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illmatic99 said:
So some historical context....

In the month of October last year, we were 3-3.

ORTG: 110 (6th)
DRTG: 106.3 (16th)

The defense fell to 29th in November when teams started figuring us out. Hopefully we have some counters this year and our defense now is more sustainable.
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I actually like a lot of what we saw with schemes on defense at the start of last year. Part of the reason I was optimistic of Chauncey regardless of last season's results.

The teams offense became a real problem, Dame injuries, the 3 guard lineup. Season just started to fall apart. I'm not especially concerned with the same happening again. Obviously its very early in the season and a lot will change.

Our bench has been huge this season on both ends too; if they can be an asset instead of so many years as a liability that can make a big difference.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Seeing Grant get easy buckets at the rim while AD and LeBron were defending was a very welcome change. DameCJ teams had a lot of good centers with Plumlee, Ed Davis, Kanter, now Nurk. But we've had so many trash starting forwards that couldn't do anything when defense overplayed our guards. Harkless and Aminu really should be middle of the bench guys; instead of our starters for a half decade. Zach Collins and Meyers were projects that couldn't move on offense. Melo was ISO ball, too old to exploit drives, really better as a backup scoring option with defensive bench players.

If Grant and other forwards can continue to punish over extended defense it could start to make our offense extremely hard to defend.
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I agree. Many were calling for an upgrade at the forward position for 5+ years. Still, I don't think many realized how bad our forwards were during the post-Aldridge stretch and what limitations it put on the team and the offense they could run. Grant/Hart are a welcomed addition.
 
OneSport3 said:


The Josh Hart effect. Keep pushing the ball Josh.
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That 97 ORTG on half court sets is shocking. That team's offense needs a big upgrade and it all starts with off the ball movement. There is just not enough of it in the current scheme. Honestly, this is the biggest worry going forward. Good offensive rebounding teams (See Miami) are going to kill the Blazers unless the half court offense improves radically.
 
andalusian said:
That 97 ORTG on half court sets is shocking. That team's offense needs a big upgrade and it all starts with off the ball movement. There is just not enough of it in the current scheme. Honestly, this is the biggest worry going forward. Good offensive rebounding teams (See Miami) are going to kill the Blazers unless the half court offense improves radically.
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I'm confused. What do opponents ORs have to do with OUR offense?
 
KSF-ERIC said:
I'm confused. What do opponents ORs have to do with OUR offense?
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Blazers are much more efficient in transition than in half court. Opponents getting more offensive rebounds means the Blazers get fewer defensive rebounds, resulting in fewer transition opportunities. Thus, more of the less efficient halfcourt sets, and less efficient offense overall.
 
mook said:
I wasn't aware of this. What was his rationale?

We're undersized most nights. We aren't going to be a team that pounds people in the middle (unless it's in transition). So that would mean trading in threes for midrange twos in the half court offense.

Phoenix had the best record last year while being 26th in 3PAs, so you can definitely win with midrange shots if your team is built for it.

It feels like we're getting up and down more this year, but funnily enough we're 18th in pace this year, about the same as two years ago.
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How is Pace measured?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
My guess would be that attacking the rim with perimeter players--if done well--results in an increase in free throws, which are significantly more efficient than 3s.
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It's probably also more repeatable/reliable game to game.
 
After Game 6:

Source: NBA.com Advanced Stats
ORTG: 114.2 (11th)
DRTG: 109.6 (11th)
NETRTG: +4.6 (7th)

Source: ESPN Hollinger Team Stats
OFF EFF: 113.8 (6th)
DEF EFF: 107.4 (12th)

Source: cleaningtheglass.com
Offense: 115.7 (11th) Pts Scored/100 Possessions
Defense: 111.8 (14th) Pts Allowed/100 Possessions
 
PER is notoriously misleading, and more so with a small sample size. Still, it's interesting to see:
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15.0 is supposed to be an average starting NBA player. To see 11 guys on our roster at 13.0 or higher is very encouraging.

It kind of follows the eye test. When our starters sit, it doesn't feel like there's a big drop off in scoring or rebounding (metrics PER measures reasonably well).

Also interesting to see how far down the list Ant is. If there's one similarity he seems to have with CJ, it's that if he's not scoring efficiently he's not going to give you a jaw-dropping PER. He just doesn't do a lot of other box score things.

Anyway, I entered this season not sold at all on Billups. The way he's got these disparate parts playing as a team is extremely encouraging though.

Since I'm posting stats, I thought it'd be nice to have a quick scan of Sharpe's game log:
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4 of his first 6 games are in double digit scoring. That 8 rebound night in our loss kind of snuck by me. His minutes are trending upward. He's a + player in every win.

And of course, the Rookie of the Year contest. It often comes down to PPG, so I sorted by that:

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He's getting the fewest minutes of anyone in the 7. He may not win, given the way Banchero and Mathurin are going. At least on pure stats. Doesn't track highlight dunks though. :)
 

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As of 11/09:

OffRtg: 111.1 (16th)
DefRtg: 109.4 (t-7th)

The offense has dropped a little bit. Middle of the pack average. I think this has to do with our turnovers. We are dead last in the league in TOV% at 17.5. Once we clean that up, the offensive numbers should pick up. The defensive numbers should pick up as well if we clean up the turnovers. A lot of our turnovers are live ball turnovers that result in easy points for the opponent. Miami had 24 points off 19 turnovers and the Hornets had 27 points off 18 turnovers.

