Sergio a Knick?

[hasoos]

Mark my words. Sergio leaving Portland this year was inevitable, but I feel pretty strongly about this.

Nate not putting enough effort to develop him here will come back to bite us in the ass.

Well then we can mark you down in the chronicles of basketball history as being right if it happens. The Chroniclers of basketball history know all, and quake at your prophecy of Sergio destruction!!!!

 

[Minstrel]

Given what we got for Telfair, maybe KP is getting the #8 pick for Sergio and parts.

There would be a nice sort of symmetry there, as Rodriguez and Telfair are/were very similar sorts of players for Portland. Very young point guard prospects with exciting passing talent, ability to penetrate, inability to finish, shoot or defend.

Telfair got Portland a high pick that ended up becoming Roy (via Foye). Maybe Sergio will have similar impact.

Of course, Portland took back the very bad LaFrentz contract in that deal. So perhaps Portland will be taking back a bad contract in this deal, too.

 

[alex42083]

Sergio is going to rock it big time under D'Antoni.

I can't wait to steal him in my fantasy draft next year. He will be a stats monster.

I wouldn't get too excited there. He doesn't shoot a high FG percentage, doesn't make too many 3s, doesn't rebound, doesn't steal or block shots.
Unless your league is all about assists.

 

[mobes23]

I wouldn't be at all surpised to see Sergio score a lot and get flashy assists (although coupled with dumb turnovers). Quite possibly, he might become a good player to have on a fantasy basketball team. But I'd be very surprised to see him become any kind of defender or "glue" guy who makes his team better and helps it to win.

 

[RickyRubio]

This is exciting!!!!! KP is the freaking man!!!!!1 I cannot wait now to see what is going to happen.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

There would be a nice sort of symmetry there, as Rodriguez and Telfair are/were very similar sorts of players for Portland. Very young point guard prospects with exciting passing talent, ability to penetrate, inability to finish, shoot or defend.

Telfair got Portland a high pick that ended up becoming Roy (via Foye). Maybe Sergio will have similar impact.

Of course, Portland took back the very bad LaFrentz contract in that deal. So perhaps Portland will be taking back a bad contract in this deal, too.

Eddy Curry or Jared Jeffries, perhaps?

 

[andalusian]

There would be a nice sort of symmetry there, as Rodriguez and Telfair are/were very similar sorts of players for Portland. Very young point guard prospects with exciting passing talent, ability to penetrate, inability to finish, shoot or defend.

Telfair got Portland a high pick that ended up becoming Roy (via Foye). Maybe Sergio will have similar impact.

Of course, Portland took back the very bad LaFrentz contract in that deal. So perhaps Portland will be taking back a bad contract in this deal, too.

If we take Curry with the #8 there would be another symmetry - as he is a guy that is athletic but not too athletic and people question his impact at the next level as they questioned Roy's.

I would be really surprised if this really happens - because Curry sure seems like a match made in heaven to D'Antoni's system...

 

[Minstrel]

Eddy Curry or Jared Jeffries, perhaps?

If the #8 pick is involved, Curry would be my guess. Bigger contract, Curry has no real hope of being useful in D'Antoni's system and he's one of those dark-clouds-over-the-franchise type of players, in terms of image. There were rumours earlier in the season of New York hoping to peddle Curry off on Portland, as I recall.

 

[alex42083]

If the #8 pick is involved, Curry would be my guess. Bigger contract, Curry has no real hope of being useful in D'Antoni's system and he's one of those dark-clouds-over-the-franchise type of players, in terms of image. There were rumours earlier in the season of New York hoping to peddle Curry off on Portland, as I recall.

One of the problems with that is we don't have any big expiring, or attractive contracts to give NY for Curry unless we give up on a guy like Joel which I doubt. And we can't trade Miles' salary I don't think.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

With KP already interviewing projected top-10 picks in Chicago, maybe it's part of a deal for the #8 pick?

Maybe, but I don't think Sergio alone is enough for the #8. And I don't see another package that makes sense for both teams.

It sounded from the article that there's a deal in place that would go down on draft day. If that's true I don't believe it can involve Lee because of his upcoming RFA status.

