Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 players..

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

You can refer me anywhere you'd like. But understand if I want a pair of heels I'm not going to the Goodwill, so I will politely provide my own referrals because I'm not a poor-man's anything, and neither is LA.

As for where you stand? You can remain standing in that pile of pig manure for all I care. I'd just don't want to see it. But since I have to, I'm going to keep pointing it out: "You're standing in pig shit!"

Would you care to explain why you think Durant doesn't deserve the MVP more than LMA, or are you just going to cherry pick facts? LMA played an awesome game tonight. Maybe the best of his career. I loved it, and have been hoping to see it since Feb 2011. That doesn't disguise the fact that it was against a non-playoff team, with a (Nic partially excluded) a completely healthy team. KD just put up 46 on us, in a win against a "Contender", missing his buddy the All-Star Westbrook---and that wasn't even his best game this week. KD is averaging 31 a game on 19 shots. I mean, you like the counting stats, and I think they don't tell very much of the story, but even you can see that KD's counting stats are higher than LMA's, right? On a team with a better record and more injuries, right? Do you just not care about other players playing MVP-level basketball? Or am I still Copernicus daring to say that the sun doesn't revolve around the earth?

 

[PapaG]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

Would you care to explain why you think Durant doesn't deserve the MVP more than LMA, or are you just going to cherry pick facts?

I'd like to know if LMA shoots jump shots. Can you show me those stats?

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

LMA deserves to be in the conversation, but it's like being the 4th guy invited to the Heisman.

So, better than being the last guy invited to a Blazer play-off party? You'll have to tell us what that's like. I already have my invite.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

already did...which ones were you confused about?

 

[PapaG]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

already did...which ones were you confused about?

Where did BlazerFanatic say that LMA deserved MVP over Durant?

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

Or am I still Copernicus daring to say that the sun doesn't revolve around the earth?

More like Colonel Jessup in a court room. You can't handle the truth.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

So, better than being the last guy invited to a Blazer play-off party? You'll have to tell us what that's like. I already have my invite.

Congratulations. I hope you have better luck keeping your seats in the playoffs than many in my section did.

Any comment about KD?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

I'm the type of person who feels more secure with my opinions if everyone doesn't agree with me.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

More like Colonel Jessup in a court room. You can't handle the truth.

Uh, Colonel Jessup was the one who said Tom Cruise couldn't handle the truth. So you could unintentionally be correct.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

Where did BlazerFanatic say that LMA deserved MVP over Durant?

I'm waiting too, but definitely not holding my breath. lol

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

Uh, Colonel Jessup was the one who said Tom Cruise couldn't handle the truth.

Of course. And who REALLY couldn't handle the truth? They guy shouting about how right he thought he was... maybe? It's called irony. You missed the point... how ironic.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

I'm waiting too, but definitely not holding my breath. lol

Post 15.

If you didn't hear me at the game, I'll repeat what I chanted there: MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP...

Can you hear me now?

Unless you meant "2nd- or 3rd- place MVP" and I misunderstood. In that case, we agree.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

Of course. And who REALLY couldn't handle the truth? They guy shouting about how right he thought he was... maybe? It's called irony. You missed the point... how ironic.

I didn't miss the point. I caught you in another mistake.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

I'm the type of person who feels more secure with my opinions if everyone doesn't agree with me.

The path to total enlightenment.

By SlyPokerDog

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

I didn't miss the point. I caught you in another mistake.

What a relief. Now we're getting somewhere. You've identified the problem.

You did miss the point. Enjoy your straight jacket Colonel. lol

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

So, back to basketball, Durant? Or were you actually meaning "2nd- or 3rd" when you shouted MVP?

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

Post 15.

Unless you meant "2nd- or 3rd- place MVP" and I misunderstood. In that case, we agree.

We don't agree. "LA probably isn't even the MVP of this team...". Do you read what you type? Or just shout down people in general?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

The path to total enlightenment.

By SlyPokerDog

What is the sound of one tail wagging?

 

[PapaG]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

I'm waiting too, but definitely not holding my breath. lol

LOL

For posters like BfromWA, it's much easier to win arguments when you construct them in your own head!

 

[PapaG]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

Post 15.

Unless you meant "2nd- or 3rd- place MVP" and I misunderstood. In that case, we agree.

Holy crap! Have you ever been to an NBA game? Crowds tend to chant "MVP MVP MVP" at their best player on very good teams at the end of games. I have a feeling you'd be the guy saying "GUIZE, DURANT IS THE MORE OBVIOUS CANDIDATE, AND DID YOU KNOW ALDRIDGE SHOOTS JUMPS SHOTS??? STOP CHANTING MVP IT'S DURANT AND JUMPSHOTSJUMPSHOTSJUMPSHOTS!!!"

I'd pour out the flat part of my beer on that guy, and then, of course, would see it posted on the internet on how terrible Blazer fans are, and how they're the worst in the league.

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

I'm not even sure why BrianfromWA is a moderator at this point. Almost every post he has relates to other posters, or is directed at how crappy LMA is, yet we underlings can't see it. An honorable man would resign his moderator position, but we all know that doesn't happen here. Or, it does, and then the mods who give up their status end up begging to get it back.

