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Natebishop3 said:
Explain it to me.
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The federal MJ laws are on the books.

The President is charged in the Constitution with enforcing the laws. Obama did not do his job, but that does not mean Trump must followl along.

Congress has the power to change the laws, not the President or the administration.

So Congress including the democrats must change the law if they do not want it enforced.

This may involve compromise on other issues to get the law changed by a majority of Congress, but such is life on the hill.
 
MarAzul said:
The federal MJ laws are on the books.

The President is charged in the Constitution with enforcing the laws. Obama did not do his job, but that does not mean Trump must followl along.

Congress has the power to change the laws, not the President or the administration.

So Congress including the democrats must change the law if they do not want it enforced.

This may involve compromise on other issues to get the law changed by a majority of Congress, but such is life on the hill.
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I don't think people are arguing that sessions doesn't have the right, they are saying this move is detrimental to society. And due to the corruption of our representatives, they don't do what is in the best interest of their constituents if they can raise more money voting the other way. Sessions is within his rights. But perhaps those rights need to be changed. Or we need a better "sessions:" Or we need better representatives. Or we need to get money out of politics so our representatives will find it most prudent to vote according to the will of their constituents instead of their campaign coffers.
 
MarAzul said:
The federal MJ laws are on the books.

The President is charged in the Constitution with enforcing the laws. Obama did not do his job, but that does not mean Trump must followl along.

Congress has the power to change the laws, not the President or the administration.

So Congress including the democrats must change the law if they do not want it enforced.
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So, I guess this means you want the Logan Act strictly enforced, right?

barfo
 
barfo said:
So, I guess this means you want the Logan Act strictly enforced, right?

barfo
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It does not seem to be a pressing issue at the moment. But if you wish, I can go along with jailing Jackson for his glory seeking.
 
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arguing that sessions doesn't have the right,
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I don't see it as a right. I see it as an obligation until the law is changed and an opportunity to use it in trade on other issues congress currently must or should address.
 
There are all sorts of laws that are overlooked. Take "blue" laws for example, laws that were enacted to make sure people attend church. In Winona Lake, Wisconsin if you eat ice cream on a sunday you commit a crime. That's just one of hundreds.

If you are driving 61 mph in a 60 mph zone I guess you should get a ticket? There are laws on the books that would make it illegal for my fiancee to orally pleasure me in some states. Picking and choosing is done all the time.
 
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There are all sorts of laws that are overlooked. Take "blue" laws for example, laws that were enacted to make sure people attend church. In Winona Lake, Wisconsin if you eat ice cream on a sunday you commit a crime. That's just one of hundreds.

If you are driving 61 mph in a 60 mph zone I guess you should get a ticket? There are laws on the books that would make it illegal for my fiancee to orally pleasure me in some states. Picking and choosing is done all the time.
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various sex acts are still illegal on the books...lawmakers look the other way when it comes to oral sex though...what we don't need is to lock people up and clog the courts with these things period..I don't care what they say...it doesn't work...didn't before and won't now...people didn't stop drinking during prohibition...not even elected officials..
 
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There are all sorts of laws that are overlooked. Take "blue" laws for example, laws that were enacted to make sure people attend church. In Winona Lake, Wisconsin if you eat ice cream on a sunday you commit a crime. That's just one of hundreds.

If you are driving 61 mph in a 60 mph zone I guess you should get a ticket? There are laws on the books that would make it illegal for my fiancee to orally pleasure me in some states. Picking and choosing is done all the time.
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You do know, the President is not charged with enforcing state or local laws. Federal Law only is my take of Article II, Section 3.
 
riverman said:
various sex acts are still illegal on the books...lawmakers look the other way when it comes to oral sex though
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Well I'm fearful of the law so I only kiss my fiancee and on Sundays I only touch her hand shyly. Don't want to end up getting shoved in jail cause I couldn't keep my hormones in check..... ahahahahhahhahaahhahahhahaha
 
MarAzul said:
It does not seem to be a pressing issue at the moment. But if you wish, I can go along with jailing Jackson for his gory seeking.
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Don't know which Jackson you mean or why he sought gore, but it's pretty clear that Michael Flynn violated the Logan Act, as did everyone who conspired with him to do so.

barfo
 
Silly stuff, I must admit. It might be real difficult to enforce this one;

"49 U.S.C. §46316(a) & 14 C.F.R. §105.7(a) make it a federal crime to skydive while drunk."

What is drunk?
 
MarAzul said:
Silly stuff, I must admit. It might be real difficult to enforce this one;

"49 U.S.C. §46316(a) & 14 C.F.R. §105.7(a) make it a federal crime to skydive while drunk."

What is drunk?
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I didn't realize all skydiving was illegal.

barfo
 
MarAzul said:
Silly stuff, I must admit. It might be real difficult to enforce this one;

"49 U.S.C. §46316(a) & 14 C.F.R. §105.7(a) make it a federal crime to skydive while drunk."

What is drunk?
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There's no name for that word in Ireland..unless it's, nodding out before sleep
 
barfo said:
Don't know which Jackson you mean or why he sought gore, but it's pretty clear that Michael Flynn violated the Logan Act, as did everyone who conspired with him to do so.

barfo
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If you say so barf. I don't know this though.
 
Further said:
http://www.freedomworks.org/content/19-ridiculous-federal-criminal-laws-and-regulations

theres som federal ones for you
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I looked one up (the one about injuring lamps). It actually makes perfect sense if you read it in context.