 

[Uther TheGardener]

lets hope KP doesnt let nate VETO anything!

 

[Minstrel]

One of the problems with that is we don't have any big expiring, or attractive contracts to give NY for Curry unless we give up on a guy like Joel which I doubt. And we can't trade Miles' salary I don't think.

Hmm, Portland could give their trade exception for the #8 pick (after New York drafts whoever Pritchard wants) and then give Sergio Rodriguez, the approximately $6 million in cap space and $2 million in cash to match Curry's $10.5 million deal. Of course, that makes the cost to Portland higher as it would burn their cap space.

Alternatively, Portland could re-sign Frye to a one-year $8 million deal and trade him, with Sergio, for Curry.

 

[alex42083]

Hmm, Portland could give their trade exception for the #8 pick (after New York drafts whoever Pritchard wants) and then give Sergio Rodriguez, the approximately $6 million in cap space and $2 million in cash to match Curry's $10.5 million deal. Of course, that makes the cost to Portland higher as it would burn their cap space.

Alternatively, Portland could re-sign Frye to a one-year $8 million deal and trade him, with Sergio, for Curry.

That's a possibility but would definitely be a hard sell to the fans that all this cap space we saved for, the $25 mil buyout of Stevie Franchise and letting go of RLEC for nothing, and in return, we get the No. 8 pick and the big fat contract of Eddy Curry.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Nate Robinson, calling it now.

Hmm. I didn't think NY could trade Nate because of his pending RFA status, but maybe they can if it's before July 1st.

Anyone know this?

 

[Minstrel]

That's a possibility but would definitely be a hard sell to the fans that all this cap space we saved for, the $25 mil buyout of Stevie Franchise and letting go of RLEC for nothing, and in return, we get the No. 8 pick and the big fat contract of Eddy Curry.

I guess it depends on where it all leads. If, for example, Pritchard can use the #8 pick and another asset or two to get the #2 pick to select Rubio, I'd think it was worth it. But right now, that still seems hard to see.

Alternatively, perhaps Pritchard would use the #8 pick to work a sign-and-trade for Sessions. If all it cost in talent was Sergio, then that would be a nice move. Signing Sessions directly would use up the cap space anyway, but the advantage of doing it this way is that it eliminates the risk of another team signing him.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Mark my words. Sergio leaving Portland this year was inevitable, but I feel pretty strongly about this.

Nate not putting enough effort to develop him here will come back to bite us in the ass.

Completely agree.

 

[Ed O]

could be a deal for the Balkman exception to get mas capspace.

Yeah... that's what I'm thinking. Portland basically punts Sergio, giving him away for a bit more cap space. Sergio's gonna make $1.5m next year, and while that's a pretty cheap player, that could help us in the free agent market.

Could it be part of a bigger deal? Sure. I'm keeping my expectations in check, though, and believe it'll be just a salary giveaway.

Ed O.

 

[alex42083]

I guess it depends on where it all leads. If, for example, Pritchard can use the #8 pick and another asset or two to get the #2 pick to select Rubio, I'd think it was worth it. But right now, that still seems hard to see.

Alternatively, perhaps Pritchard would use the #8 pick to work a sign-and-trade for Sessions. If all it cost in talent was Sergio, then that would be a nice move. Signing Sessions directly would use up the cap space anyway, but the advantage of doing it this way is that it eliminates the risk of another team signing him.

Good points. Certainly exciting to hear the possibilities of what could come out of all of this. There's a lot of ways this could go.

 

[Ed O]

This seems odd. Almost as if this news was not meant to be out until draft day. The article is dated June 25, 2009 which is almost three weeks away. The article also says the deal was agreed to 20 days ago. Is that twenty days from today or from June 25, 2009? Very odd.

It's dated today, and the way it's written, it defines June 25 as draft day. Like it's written in the future. I think it's saying, from that vantage point, that the trade was agreed to on June 5.

Ed O.

 

[RickyRubio]

One of the problems with that is we don't have any big expiring, or attractive contracts to give NY for Curry unless we give up on a guy like Joel which I doubt. And we can't trade Miles' salary I don't think.

Yeah but we do have money. We can just give them our cap space, right?

