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I was always a defender of Zach, but even when I defended him I knew that there was always a chance some off court action would get him in trouble. Hopefully he wasn't involved, but I won't be to surprise if he is. I don't think weed is to big a deal, but you would think he'd be smarter than that.
 
mgb said:
I was always a defender of Zach, but even when I defended him I knew that there was always a chance some off court action would get him in trouble. Hopefully he wasn't involved, but I won't be to surprise if he is. I don't think weed is to big a deal, but you would think he'd be smarter than that.
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Why would you think he is smarter than that? This is the same dude that got busted with weed doing 100 down broadway in a Humvee, got accused of raping a stripper with his girlfreind in a downtown Portland Motel, stiffed a strip bar near the airport when he was supposed to be rehabbing, what is there in that history that says he has any brain whatsoever?
 
Way to go, Z-Bo!

He may not spend any time in prison but I am guessing he is staring down the barrel of a very lengthy suspension.
 
mgb said:
I don't think weed is to big a deal, but you would think he'd be smarter than that.
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I don't think players smoking pot is a big deal... I'd rather they didn't in the same sense that I'd rather they didn't drink booze, but really I barely care. However, someone driving while high is putting the general public at risk, that is a big deal. So when Tim Lincecum, Zach, Camby or whoever does this it shows a real lack of judgement/smarts. Being involved dealing on the scale that ZR is accused of would (if true) reflect a whole different level of numbnut. Dude's made 71M so far in his NBA career, it's hard to fathom why he'd take this sort of risk other then for some sort of criminal thrill. If he really is this stupid/bad, it makes more sense why he's been traded repeatedly for (apparently) so little. When he was traded from PDX, KP alluded to their being much more dirt on Zach that didn't hit the papers... I'd imagine that the league has been more informed on exactly whats what then we have

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ZBO WILL ESCAPE SCOTT FREE SON. THIS IS JUST SOME NARC WHO IS JUST A LITTLE BUG AND WILL BE SQUASHED. HOLLA
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
ZBO WILL ESCAPE SCOTT FREE SON. THIS IS JUST SOME NARC WHO IS JUST A LITTLE BUG AND WILL BE SQUASHED. HOLLA
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This snitching thing is an epidemic. There needs to be a telethon or something to help end this terrible affliction.
 
What he hasn't figured out yet, is that his homies seem loyal. Loyal until they are busted and their choice is Prison or give him up. When they are looking at 15 years+, selling out Zbo won't be an issue.
 
RR7 said:
We'd be worse off if that deal were never made, and Zach was currently a Blazer.
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I disagree. I'd take Zach over Rudy/Francis/Frye any day of the week. It was the case then and it's still the case now.

I believe that we could have signed Miller using a max MLE deal, so the cap space we got (a couple years later) for Zach didn't buy us anything, as far as I'm concerned.

Having seen the Blazers suck at the backup power forward spot for the last couple of years, I find it amazing anyone would doubt that Zach would have helped this team on the floor.

Ed O.
 
plus he's a huge expiring contract soon. Or could have possibly voided if he did get arrested.
 
Ed O said:
I disagree. I'd take Zach over Rudy/Francis/Frye any day of the week. It was the case then and it's still the case now.

I believe that we could have signed Miller using a max MLE deal, so the cap space we got (a couple years later) for Zach didn't buy us anything, as far as I'm concerned.

Having seen the Blazers suck at the backup power forward spot for the last couple of years, I find it amazing anyone would doubt that Zach would have helped this team on the floor.

Ed O.
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I didn't hate the Frye for Zach swap, as I thought Channing was a pretty promising young guy in New York, but mostly you're right, this team could have definitely used a little more Z-Bo with all of Oden's injuries, and LaMarcus' tendencies to drift out to 18 feet. Hindsight, 20/20 and all that.
 
Rehashing the Zach trade for the 43rd time this month aside, I heard that an actual FBI informant has named Zach as being heavily involved in this ring. This isn't toking with Sheed and Damon in a Hummer. This is go-to-pound-me-in-the-ass-prison-if-I'm-convicted sort of stuff. The Escalade is one thing, but the storage units, depending on what they found in them, are very hard to explain away.

Zach could be in very deep shit here. If he's indicted by a grand jury, will Stern suspend him for an entire season, or perhaps even longer?
 
Appears Zach is staying busy. ;)

http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/27/zach-...tack-arrest-strip-club-fight-beatdown-police/

It's been a bad morning for NBA star Zach Randolph -- TMZ has learned the 6'9" All-Star has been named in a police report detailing an alleged brawl in an L.A. area strip club yesterday.

According to the Gardena Police Department, officers responded to Starz strip club around 2 AM Wednesday morning -- after someone called 911 claiming a man named Gary Ferguson had been badly beaten by someone in Zach Randolph's crew.

