Serious question: Why don't men flush?

[crandc]

I mean it, I'd like to know.

I take the commuter train to work. Downtown stations have no restrooms, but others have one each single stall men's and women's. If your train is in 3 minutes and the "correct" restroom is taken, well, when you've got to go, you've got to go. So it's not unusual for men to use the women's and vice versa.

At least half the time a man uses the women's restroom, he doesn't flush. Go in and confronted with a urine filled toilet, which is rather gross. Sure, I clean cat boxes but that's my responsibility; flushing after grown men is not. And it's not that they are just being inconsiderate to women. When I use the men's room out of necessity, same thing, at least half the time the toilet is unflushed.

It's VERY rare for a woman to not flush; I only recall seeing this once in all my years of using the train.

Is it just a public toilet thing or do men not flush at home as well? What is the deep reason behind so many men not flushing the can?

My totally non political non sports related idle curiosity thread.

(I asked this on Outsports.com and got no good reasons, although one guy suggested I write "men who don't flush are gay" on the wall and at least all the straight dudes will start flushing.)

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I mean it, I'd like to know.

I take the commuter train to work. Downtown stations have no restrooms, but others have one each single stall men's and women's. If your train is in 3 minutes and the "correct" restroom is taken, well, when you've got to go, you've got to go. So it's not unusual for men to use the women's and vice versa.

At least half the time a man uses the women's restroom, he doesn't flush. Go in and confronted with a urine filled toilet, which is rather gross. Sure, I clean cat boxes but that's my responsibility; flushing after grown men is not. And it's not that they are just being inconsiderate to women. When I use the men's room out of necessity, same thing, at least half the time the toilet is unflushed.

It's VERY rare for a woman to not flush; I only recall seeing this once in all my years of using the train.

Is it just a public toilet thing or do men not flush at home as well? What is the deep reason behind so many men not flushing the can?

My totally non political non sports related idle curiosity thread.

(I asked this on Outsports.com and got no good reasons, although one guy suggested I write "men who don't flush are gay" on the wall and at least all the straight dudes will start flushing.)

People don't flush? Gross. It grosses me out when I go to use a restroom, and it's not been flushed. Probably the only time I wouldn't flush is after using a urinal that already has no water in it AND the urinal was extremely nasty (usually only see this at dirty clubs/bars and/or several state parks). Other than that, I would say I always flush. So let's not overgeneralize and lump every guy in the same crowd. You probably wouldn't appreciate it if I lumped every woman or every lesbian in the same group, either.

 

[BrianFromWA]

A couple reasons off the top of my head...

First, I've had housemates who didn't think urine was "that bad." They'd flush a #2, but if it was "just" urine, no big deal, right? We had chats about that.

Second, there are guys (I tended to this when I was a kid) who think that touching anything in a public bathroom is gross. It's MUCH easier to just not flush and leave it for someone else than to get a piece of toilet paper and use it to flush. This may go for the seat issue as well, though that's just speculation on my part--I wouldn't think that anyone with that mindset would LIFT the seat in the first place.

Third, I think that consideration for others in general is something that isn't in vogue today.

EDIT: But as BG said above, I don't know that this is an epidemic...I rarely find unflushed toilets/urinals at work or the gym, movie theaters, etc.

 

[blazerboy30]

OMG YOU'RE SO SEXIST!!

WAAAAAA!

/crandc typical post/

 

[crandc]

If the shoe, er, bathroom, fits....

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

A couple reasons off the top of my head...

First, I've had housemates who didn't think urine was "that bad." They'd flush a #2, but if it was "just" urine, no big deal, right? We had chats about that.

Second, there are guys (I tended to this when I was a kid) who think that touching anything in a public bathroom is gross. It's MUCH easier to just not flush and leave it for someone else than to get a piece of toilet paper and use it to flush. This may go for the seat issue as well, though that's just speculation on my part--I wouldn't think that anyone with that mindset would LIFT the seat in the first place.

Third, I think that consideration for others in general is something that isn't in vogue today.

EDIT: But as BG said above, I don't know that this is an epidemic...I rarely find unflushed toilets/urinals at work or the gym, movie theaters, etc.

I think most guys I know avoid using public restrooms like the plague, unless they know they the bathrooms are extremely clean (or if they're at a bar drinking and can no longer hold it). I would venture to guess that most men that use train station restrooms are uncivilized, same as I would a woman using a men's restroom.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Another serious question

What the hell are you doing hanging around mens bathrooms to see if they flush or not?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

If the shoe, er, bathroom, fits....

But the bathroom doesn't fit. You're a woman, inquiring about using a men's room.

And if you, and other women are using the men's room, who's to say that it's only men that aren't flushing??

 

[WarriorFan]

"If it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down"

Really though, I think it is becuase some public restrooms are pretty gross and people dont want to touch anything. I don't think flushing is a big deal because I can always hit the lever with my foot. But I'll admit that I wont lift a piss covered seat, though I hope there's no one waiting to use it after me so they don't think that I'm the one who can't aim.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

LAZY

 

[Sedatedfork]

It's like asking an artist to burn his painting

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

"If it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down"

Really though, I think it is becuase some public restrooms are pretty gross and people dont want to touch anything. I don't think flushing is a big deal because I can always hit the lever with my foot. But I'll admit that I wont lift a piss covered seat, though I hope there's no one waiting to use it after me so they don't think that I'm the one who can't aim.

Another theory: It's a men's room. All the men just pee and don't flush, 1, because the public restroom is a dirty place, and 2, because it's Portland and we're trying to conserve water. But every man knows you should flush #2 down, and if you're not afraid to sit on a public toilet seat and let you "hang-down" hang down, then you're probably not afraid to touch the flusher.