A surprising stat: we are 28th in pace. Even though it seems like we've been playing faster and pushing the ball more, that's not the case.
 
OneSport3 said:
As of 11/09:

OffRtg: 111.1 (16th)
DefRtg: 109.4 (t-7th)

The offense has dropped a little bit. Middle of the pack average. I think this has to do with our turnovers.
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I think it has a lot to do with that third game against Phoenix when we didn't have a single shooter and we clanked everything.
 
illmatic99 said:
Defense climbing to 6th. Is this gonna get even better with GPII?

even the most staunch pessimist has to be encouraged
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I’m excited to see GPII with Dame + Sharpe. Defensively, GPII should be able to cover for any rookie moments from Sharpe or any lapses from Dame. Offensively though, GPII and Sharpe are both threats to cut and are lob targets. Plug in Grant who’s a threat to shoot and Either Nurk when you want to go big or Watford when you want to go small, and you have a potentially scary lineup.
 
OneSport3 said:
As of 11/09:
A surprising stat: we are 28th in pace. Even though it seems like we've been playing faster and pushing the ball more, that's not the case.
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That is interesting. But if you look at our frequency of scoring in transition, we're tied for 12th: https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/transition?SeasonYear=2022-23&dir=D&sort=POSS_PCT

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So I suppose that means we like to run out in transition pretty well, but when we don't we use up a lot of the shot clock hunting the best shot.

Also, I believe Pace is a two-way street. If the other team takes a lot of time trying to score against Portland, it will drive our pace down. Because Portland gets back in transition really well, it doesn't tend to get victimized by transition scoring, slowing down the game.
 
theprunetang said:
Still important out there for matchups and situations, but not the pivotal force that they used to be. And that is ok. But yeah, giving up too much for a center is not a great idea in today's NBA. You think the Wolves GM knows that now?
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What matchups, Denver and Philly?

So centers are not important for playing against 94% of the teams in the NBA.
 
OneSport3 said:


In Chauncey’s introductory press conference, he said that he wanted the team to shoot less 3’s. Well, here we are, 2nd to last in the league in 3PA per 100 possessions.
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And they are usually good looks
 
Blazers current defensive rating is 109.4 which is 5th in the NBA.
103.6 Bucks
107.3 Suns
107.5 Cavs
108.3 Clippers

Milwaukee is off the charts good. Blazers aren't terrible far from Suns at #2. On the other end Hawks are 10th at 110.2 so Blazers could easily drop. Other defensive stats;
3pt % of 35.6% which is 16th
2pt % of 50.7% which is 6th
FTA of 21.6 is 5th
Blazers Pace is 96.6 which is 3rd slowest
Defensive rebounding is 75.7% which is ranked 17th.

Through 12 games this is the most promising Blazers defensive team than we've seen in many years. The variation of schemes, switching to zone then back to man then trapping has worked great and a huge departure from the Stotts predictability. Also the depth is very promising, it seems like our bench increases leads more than loses them as had been the concern the last decade. Plus getting some huge wins on the road with multiple starters sitting out. Defensive rebounding ranked in the middle is actually good as Grant is a poor rebounder and the team often plays small, so they have been holding their own fine rebounding.

On the offensive side Blazers rating is 111.9 which is 15th. Turnovers are dead last in the NBA at 15%. With all the shooting, Dame, Ant, Grant, etc it seems like the Blazers have potential to be a top 10 or top5 offense. If they can do that and keep the defense playing well they have the potential to be a legit HCA team.

10 game stretches we see wild swings from teams. Maybe Blazers were ready to go at game 1 while others teams are rounding in to shape; who knows. But over 20 games if a team keeps it up they are nearly always legit. Will be interesting and possibly very exciting to see where this Blazers team ends up after game 20.
 
mook said:
PER is notoriously misleading, and more so with a small sample size. Still, it's interesting to see:
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15.0 is supposed to be an average starting NBA player. To see 11 guys on our roster at 13.0 or higher is very encouraging.

It kind of follows the eye test. When our starters sit, it doesn't feel like there's a big drop off in scoring or rebounding (metrics PER measures reasonably well).

Also interesting to see how far down the list Ant is. If there's one similarity he seems to have with CJ, it's that if he's not scoring efficiently he's not going to give you a jaw-dropping PER. He just doesn't do a lot of other box score things.

Anyway, I entered this season not sold at all on Billups. The way he's got these disparate parts playing as a team is extremely encouraging though.

Since I'm posting stats, I thought it'd be nice to have a quick scan of Sharpe's game log:
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4 of his first 6 games are in double digit scoring. That 8 rebound night in our loss kind of snuck by me. His minutes are trending upward. He's a + player in every win.

And of course, the Rookie of the Year contest. It often comes down to PPG, so I sorted by that:

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He's getting the fewest minutes of anyone in the 7. He may not win, given the way Banchero and Mathurin are going. At least on pure stats. Doesn't track highlight dunks though. :)
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Is there an easy way to calculate and sort those rookie number per 36 minutes?
 
It looks like the defense is legitimately Top 10. It will only get better with time and the return of GP2. If we can improve the offense by limiting turnovers, we can be a Top 10 offense as well.

What are teams that have a Top 10 offense and a Top 10 defense? Legit championship contenders.
 
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