Ferguson told police Zach was present at the club -- but did not strike him during the alleged attack.

But according to Ferguson, it's not the first time he's had a violent encounter with the Memphis Grizzlies player.

As TMZ previously reported, Ferguson sued Randolph last year -- claiming the NBA star attacked him in a pizza joint back in 2008. That case is set to go to trial in September.

As for the strip club incident -- we're told police are investigating. So far, no charges have been filed against anyone.

Adding to his legal problems -- in the last 24 hours, a report surfaced claiming Randolph has been linked to a drug ring in Indianapolis.
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http://www.nba.com/grizzlies/news/chris-wallace-statement-on-ZBo-100527.html

Memphis, Tennessee – The Memphis Grizzlies released the following statement today from Vice President of Basketball Operations and General Manager Chris Wallace, regarding media reports about forward Zach Randolph being implicated in an Indianapolis drug investigation.

“Since Zach Randolph became a member of this organization, he has been an active member of the Memphis community and embraced our core values of hard work and leadership. These qualities helped him develop into an NBA All-Star this season and guided one of the NBA’s youngest teams to a 16-game improvement.

“Zach’s continued commitment to the team has been evident the last couple of weeks as he’s been working out with members of our staff on the West Coast.

“Due to the ongoing police investigation, we do not feel it would be appropriate to comment further. Unless some other information surfaces, Zach remains a valued member of the Grizzlies family and Memphis community.”
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Ed O said:
I disagree. I'd take Zach over Rudy/Francis/Frye any day of the week. It was the case then and it's still the case now.

I believe that we could have signed Miller using a max MLE deal, so the cap space we got (a couple years later) for Zach didn't buy us anything, as far as I'm concerned.

Having seen the Blazers suck at the backup power forward spot for the last couple of years, I find it amazing anyone would doubt that Zach would have helped this team on the floor.

Ed O.
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You are assuming that Zach would accept being a back up, which is incorrect. Zach believes he is a star. Stars don't come off the bench.

Anyone who believes Stat-Bo is a quality player thinks the NBA works like a fantasy league. It doesn't and Z-Bo's empty stats wouldn't have helped Portland win any games last season.

Chemistry and ball movement are important to winning basketball games. Z-Bo is bad for chemistry and a black hole on offense.

He will never, ever again play a major roll on a winning basketball team.

I would take Rudy or Frye over that fat lazy shit bag any day of the week and consider myself lucky.
 
LittleAlex said:
You are assuming that Zach would accept being a back up, which is incorrect. Zach believes he is a star. Stars don't come off the bench.
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Haha.

So bring Aldridge off the bench. Why is Aldridge guaranteed a starting spot, even assuming Zach is inflexible?

Anyone who believes Stat-Bo is a quality player thinks the NBA works like a fantasy league. It doesn't and Z-Bo's empty stats wouldn't have helped Portland win any games last season.

Chemistry and ball movement are important to winning basketball games. Z-Bo is bad for chemistry and a black hole on offense.

He will never, ever again play a major roll on a winning basketball team.
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Mmm hmm. The Grizzlies would definitely have been better off without him this year.

Haha.

Ridiculous.

You sound like the Rasheed haters who claimed he was a cancer even as his team was winning the NBA title.

I would take Rudy or Frye over that fat lazy shit bag any day of the week and consider myself lucky.
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And your team would be lucky to make the playoffs and be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs... oh, wait. That's what happened.

Too bad your attitude is one that the Blazers had when they gave away Zach.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
Haha.

So bring Aldridge off the bench. Why is Aldridge guaranteed a starting spot, even assuming Zach is inflexible?



Mmm hmm. The Grizzlies would definitely have been better off without him this year.

Haha.

Ridiculous.

You sound like the Rasheed haters who claimed he was a cancer even as his team was winning the NBA title.



And your team would be lucky to make the playoffs and be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs... oh, wait. That's what happened.

Too bad your attitude is one that the Blazers had when they gave away Zach.

Ed O.
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Yes, it was certainly a great season....considering how abysmal the Grizzlies have been over their history.

Compared teams that have ever had success it was yet another year of failure.

But hey, they would have made the playoffs in the Least. I guess that counts for something.



No it doesn't.


If you want to believe that a dude that played zero defense, was a locker room cancer and a black hole on offense is a good player I suppose you can.

But I cannot concieve of a reason why you would.
 
Yes, Ed O is completely wrong on this one. Sometimes it's more than just someone's ability to put a basketball in a hoop. Zach can score, there's no doubt about that. However, he does nothing to make his teammates better and his off-court issues are a black mark for the franchise in the eyes of the community. Even if we had traded him for nothing, it would have been a good deal.
 
