to the poster above me DAMN I love that Avatar and when Jacobs knocked the stuffing out of Landry I crushed my soda can while cheering for that. :cheers:

As for Sean I love Sean, he is type of player who has immense talent, unfortunately he's stuck w/ talentless scratch that IQ less poor excuse of a coach who continues to get away w/ bad lineups, bad game strategy, bad matchups and bad substitutions. When this joke leaves NJ our future can begin. Remember before the season even begun I hinted Brook Lopez should start it took till how many games for Boone to finally show he's not a starter ? it took how long for Frank to realize it's about the future w/ this team ? he still doesn't know that Simmons does not belong out there in crunch time, still allows guys like Hassel to get the ball over legit offensive threats, nothing going to the rim, no motion other than iso roll outs for 3's when this guy leaves we can breathe some sigh of relief until then we are stuck blaming players who regress under his watch and lose PT to be made an example of.

I for one don't want to deal Sean I'd deal Boone before him but this organization continues to show too much support for players/a coach that does not merit it.
 
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To a "tee?" No, it's a totally different scenario. He was nowhere worth the money he was getting. It also takes a lot more than boxing out and being a good "positional" defender, to be a starter on a team that wants to win a title. Collin's improvement since his rookie year, is near nonexistent. His least season, it wasn't just the fans, the organization got fed up because he actually got worse.

I really don't think you understood my reasons for wanting Sean at the 4, if you're trying to compare him with Collins.
You said this:
ViNNNsanity said:
He's not the brightest on man to man D, but he's still athletic enough to still challenge a jumper/dunk attempt when he recovers. On team/help D he could be one of the best in the league. I don't care if he avg 0 rebounds/or 0 pts a gamer. If he can alter shots, and have guys team rebound or a guy like Lopez/Boone with him to grab a board...anything else would be a bonus.
And then I just wanted to know if you were one of the poeple unhappy with Collins because if you don't care if he averages 0/0 as long as he plays solid defense and boxes out then what is the difference between that kind of production and what Collins did? Other than that Collins was a smarter, stronger and better defender and better at boxing out.

I get that Sean has more upside, but that post wasn't about upside, but rather what he can bring to the table now and how you were content with just those skills and "anything else would be a bonus".
 
(1) How many of these players were lottery picks?
(2) What is the success rate of non-lottery big men? (hint: take a guess, and divide by at least two)
(3) It's unclear whether you are complaining that the youngsters weren't given a chance, or that they just sucked. Clearly, Wright and Zoran were given opportunities.
(4) To call Krstic a bust ignores his success. He was averaging around 16 and 8 when he got hurt! For a still-young 7-footer, those numbers were pretty stunning.

Neither complaining or saying their sucked I just mention it so someone else can come to that conclusion.

I didn't call Krstic a bust he was a good player but nothing special. He even said himself in order for him to successful in this league he is going to have to improve on his defense rebounding and post play.

Notice that he is not playing in the NBA anymore. Marcus Williams is headed on the same road. Yi will be there too if he keeps chucking up these threes.

Krstic is a good player to come off the bench but your in your starting line up hell no. I've been saying that for years and the final results proves the point. His success was good but it's not enough to keep him in the nba. Over Seas yea he will be a force but in the NBA players half his size were punishing him.


Leon Powe 49 draft pick, Paul Milsap 47, Al Thornton 14, Carl Landry 31, Jason Maxell 26, Ronny Turaif 37, Al Jefferson 15, David West 18, Kendrick Perkins 26, Carlos Boozer 34,

I could have went on but I decided to stop at 2002 class. Now Those players weren't high picks and were able to help their teams. I only listed pf and c.
 

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