Dude, you're like my mother in law. You just make up your own reality and then keep repeating it until it becomes true in your mind.

I never begged to be a mod. Ever. Not once. Stop pretending like I did.

And here you are arguing with Brian over LA. So can I start bashing on you every time Dame does something good? If he makes the All-Star game, can I remind you how you wouldn't shut up about his defense? I'm going to go ahead and bookmark that thread for later. Should be a tasty treat to serve up every time Lillard scores 25+ points.

You are honestly the most vindictive poster in the history of this forum. Nobody holds grudges like you, and nobody drags up old shit like you do. You are the king of personal attacks.

 

[PapaG]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

Dude, you're like my mother in law. You just make up your own reality and then keep repeating it until it becomes true in your mind.

I never begged to be a mod. Ever. Not once. Stop pretending like I did.

And here you are arguing with Brian over LA. So can I start bashing on you every time Dame does something good? If he makes the All-Star game, can I remind you how you wouldn't shut up about his defense? I'm going to go ahead and bookmark that thread for later. Should be a tasty treat to serve up every time Lillard scores 25+ points.

You are honestly the most vindictive poster in the history of this forum. Nobody holds grudges like you, and nobody drags up old shit like you do. You are the king of personal attacks.

Where is my grudge against BrianfromWA? We all know you quit being a mod, and then asked to become one again, and accepted it.

Where is that part of your mod history not accurate?

 

[PapaG]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

NateBishop3 quit being a moderator a few years ago. After he quit being a mod, he then became a moderator again.

Where am I wrong in this, Nate?

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

I read what I type, and I'm not shouting at all.

Post 3 I said he's in the conversation, but not the MVP.

Last week I showed pretty conclusively that, aside from 3 shots per game more he was taking, that he hadn't significantly changed his efficiency. I posted that offensive efficiency had a very strong correlation to team wins. I showed that his PPG were up because he was taking more shots, and they were for the most part more jumpers. Jumpers that he hit at a 43-44% rate. Which doesn't increase offensive efficiency when you get (at the best range) .94 points every time you take that shot. (Edit: without pulling up eblazer's stats, I think it was 42% in the 10-15', 47% in the 16-19', and 41% in the 20-24', for a 43% overall and a 47% on his "best"). It pulls his overall efficiency down (and since he shoots by far the most on the team) and the team's (again, correlating to wins). His FG% and EFG% were the lowest of his career. Increases in offensive efficiency were by Damian (getting 4 more ppg on the same amount of shots as last year), Wes (shooting the highest % of his career), Nic being much more aggressive passing and rebounding (while shooting the 2nd-best of his career in eFG), and Lopez taking over for Hickson (which is a class in itself on why counting stats should be taken with a grain of salt).

Since that thread, he has played 4 games (2-2 against OKC, HOU, DAL and DEN) and had 3 of the 6 best games he's had (based on GmSc) all year. He's taken over 50% of his shots in the paint. He's averaging 10FTs/g instead of 5. He's up to 5 ORB/g, and his TRB up to 15/g. He's averaging 32.5ppg (higher than his 24.7 the year), a level that is better than Durant or LBJ's full-season marks.

7-14 J, 8-15 in paint, 14-17 FT v.DEN(win) 12 TRB
5-14 J, 7-12 in paint, 5-8 FT @OKC (loss) 16 TRB
2-11 J, 9-15 in paint, 5-6FT @HOU (loss) 20 TRB
3-9 J, 8-9 in paint 8-9FT @DAL (win) 12 TRB

Over this (I fully admit) great stretch of 4 games from LMA, he's taken 99 shots at a 50% fg%. 48 Jumpers outside the paint, 51 in the paint. On his jumpers he's shooting 17-48, which is 34%. On his shots in the paint, he's shooting 32-51, or 64%. But the increase in paint shots has also led to an increase in FTA and FT (made). From shooting 5 per game for most of the last 3 years, he shot 10 FT/g at 80%, getting an extra 4ppg just from FT. He's also upped his ORBs to 5/g. Most importantly (in my particular thinking) is that he's getting 1.3 points per shot, which is an elite efficiency and one that helps the team, especially when a teammate is having a poor game). If he's splitting his shots 50/50 and drawing fouls, he can keep taking double the shots of anyone else on the team. If he were to shoot 25x/game at the efficiencies that he was when BF originally posted the L_Train thread,

In short, since he's started playing inside the paint (coincidentally coinciding with our long L-Train thread) he's been playing at a level that, if sustained, would be one of the great seasons of the past couple of decades. When he is shooting the majority of his shots as jumpers, efficiency (both personal and team) fall, which correlates to stronger chance for losses.

 

[PapaG]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

So can I start bashing on you every time Dame does something good? If he makes the All-Star game, can I remind you how you wouldn't shut up about his defense?

I love Dame! I said it repeatedly in my thread where I called out his defense. I hope tonight is a wake-up call for him, because he has MVP-level talent.

What the fuck is your point?

 

[PapaG]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

I read what I type, and I'm not shouting at all.