 

[Crimson the Cat]

If the #8 pick is involved, Curry would be my guess. Bigger contract, Curry has no real hope of being useful in D'Antoni's system and he's one of those dark-clouds-over-the-franchise type of players, in terms of image. There were rumours earlier in the season of New York hoping to peddle Curry off on Portland, as I recall.

I would be shocked if it were for Curry's contract. Jared Jeffries does extend past the 2010 off season though and they would be motivated to move this.

His versatility is something Pritch and Nate would find very useful. He's tough dude too. His experience in college would be another attractive aspect.

I say we're going after the #8 and Jeffries.

 

[RickyRubio]

That's a possibility but would definitely be a hard sell to the fans that all this cap space we saved for, the $25 mil buyout of Stevie Franchise and letting go of RLEC for nothing, and in return, we get the No. 8 pick and the big fat contract of Eddy Curry.

But, Currys contract expires the year after, which is fine in my book. When he expires, we will need to be signing some of our guys to extensions. So it's like we are putting that money on hold till next year. And we get someone who can actually play in return.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

One of the problems with that is we don't have any big expiring, or attractive contracts to give NY for Curry unless we give up on a guy like Joel which I doubt. And we can't trade Miles' salary I don't think.

Not true. We could trade Sergio and Travis for their #8 and Jeffries. Travis' 3.6M would expire after the upcoming season.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Hmm. I didn't think NY could trade Nate because of his pending RFA status, but maybe they can if it's before July 1st.

Anyone know this?

If this deal has been on the table for roughly 3 weeks isn't that about the time that we heard Nate wanted to be a Blazer?

Personally I would love to get Lee as part of this deal and wouldn't be surprised to see Frye going back to NY.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

One of the problems with that is we don't have any big expiring, or attractive contracts to give NY for Curry unless we give up on a guy like Joel which I doubt. And we can't trade Miles' salary I don't think.

Just realized you were talking about Curry. My bad. You're right.

 

[RickyRubio]

Wow I will be amazed if KP pulls off some good ish again in the draft !!!!!!1

I cannot wait now. At the very least, I am pumped for the draft now. Whereas before this thread I could kinda really care less.

 

[mook]

Is Eddy Curry's playing career completely over? I know he's had heart and knee problems (and maybe more alarmingly weight problems). He only played 3 games this year.

He clearly was a bad match for D'Antoni. But is it realistic to think of him as a backup center in a more plodding half court system? If so, if we take on his garbage contract maybe you can start to think about trading Przybilla if the right deal comes along...

I'm not a big fan of his game (is anybody?) But he's big and was a pretty good scorer in the post. He's even more one-dimensional than Przybilla, but a backup center doesn't really have to be that dynamic, provided the few good things they do they do well.

*shrug* I suppose we'd most likely just cut him, as we did Francis.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Hmm, Portland could give their trade exception for the #8 pick (after New York drafts whoever Pritchard wants) and then give Sergio Rodriguez, the approximately $6 million in cap space and $2 million in cash to match Curry's $10.5 million deal. Of course, that makes the cost to Portland higher as it would burn their cap space.

Ultimately we'd use up our cap space though, as you pointed out, for the use of Curry and attaining the #8. I don't like it at all.

The idea of sign-and-trading Frye doesn't jive though. The article acts as if this is all a done deal, which means banking on Frye isn't likely.

 

[RickyRubio]

Ultimately we'd use up our cap space though, as you pointed out, for the use of Curry and attaining the #8. I don't like it at all.

You just gotta think of it like Currys contract will be coming off the books next year. So it would be another RLEC on our bench. But Curry could actually play (I think) if Greg or Joel got injured.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

If this deal has been on the table for roughly 3 weeks isn't that about the time that we heard Nate wanted to be a Blazer?

Personally I would love to get Lee as part of this deal and wouldn't be surprised to see Frye going back to NY.

It just doesn't add up. Frye, Lee, and Robinson cannot be dealt until after July 1st (the 15th technically). If something was pre-arranged, tampering issues would be brought up with the league by other teams.

Whatever is happening is likely having to do with either us taking on Jeffries and the #8 pick or just having NY absorb Sergio for the traded player exception.