[Semi-OT] The Lakers are an absolute Dumpster Fire and I am loving every second of it

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chris_in_pdx said:
This is why sports betting is so huge today. People bet with their emotions rather than their head. The bookies know that so they clean up.
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It's why the public teams always have worse odds, the Lakers, Cowboys, Yankees are teams people love to bet so they always have the worst odds.
 
I believe I’m to blame for this lost. I scored some great tickets for my son The HCP Jr. to the game….. I believe he jinxed the Lake Show! He said he had a great time though!
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THE HCP said:
I believe I’m to blame for this lost. I scored some great tickets for my son The HCP Jr. to the game….. I believe he jinxed the Lake Show! He said he had a great time though!
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Well done Junior.

He looks like one of those guys who just goes by Junior his whole life and none of his friends even know the rest of his name.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I would rather start Deni at PG over Reaves.
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no way. A PG can't be a turnover factory like he was. Avdija's assist/turnover rate this season was 1.43....that's a total disaster rate for a PG. Reaves was 2.38, Simons was 2.35; Scoot was 1.89

Haliburton was 5.61; CP3 4.69; Van Vleet 3.83; Dinwiddie 3.42; Payton Pritchard 3.36; Jokic 3.11; Jrue 3.10; Jamal Murray 2.92; Brunson 2.90
 
wizenheimer said:
no way. A PG can't be a turnover factory like he was. Avdija's assist/turnover rate this season was 1.43....that's a total disaster rate for a PG. Reaves was 2.38, Simons was 2.35; Scoot was 1.89

Haliburton was 5.61; CP3 4.69; Van Vleet 3.83; Dinwiddie 3.42; Payton Pritchard 3.36; Jokic 3.11; Jrue 3.10; Jamal Murray 2.92; Brunson 2.90
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How did I know you would come back with "stats". Bottom line is, Reaves is not a PG either. I stand by my statement that is he would not start for us.

I was just listening to NBA radio, and they were lighting him up for his lack of defense. At least Deni plays D.
 
THE HCP said:
I believe I’m to blame for this lost. I scored some great tickets for my son The HCP Jr. to the game….. I believe he jinxed the Lake Show! He said he had a great time though!
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Your son was rooting for the Lakers? I'm going to have to rethink this good dad stuff I have been saying about you.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
How did I know you would come back with "stats". Bottom line is, Reaves is not a PG either. I stand by my statement that is he would not start for us.

I was just listening to NBA radio, and they were lighting him up for his lack of defense. At least Deni plays D.
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I use stats because they often demonstrate the fallacy of assumption. I also wasn't suggesting that Reaves might start over Avdija so that's a straw man. Just that he might be better as a lead guard than Simons or Scoot. Would I want Reaves starting over Scoot? not really. I'd like to see Scoot as a full time starter for a season, instead of a limited minute backup

the Deni as PG suggestion has been made many times. I can't see it. I even question how good he'll be as a secondary facilitator compared with the rest of the NBA

player: assist rate - assist/turnover rate

Avdija: 19.9% - 1.43

Jalen Williams: 23.4% - 2.46
Alperen Sengun: 24.1% - 1.89
Amen Thompson: 16.9% - 1.90
Austin Reaves: 24.9% - 2.38
Jamal Murray: 23.2% - 2.92
Aaron Gordon: 15.0% - 2.25
Julius Randle: 22.5% - 1.65
Dante DiVencenzo: 20.2% - 2.27
Draymond Green: 26.2% - 2.20
Jimmy Butler: 26.5% - 4.05
Desmond Bane: 26.2% - 2.21
Sabonis: 26.0% - 2.09
Malik Monk: 25.7% - 2.28
Dinwiddie: 22.1% - 3.42
Devin Booker: 30.6% - 2.40
Stephen Castle: 22.8% - 1.88
Zion: 36.6% - 1.77
Jayson Tatum: 27.0% - 2.06
Josh Hart: 20.7% - 2.87
Andrew Nembhard: 22.5% - 2.91
Giannis: 36.0% - 2.10
Franz Wagner: 26.6% - 2.16
Paolo Banchero: 26.0% - 1.61
Adebayo: 20.0% - 2.09
Scottie Barnes: 27.7% - 2.04

