See ya Planned Parenthood. Disgusting practices.

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Denny Crane said:
That's just silly. Sorry to say it.

Even an abortion isn't catastrophic.

People don't go bankrupt because they have a child or an abortion.

They do if they undergo an extended hospital stay or brain surgery.
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You don't have to be sorry, it just really makes me wonder if you truly know how much medical care costs. C sections are major surgery requiring multiple days in the hospital, it's going to be well over $10,000 if there are no complications.
 
Spud147 said:
Because hospital ERs can't turn away women in labor and when they don't have prenatal care they have high risk deliveries and more complications which increase the cost even more... that cost gets passed on to government agencies who pass that on to tax payers and insurance companies who pass that on to their consumers. It's far more cost effective to provide birth control.
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No they can't.

http://law.freeadvice.com/malpractice_law/hospital_malpractice/hospital-patients.htm

The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA)

Imagine a pregnant woman without health insurance living in an area that does not have a public hospital. If she goes into labor and the closest hospital is privately-run, the EMTLA requires that the hospital must admit the woman regardless of her ability to pay as childbirth is considered an emergency situation. The woman's labor and delivery care, regardless of length and complication, should be indistinguishable from that of a fully insured patient. This equal treatment will continue until the end of the emergency (i.e. after the child is born and there are no complications).
 
Denny Crane said:
No they can't.

http://law.freeadvice.com/malpractice_law/hospital_malpractice/hospital-patients.htm

The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA)

Imagine a pregnant woman without health insurance living in an area that does not have a public hospital. If she goes into labor and the closest hospital is privately-run, the EMTLA requires that the hospital must admit the woman regardless of her ability to pay as childbirth is considered an emergency situation. The woman's labor and delivery care, regardless of length and complication, should be indistinguishable from that of a fully insured patient. This equal treatment will continue until the end of the emergency (i.e. after the child is born and there are no complications).
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Exactly, and somebody has to pay for it and it all eventually gets to us - the tax payers and the insurance premium payers.

My point is... what if this hypothetical pregnant woman didn't want to get pregnant in the first place but couldn't afford birth control pills (I'm not talking about abortion as birth control, Denny, I think that's where I'm confusing people).

I think birth control should be free to anyone who wants it. People who are truly anti-abortion should get on board with that!
 
Spud147 said:
Because hospital ERs can't turn away women in labor and when they don't have prenatal care they have high risk deliveries and more complications which increase the cost even more... that cost gets passed on to government agencies who pass that on to tax payers and insurance companies who pass that on to their consumers. It's far more cost effective to provide birth control.
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We can't stop women from getting pregnant, doing drugs, drinking, smoking, or not taking care of themselves.

We are not our sister's keeper.
 
Spud147 said:
Exactly, and somebody has to pay for it and it all eventually gets to us - the tax payers and the insurance premium payers.

My point is... what if this hypothetical pregnant woman didn't want to get pregnant in the first place but couldn't afford birth control pills (I'm not talking about abortion as birth control, Denny, I think that's where I'm confusing people).

I think birth control should be free to anyone who wants it. People who are truly anti-abortion should get on board with that!
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Donate to the charity of your choice that hands out birth control. There aren't that many who can't afford it.
 
Denny Crane said:
We can't stop women from getting pregnant, doing drugs, drinking, smoking, or not taking care of themselves.

We are not our sister's keeper.
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Ha! A solid selection process is needed here early on. But that will do for now.
 
Denny Crane said:
We can't stop women from getting pregnant, doing drugs, drinking, smoking, or not taking care of themselves.

We are not our sister's keeper.
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And now we don't even want to stop ourselves from beating the shit out of them.



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Denny Crane said:
We can't stop women from getting pregnant, doing drugs, drinking, smoking, or not taking care of themselves.

We are not our sister's keeper.
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I'm not trying to be anybody's keeper, I'm just trying to save us all (us all meaning society) money and preventing unwanted pregnancy is a no brainer. This did start out to be a thread about Planned Parenthood after all.
 
Should we have races or telethons to fund these birth control charities? Is Jerry Lewis still alive?

"I will wear the blood red ribbon to show support for lady parts!"
 
Spud147 said:
I'm not trying to be anybody's keeper, I'm just trying to save us all (us all meaning society) money and preventing unwanted pregnancy is a no brainer. This did start out to be a thread about Planned Parenthood after all.
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Donate to Planned Parenthood. I will if it's defunded.

According to the dog, women who go there have to beg for services.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Should we have races or telethons to fund these birth control charities? Is Jerry Lewis still alive?

"I will wear the blood red ribbon to show support for lady parts!"
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And you thought the sight of Lady Gaga in a meat dress was horrifying!
 
Denny Crane said:
Donate to Planned Parenthood. I will if it's defunded.

According to the dog, women who go there have to beg for services.
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If their funding is cut there will be begging and pleading for services. Consider it a two for one.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
If their funding is cut there will be begging and pleading for services. Consider it a two for one.
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Planned Parenthood already raises funds for 2/3 of what it does.

It either gets 1/3 smaller or they raise more.

People who don't donate now because govt. takes care of it for them will have to donate. If the cause is so worthy.
 
Spud147 said:
I absolutely will and it's good to hear you will too!
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It's all I've been saying. We should foot the bill, not the government.

Not for Planned Parenthood, not for pro life causes.

The government should enable them both to thrive, not pick and choose.
 
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