§8103. Application of District of Columbia laws to public buildings and grounds
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(a) Application of Laws.—Laws and regulations of the District of Columbia for the protection of public or private property and the preservation of peace and order are extended to all public buildings and public grounds belonging to the Federal Government in the District of Columbia.

(b) Penalties.—A person shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than six months, or both if the person—

(1) is guilty of disorderly and unlawful conduct in or about those public buildings or public grounds;

(2) willfully injures the buildings or shrubs;

(3) pull downs, impairs, or otherwise injures any fence, wall, or other enclosure;

(4) injures any sink, culvert, pipe, hydrant, cistern, lamp, or bridge; or

(5) removes any stone, gravel, sand, or other property of the Government, or any other part of the public grounds or lots belonging to the Government in the District of Columbia.
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So yeah, there's a law against 'injuring lamps', ha ha. But basically it means don't vandalize government property.

I imagine many of the others in the list are the same sort of thing.

barfo
 
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I like to have a puff from time to time but that’s not what really bugs me.

This society is expensive and we don’t need to pay our taxes to enforce something with few negatives. The police, the courts and jail are all very expensive. Then there’s the issue that regardless off money sending people to jail for something that doesn’t harm society will eventually actually harm society. If Job Blow was an otherwise normal 19year old but gets caught with a pound of weed he was selling to his friends then he ends up in jail, lives among real dangerous criminals, learns how to be a bad ass which is so respected in the clank. Then upon exiting the prison system X years later they are stigmatized and will have a very tough time in life. But they did learn how to be a criminal while in the big house.

Fuck that, it’s a burden on society to enforce these outdated and overly punitive laws.
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Perfectly said.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I've said before why I hate weed. It saddens me to see the lines of deplorables waiting when they open a new dispensary.
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Who cares? Alcohol is much more dangerous to society, and cigarettes are much more dangerous to the person using them.

I don't understand why, but it's their choice to do whay they want with their personal lives as long as they aren't hurting anyone. "Freedom" is a core value of this country.

Either way, people are still gonna smoke. So either we create tax income with legalization, or we use tax money to lock up harmless people for their personal, harmless decisions.

It's non-sensical to argue against legalization.

Those who do favor controlling others personal lives based on their own personal opinions on something. That's one of my biggest pet peeves.
 
MarAzul said:
Tit for tat discussions about alcohol and weed is irrelevant.

Having society give the ok and green light to using another mind numbing drug by millions of young people is not a brilliant move. It is just another pit of many placed in life's road, to trap the unwary.
While it is tauted to help a few, it will hinder or harm more, perhaps many more. While the only benefit maybe the revenue to support a few more bureaucrats.
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Should cigarrettes be illegal?

Making weed illegal won't stop people from smoking it. The government doesn't even have a huge interest in stopping dealers, as they're more interested in finding buyers and imprisoning them for it.

The federal punishment for smoking weed would be more harmful than the weed itself. How many people have you been around that smoke weed? I've been around many who smoke daily, and their mind is the opposite of "numb", and weed isn't a pitfall at all.

Most "harmful" effects from smoking marijuana are a myth.
 
BonesJones said:
Who cares? Alcohol is much more dangerous to society, and cigarettes are much more dangerous to the person using them.

I don't understand why, but it's their choice to do whay they want with their personal lives as long as they aren't hurting anyone. "Freedom" is a core value of this country.

Either way, people are still gonna smoke. So either we create tax income with legalization, or we use tax money to lock up harmless people for their personal, harmless decisions.

It's non-sensical to argue against legalization.

Those who do favor controlling others personal lives based on their own personal opinions on something. That's one of my biggest pet peeves.
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I ain't stopping anyone. I laughed because some have started huge booming illegal businesses and they're scared shitless. Makes me laugh. Sorry. People can fuck running blenders for all I care.

What you're seeing is the way this country works. We could make all drugs legal any time we wanted. We haven't.
 
BonesJones said:
Should cigarrettes be illegal?

Making weed illegal won't stop people from smoking it. The government doesn't even have a huge interest in stopping dealers, as they're more interested in finding buyers and imprisoning them for it.

The federal punishment for smoking weed would be more harmful than the weed itself. How many people have you been around that smoke weed? I've been around many who smoke daily, and their mind is the opposite of "numb", and weed isn't a pitfall at all.

Most "harmful" effects from smoking marijuana are a myth.
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With all of the other things that are illegal, cigarettes certainly should be. There's too much money involved.

It should be just like weed should be, you grow your own and use it in private and nobody should bother you.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I've said before why I hate weed. It saddens me to see the lines of deplorables waiting when they open a new dispensary.

I'm all for changing federal law to make it a states rights issue. Same with just about anything. People can vote with moving trucks.
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What do you think about alcohol?
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Don't get me started on drunks. Without my father clouding my judgement I'd probably outlaw bars first. Alcohol at home.... that's different.
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Ok nevermind, I see you’re ok with alcohol at home lol.

So what’s wrong with weed at home?
 
MarAzul said:
Tit for tat discussions about alcohol and weed is irrelevant.

Having society give the ok and green light to using another mind numbing drug by millions of young people is not a brilliant move. It is just another pit of many placed in life's road, to trap the unwary.
While it is tauted to help a few, it will hinder or harm more, perhaps many more. While the only benefit maybe the revenue to support a few more bureaucrats.
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I want whatever you’re smoking.
 
This is why we have the 2nd Amendment.
 
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