 

[julius]

Another theory: It's a men's room. All the men just pee and don't flush, 1, because the public restroom is a dirty place, and 2, because it's Portland and we're trying to conserve water. But every man knows you should flush #2 down, and if you're not afraid to sit on a public toilet seat and let you "hang-down" hang down, then you're probably not afraid to touch the flusher.

crandc doesn't live in Portland.

Instead of making this out to being about her, why don't we just be honest? Im not saying you are in that group. Bobo had it right. People who don't flush are just lazy.

 

[blazerboy30]

crandc doesn't live in Portland.

Instead of making this out to being about her, why don't we just be honest?

Because when crandc is involved in posts, it is always more important for her to turn it into how sexist men are. Are you new here?

 

[Natebishop3]

I use my foot to flush if I'm using a toilet. A lot of guys don't flush a urinal though.

Sidenote: It's annoying that I have to open one or two doors to get out of a bathroom after I just washed my hands. What's the point of washing when you're just going to touch some nasty bathroom door handle?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

crandc doesn't live in Portland.

Instead of making this out to being about her, why don't we just be honest? Im not saying you are in that group. Bobo had it right. People who don't flush are just lazy.

I made a couple of theories (that came from my perspective), and gave my personal answer with it, too. Dunno what's wrong with that?

But please do tell.

And as I asked before.... If she and other women are using the men's room, how can you just assume it's all men that don't flush? I wouldn't be surprised if there were some women that aren't flushing. It's a legit question, no?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I use my foot to flush if I'm using a toilet. A lot of guys don't flush a urinal though.

Sidenote: It's annoying that I have to open one or two doors to get out of a bathroom after I just washed my hands. What's the point of washing when you're just going to touch some nasty bathroom door handle?

A better question: why is it that when there's a restroom, or restrooms, that are not designated for a particular sex.... And I'm waiting to use the restroom, if a woman walks up, she cuts in front of me and uses the restroom first? Kid you not, it's happened 3-4 times in the past 6-8 weeks.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

TO SAVE WATER AND BY EXTENSION...THE EARTH.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Laziness and/or improper potty training procedures.

On the gender issue, every woman I've talked to about public restrooms say they have a hard time imagining that men's bathrooms are more disgusting than women's. Apparently some messed up shit goes on in there.

 

[crandc]

Really? I have to say the men seem to be worse slobs, and that's not just gender bias, it's my observation. True, men don't try to flush sanitary pads down the toilet, but when women pee it goes into the bowl and not on the seat (forgive my being gross).

Honestly, I think people should learn toilet habits from cats.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Really? I have to say the men seem to be worse slobs, and that's not just gender bias, it's my observation. True, men don't try to flush sanitary pads down the toilet, but when women pee it goes into the bowl and not on the seat (forgive my being gross).

Honestly, I think people should learn toilet habits from cats.

There's nothing sanitary about one of those used pads. And are you saying we should learn to go to the bathroom in a box? Litter boxes are hardly sanitary. :MARIS61:

That being said..... I'm sure it's, one, a matter of laziness and two, people terrified to touch anything in the bathroom because they fear it is unsanitary, which then makes the bathroom even more unsanitary (self-fulfilling prophecy).

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Yeah, but maybe it's a generational issue? I've mainly talked to college aged females in a university setting, and apparently the university bathrooms are gross. Like, pee on the seat, poop on the floor gross. I don't know either, I honestly have a hard time believing it.

 

[Natebishop3]

We should all pee outside.... go natural baby!

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

We should all pee outside.... go natural baby!

That's what we do on the weekends at my place. We all chill out, start the fire, drink, chit-chat, bring the TV outside to watch some sports. And we have a designated peeing area (when you drink that much, it's easier to find a spot outside that continuously going in and out of the house).

 

[Natebishop3]

That's what we do on the weekends at my place. We all chill out, start the fire, drink, chit-chat, bring the TV outside to watch some sports. And we have a designated peeing area (when you drink that much, it's easier to find a spot outside that continuously going in and out of the house).

Exactly. That's how it's done.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Exactly. That's how it's done.

Exactly. crandc thinks guys have a problem peeing in the toilet as it is - wait 'til she sees a toilet after a bunch of drunk dudes take turns trying to pee in the toilet over the course of a long night of drinking.

 

[crandc]

Seen that, BlazingGiants.

Outside has its points. In fact the cats mostly go outside, way deep in the shrubbery where I never see it.

Maybe it is generational, when I was in college way back when the restrooms were decent.

Last Friday at work we spent the day (it was "give back week") pulling weeds in Presidio National Park, the only time I ever envy men is when I have to pee in the middle of nowhere. It was the equivalent of a 3 block walk to ladies' room, not fun when you REALLY need to go, but nowhere enough cover for a woman to "do her business" outdoors.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Another serious question

What the hell are you doing hanging around mens bathrooms to see if they flush or not?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Do you really want an answer to that question?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

So, why don't men flush?

Gee, I dunno. I always have. I rarely see unflushed toilets. Sometimes my wife has reported them in the ladies powder room. So I suppose it cuts both ways.

So why don't woman always flush?

Also, why do women try and flush their 'kotex' and clog up the toilet?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Seen that, BlazingGiants.

Outside has its points. In fact the cats mostly go outside, way deep in the shrubbery where I never see it.

Maybe it is generational, when I was in college way back when the restrooms were decent.

Last Friday at work we spent the day (it was "give back week") pulling weeds in Presidio National Park, the only time I ever envy men is when I have to pee in the middle of nowhere. It was the equivalent of a 3 block walk to ladies' room, not fun when you REALLY need to go, but nowhere enough cover for a woman to "do her business" outdoors.

Sounds like fun. Next time I'm chillin' in PNP (which happens a few times/year), I'll think of you and your efforts of pulling weeds (and your efforts holding your pee).