Post 3 I said he's in the conversation, but not the MVP.

Last week I showed pretty conclusively that, aside from 3 shots per game more he was taking, that he hadn't significantly changed his efficiency. I posted that offensive efficiency had a very strong correlation to team wins. I showed that his PPG were up because he was taking more shots, and they were for the most part more jumpers. Jumpers that he hit at a 43-44% rate. Which doesn't increase offensive efficiency when you get .93 points every time you take that shot. It pulls his overall efficiency down (and since he shoots by far the most on the team) and the team's (again, correlating to wins). His FG% and EFG% were the lowest of his career. Increases in offensive efficiency were by Damian (getting 4 more ppg on the same amount of shots as last year), Wes (shooting the highest % of his career), Nic being much more aggressive passing and rebounding (while shooting the 2nd-best of his career in eFG), and Lopez taking over for Hickson (which is a class in itself on why counting stats should be taken with a grain of salt).

Since that thread, he has played 4 games (2-2 against OKC, HOU, DAL and DEN) and had 3 of the 6 best games he's had (based on GmSc) all year. He's taken over 50% of his shots in the paint. He's averaging 10FTs/g instead of 5. He's up to 5 ORB/g, and his TRB up to 15/g. He's averaging 32.5ppg (higher than his 24.7 the year), a level that is better than Durant or LBJ's full-season marks.

7-14 J, 8-15 in paint, 14-17 FT v.DEN(win) 12 TRB
5-14 J, 7-12 in paint, 5-8 FT @OKC (loss) 16 TRB
2-11 J, 9-15 in paint, 5-6FT @HOU (loss) 20 TRB
3-9 J, 8-9 in paint 8-9FT @DAL (win) 12 TRB

Over this (I fully admit) great stretch of 4 games from LMA, he's taken 99 shots at a 50% fg%. 48 Jumpers outside the paint, 51 in the paint. On his jumpers he's shooting 17-48, which is 34%. On his shots in the paint, he's shooting 32-51, or 64%. But the increase in paint shots has also led to an increase in FTA and FT (made). From shooting 5 per game for most of the last 3 years, he shot 10 FT/g at 80%, getting an extra 4ppg just from FT. He's also upped his ORBs to 5/g. Most importantly (in my particular thinking) is that he's getting 1.3 points per shot, which is an elite efficiency and one that helps the team, especially when a teammate is having a poor game). If he's splitting his shots 50/50 and drawing fouls, he can keep taking double the shots of anyone else on the team. If he were to shoot 25x/game at the efficiencies that he was when BF originally posted the L_Train thread,

In short, since he's started playing inside the paint (coincidentally coinciding with our long L-Train thread) he's been playing at a level that, if sustained, would be one of the great seasons of the past couple of decades. When he is shooting the majority of his shots as jumpers, efficiency (both personal and team) fall, which correlates to stronger chance for losses.

tl;dr

I'm going to guess it's critical of LMA, though, and that LMA shoots jump shots.

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

Where is my grudge against BrianfromWA? We all know you quit being a mod, and then asked to become one again, and accepted it.

Where is that part of your mod history not accurate?

I didn't ask. Denny asked if I wanted to be a mod again and I accepted.

I quit. Denny asked if I wanted to return. I did. The end.

You are the only person who has said that I begged to return, and you've brought it up at least 100 times. And to say you don't have a grudge against Brian is laughable. You bring up last summer almost every day, and his thread about LA's jump shooting on a regular basis. Just let it go. It's his opinion, he's entitled to his opinion, he backs his opinions up with facts and that's how people SHOULD debate on this forum. You guys take it so personally when someone "bashes" on a player that you like/respect. It's a game. We are here to talk about that game. Let the man have an opinion for fucks sake.

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

I love Dame! I said it repeatedly in my thread where I called out his defense. I hope tonight is a wake-up call for him, because he has MVP-level talent.

What the fuck is your point?

OH! So if Brian had started his threads with "I love Dame. He's a great player. Now here is something that he sucks at..." that would have been fine?

Also.... do you really need to start a new post to address different points in the same post?

 

[PapaG]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

I didn't ask. Denny asked if I wanted to be a mod again and I accepted.

I quit. Denny asked if I wanted to return. I did. The end.

You are the only person who has said that I begged to return, and you've brought it up at least 100 times. And to say you don't have a grudge against Brian is laughable. You bring up last summer almost every day, and his thread about LA's jump shooting on a regular basis. Just let it go. It's his opinion, he's entitled to his opinion, he backs his opinions up with facts and that's how people SHOULD debate on this forum. You guys take it so personally when someone "bashes" on a player that you like/respect. It's a game. We are here to talk about that game. Let the man have an opinion for fucks sake.

When the opinion is worthy of ridicule, it's usually OK to ridicule that poster. Unless they're a mod, apparently. MIXUM was banned for much less than what BfromWA posts these days.

 

[PapaG]

Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

OH! So if Brian had started his threads with "I love Dame. He's a great player. Now here is something that he sucks at..." that would have been fine?

Also.... do you really need to start a new post to address different points in the same post?

Can't you take this to PM with me?