Avdija: 19.9% - 1.43
Scoot: 28.1% - 1.89
Simons: 23.3% - 2.36
Banton: 21.5% - 1.86

Now, Deni's signature is turbo mode. I think he gets a lot of turnovers by relentlessly attacking the basket. Do he's probebly cut down on his turnovers by putting a bit of throttle on his dribble-penetration. But at this point, he just doesn't protect the ball and value possessions enough to be the secondary facilitator, let alone the first

oops....more stats....sorry
 
wizenheimer said:
Now, Deni's signature is turbo mode. I think he gets a lot of turnovers by relentlessly attacking the basket. Do he's probebly cut down on his turnovers by putting a bit of throttle on his dribble-penetration. But at this point, he just doesn't protect the ball and value possessions enough to be the secondary facilitator, let alone the first
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Agree. Which is exactly why I don't think their stats are the best way to compare all of them. Too many variables like how they play and who they are playing with. I mean, Reaves was playing alongside Luka and LBJ. Who you play with matters.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Agree. Which is exactly why I don't think their stats are the best way to compare all of them. Too many variables like how they play and who they are playing with. I mean, Reaves was playing alongside Luka and LBJ. Who you play with matters.
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but Deni isn't the only player on that list that attacks the basket

Deni and Sengun both take around 32% of their shots at the rim. Giannis is over 50%; Amen 45%; Aaron Gordon 35%; Wagner 27%; Zion 60%

now, in order to get a fuller picture, would probably need to factor assisted FG rate

still, out of all those secondary facilitators, Deni had the 3rd lowest assist rate and by far the worst assist/turnover rate. So even adjusting his numbers up a little he's still not in the realm of an acceptable option as a PG, at least not compared to the rest of the NBA
 
wizenheimer said:
but Deni isn't the only player on that list that attacks the basket

Deni and Sengun both take around 32% of their shots at the rim. Giannis is over 50%; Amen 45%; Aaron Gordon 35%; Wagner 27%; Zion 60%

now, in order to get a fuller picture, would probably need to factor assisted FG rate

still, out of all those secondary facilitators, Deni had the 3rd lowest assist rate and by far the worst assist/turnover rate. So even adjusting his numbers up a little he's still not in the realm of an acceptable option as a PG, at least not compared to the rest of the NBA
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I feel like the turnovers should drastically improve over time. Didn’t see a ton of him in Washington but feel like this was the first time he’s really been allowed to expand his game to running the offense. Like anything you do it enough you start to improve over time. This is why I really felt like not starting Scoot was such a major mistake. He now has to use next year as his learning year (assuming they finally make him our starting PG).
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/44950311/lakers-early-nba-playoffs-exit-blow-betting-public


Entering the playoffs, more money had been wagered on the Los Angeles Lakers to win the Finals than on any other team at multiple sportsbooks. That money will be staying with the house.

The Lakers bowed out of the NBA playoffs in the first round Wednesday, losing to the Minnesota Timberwolves in five games. They were nearly -200 favorites to beat the Timberwolves and attracted lopsided support from bettors to win the series. Lakers in six games was the most popular betting option in the series at ESPN BET.
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Stop it. I can only get so erect.
 
The BOY was rooting for Ant and the Wolves actually. Said he couldn’t cheer though because of where he was sitting.HA!
 
@THE HCP just found your dream job. Buh-bye!


The Lakers posted a job listing for a head strength and conditioning coach who is “responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room”

Job application:https://www.teamworkonline.com/bask...jobs/head-strength-conditioning-coach-2121092

Pay 200-250k

Position Summary: The Head Strength & Conditioning Coach for the Los Angeles Lakers ensures that each player has an individually designed strength and conditioning plan to promote and support his maximum performance and health maintenance. This role implements, monitors and adjusts player workouts year-round as needed. In addition, the Head Strength & Conditioning Coach is responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room. Must be able to work well in a team, work irregular hours, and travel overnight for extensive periods of time.

Interesting job posting from the Lakers, any qualified applicants here ready to hold the Lakers players accountable next year?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
@THE HCP just found your dream job. Buh-bye!