Don't under estimate how important good chemistry is to a team. Especially a very young one at the time. Zach was not exactly bringing in a lot of offers with his huge contract and baggage. Even though I was a Zach fan, he needed to be on the first bus out of town. I am guessing Blazer management knew a lot more than we did about some of his off the court habbits.
 
tlongII said:
Yes, Ed O is completely wrong on this one. Sometimes it's more than just someone's ability to put a basketball in a hoop. Zach can score, there's no doubt about that. However, he does nothing to make his teammates better and his off-court issues are a black mark for the franchise in the eyes of the community. Even if we had traded him for nothing, it would have been a good deal.
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I was one of those people who had grown kind of tired of Zach and wasn't opposed to him being moved, but I was pretty shocked that they dumped for so little in return. I guess I bought the line at the time that this was the best deal they could get. that said, sure Zach has had his problems here and elsewhere, but Memphis apparently loves the guy, and he helped that team add 16 wins to its total from the year before (a team that did nothing to really add any additional talent because they wasted their 3rd pick on Thabust, and their core guys all pretty much played to the same level they did the year before). You can dislike Zach all you want for the negative things that were associated with him during his time in Portland, but sometimes players do change their game and mature as a player and in this case that translated to both more wins and a better offense with him on the floor for Memphis (+7 points per48 better with him on the court than off).

As for this drug smuggling thing, we should probably bear in mind that he hasn't even been charged with anything (yet) ... when/if he is, then we can start talking about what a detriment he is to his franchise and community.
 
If Memphis loves the guy, then I would expect their attendance to improve a little this year. I guess we will see.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I was one of those people who had grown kind of tired of Zach and wasn't opposed to him being moved, but I was pretty shocked that they dumped for so little in return. I guess I bought the line at the time that this was the best deal they could get. that said, sure Zach has had his problems here and elsewhere, but Memphis apparently loves the guy, and he helped that team add 16 wins to its total from the year before (a team that did nothing to really add any additional talent because they wasted their 3rd pick on Thabust, and their core guys all pretty much played to the same level they did the year before). You can dislike Zach all you want for the negative things that were associated with him during his time in Portland, but sometimes players do change their game and mature as a player and in this case that translated to both more wins and a better offense with him on the floor for Memphis (+7 points per48 better with him on the court than off).

As for this drug smuggling thing, we should probably bear in mind that he hasn't even been charged with anything (yet) ... when/if he is, then we can start talking about what a detriment he is to his franchise and community.
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We can start talking about what a detriment he is to the community any time we want. It doesn't matter whether he's charged with anything or not. Just ask his ex-neighbors over in Stafford.
 
tlongII said:
We can start talking about what a detriment he is to the community any time we want. It doesn't matter whether he's charged with anything or not. Just ask his ex-neighbors over in Stafford.
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Stafford is an extremely racist arm of LO, primarily ex-Californians in McMansions looking for a whiter land, but I'm sure that wouldn't influence their opinion of a few young black guys who like to party living just down the street from them. Used to be a nice farm area inhabited by normal folks.
 
Zach was an all-star this season. Roy had two appearances in recent years, and Rasheed had two appearances in 2000, 2001. Before that it was Clyde in 1994. That is over 16 years with only two players representing our franchise, and we gave away a possible third for nothing.

Grizzlies not changing plans -- including a Zach Randolph extension

Yes, the Grizzlies are frustrated in the wake of this public relations hit. But to the question of whether Randolph's latest controversy will re-shape the Grizzlies' draft and/or free-agent strategy, the answer is no.

The organization finds Randolph's predicament disappointing but not at all detrimental to their offseason plans. The issue of whether Randolph will receive a contract extension that will keep him in a Grizzlies uniform beyond this season remains centered on finances. Randolph's future hinges squarely on how much of a pay cut he's willing to accept.
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Why would Z-Bo accept a pay cut? As far as I can tell, there are only 24 All-Stars a year, and almost all the other ones are on rookie scale or making max money. If this was a purely basketball decision, why would a 28-y/o All-Star PF who consistently puts up 20/10 have to take a pay cut?
 
BrianFromWA said:
Why would Z-Bo accept a pay cut? As far as I can tell, there are only 24 All-Stars a year, and almost all the other ones are on rookie scale or making max money. If this was a purely basketball decision, why would a 28-y/o All-Star PF who consistently puts up 20/10 have to take a pay cut?
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Zach is probably an 85-90% max player, and a lot of that has to do with his off the court troubles; I doubt his name is much in demand around the league (despite his big numbers).
 
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Draco said:
Zach was an all-star this season. Roy had two appearances in recent years, and Rasheed had two appearances in 2000, 2001. Before that it was Clyde in 1994. That is over 16 years with only two players representing our franchise, and we gave away a possible third for nothing.

Grizzlies not changing plans -- including a Zach Randolph extension
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Being chosen to the all star game doesn't mean you are really any good.

For proof, please see Magloire, Jamal.
 
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