The Lakers posted a job listing for a head strength and conditioning coach who is “responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room”

Job application:https://www.teamworkonline.com/bask...jobs/head-strength-conditioning-coach-2121092

Pay 200-250k

Position Summary: The Head Strength & Conditioning Coach for the Los Angeles Lakers ensures that each player has an individually designed strength and conditioning plan to promote and support his maximum performance and health maintenance. This role implements, monitors and adjusts player workouts year-round as needed. In addition, the Head Strength & Conditioning Coach is responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room. Must be able to work well in a team, work irregular hours, and travel overnight for extensive periods of time.

Interesting job posting from the Lakers, any qualified applicants here ready to hold the Lakers players accountable next year?
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The official job title is actually "Make sure Luka isn't Fat"
 
SlyPokerDog said:
@THE HCP just found your dream job. Buh-bye!


The Lakers posted a job listing for a head strength and conditioning coach who is “responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room”

Job application:https://www.teamworkonline.com/bask...jobs/head-strength-conditioning-coach-2121092

Pay 200-250k

Position Summary: The Head Strength & Conditioning Coach for the Los Angeles Lakers ensures that each player has an individually designed strength and conditioning plan to promote and support his maximum performance and health maintenance. This role implements, monitors and adjusts player workouts year-round as needed. In addition, the Head Strength & Conditioning Coach is responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room. Must be able to work well in a team, work irregular hours, and travel overnight for extensive periods of time.

Interesting job posting from the Lakers, any qualified applicants here ready to hold the Lakers players accountable next year?
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Hold my iced tea FAMS!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
@THE HCP just found your dream job. Buh-bye!


The Lakers posted a job listing for a head strength and conditioning coach who is “responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room”

Job application:https://www.teamworkonline.com/bask...jobs/head-strength-conditioning-coach-2121092

Pay 200-250k

Position Summary: The Head Strength & Conditioning Coach for the Los Angeles Lakers ensures that each player has an individually designed strength and conditioning plan to promote and support his maximum performance and health maintenance. This role implements, monitors and adjusts player workouts year-round as needed. In addition, the Head Strength & Conditioning Coach is responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room. Must be able to work well in a team, work irregular hours, and travel overnight for extensive periods of time.

Interesting job posting from the Lakers, any qualified applicants here ready to hold the Lakers players accountable next year?
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Mrs. HCP maybe.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
@THE HCP just found your dream job. Buh-bye!


The Lakers posted a job listing for a head strength and conditioning coach who is “responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room”

Job application:https://www.teamworkonline.com/bask...jobs/head-strength-conditioning-coach-2121092

Pay 200-250k

Position Summary: The Head Strength & Conditioning Coach for the Los Angeles Lakers ensures that each player has an individually designed strength and conditioning plan to promote and support his maximum performance and health maintenance. This role implements, monitors and adjusts player workouts year-round as needed. In addition, the Head Strength & Conditioning Coach is responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room. Must be able to work well in a team, work irregular hours, and travel overnight for extensive periods of time.

Interesting job posting from the Lakers, any qualified applicants here ready to hold the Lakers players accountable next year?
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Guess who I just saw exercising at the Lakers practice facility?!?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
@THE HCP just found your dream job. Buh-bye!


The Lakers posted a job listing for a head strength and conditioning coach who is “responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room”

Job application:https://www.teamworkonline.com/bask...jobs/head-strength-conditioning-coach-2121092

Pay 200-250k

Position Summary: The Head Strength & Conditioning Coach for the Los Angeles Lakers ensures that each player has an individually designed strength and conditioning plan to promote and support his maximum performance and health maintenance. This role implements, monitors and adjusts player workouts year-round as needed. In addition, the Head Strength & Conditioning Coach is responsible for motivating players and holding them accountable for their work in the weight room. Must be able to work well in a team, work irregular hours, and travel overnight for extensive periods of time.

Interesting job posting from the Lakers, any qualified applicants here ready to hold the Lakers players accountable next year?
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Damn you could barely afford a one bedroom apartment on that salary.
 
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